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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. Qatmaster

    Qatmaster Active Member

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    Paka, got a diff qu for you. What's the big deal about the MFLB? It seems like such a "pipe"like critter, and yet it gets ongoing raves from all kinds of ppl who consider it in the same league with the volcano, for what the mflb does. what the hell does it do so well to get such raves and ongoing reviews in the face of far more techie devices? It's got a whole forum thread of its own! If I owned one, I would read up on it, but I don't. I'm just curious why it is such a perennial fave. What IS its magic?
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  2. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    I've been using the mflb for a week now.

    What started as me borrowing my friends mflb quickly turned into me ordering my own and using it as my primary piece.

    I bought a pax to compare, before I ordered my own mflb. I sold the pax on eBay as I'm way more interested in usa made life time warranty and speed and size and simplicity. Had to clean that pax so often and load so much just wasnt worth it.

    I don't have a grinder as I've been very successful with a pill bottle and a nickel.

    So easy and simple (just like the mflb), if you don't want to splurge on the fine grinder just use a clean pill bottle add herb and one nickel then shake vigorously for twenty seconds and wa la, perfect grind for the lb on a poor man's budget.

    So impressed with this I'm considering a power adapter and concentrate tray.

    Hope this helps
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  3. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    I gotta pick up tha pa and ct's asap!
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  4. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Are the ct's good for kief?

    Does anyone do kief by itself in the mflb

    I opted for extra batteries before the pa. I can't force myself to fork over all the dough for it
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  5. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    I have 8 batteries, but with tha ct's, ill want a PA. And i think kief is good on the solids tray. @Quetzalcoatl can correct me if need be
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  6. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    Lots of vapourizers have threads of their own. ;) I think you might be stretching it a bit when you say people put the LB in the same league with the Volcano, but I get your point. Perhaps the aspect of the MFLB that I admire most is the elegance and simplicity of its design, but that came after I bought one. I got it because I wanted a portable, the price was excellent, and it had the most remarkable warranty I've ever seen. I think those things appeal to a lot of people.

    The LB is small and stealthy, and does its job well if you learn how to use it. It's a power-on-demand device, meaning that it only heats when you are taking a hit. That's a huge plus for me. It has great flavour, although it isn't pure. The LB adds its own slightly woody taste to a hit, which I find pleasant. I can extract everything out of a load with the LB, and it doesn't need a large load so it helps stretch my stash.

    Some people see one or more of those points as detriments. If you need a quick, large hit, the LB probably isn't for you. Not everyone is willing to accept the minor flavour that the LB adds. There are those who cannot or can't be bothered to learn a good technique. On the other hand, every head shop I've visited in the past few years has told me that the LB is by far the best selling vapourizer, and they get few complaints. I don't know if I've answered your question, though. I think you probably need to try one for yourself.
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  7. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl i i i

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    I've had to put kief on the solids tray once because the kief would just melt like really good bubble hash, clear domes and everything. Otherwise yeah I just use kief in the trench.
  8. Anomaly

    Anomaly Member

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    I love my MFLB. So much so that I bought a backup also; turned out to be a great decision, since the screen on my first decided to peel off the rails. Warranty replacement in the mail! What an awesome company.

    Recently got the PA also, and I'm having some issues finding my ideal settings. I'm combusting every 3rd trench, and still haven't gone above 50% power. Could be my technique, could be my box is hot, could be the PA itself... any suggestions on how to nail down what it might be?


    EDIT: have another question. Often, a thin layer of my herb gets stuck to the screen, and refuses to dislodge without either a forceful knock against a stationary item (desk), or direct contact (stir rod). I don't like opening the cover or scraping the screen with a metal rod, so I've been knocking it against my desk. Could I be doing harm to the device?
    Or does my answer lay in the root cause, the stickiness. Is my herb sticking because it's still too wet?
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  9. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl i i i

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    Could be both plus dry herb. Don't be afraid to stay at the lower temps if they're working.
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  10. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    It doesn't matter whether the LB or the PA is hot, just keep turning the PA down until you're happy. It does sound as if one or both are running a bit hot. How does the LB behave when you use a battery?

    Don't scrape the screen with anything metal. I'd use the LB brush or, more often, knock it against the desk the way you're doing. It's not likely to do much harm. Drier herb is better but the stickiness is probably due to having a lot of trichomes, which of course is a Good Thing.
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  11. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Thanks for the tip!! Cleaned my rails and improved the boxes performance noticeably.
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  12. Joshh1

    Joshh1 Stickyy icky

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    Why do I get a almost resin like build up on my lid when using concentrates? I'm new to wax if that helps.
  13. sundaddy

    sundaddy Well-Known Member

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    You're not using wax in a standard box are you? Or do you mean the Maud Dib?
  14. Anomaly

    Anomaly Member

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    Thanks for the tips! With a glyph battery, I've still accidently combusted, but it's getting much rarer. I 'borrowed' a trench worth of crappy herb from a buddy to try the temp test from Vaporpedia, and the ABV wound up fully black after 2 minutes, so I believe that means my box is running quite hot (but it didn't combust).

    Also, hurrah for Good Things!
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  15. esrever

    esrever Herb: best aphrodisiac and stereo tweak on Earth

    Two Stem Questions:

    1) Does anyone know the precise diameter (od) of the MFLB glass stem ?
    I'm eyeballing it at 6 mm. Thinking about having a glass blower make a 4"
    long stem that could double as a drinking straw for things like margaritas.

    2) If you drank through a well used stem, could you get effects from the
    built up residue ? Would it work drinking anything, or only for hot liquids ?

    Thanks...
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  16. Joshh1

    Joshh1 Stickyy icky

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    Sorry I should have been more descriptive.

    I'm using crumble on the screened concentrate tray. I put my PA to around 80-100% then I use my water pipe with a whip to draw. I just seem to always get this nasty sticky mess on the bottom of my lid around the trench. When I switch back to herb I get a lot stuck to the lid. I cleaned it today with ISO and it comes off with a lot of scrubbing.
  17. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Man. I just vaped about half a trench and am sitting here stoned when I think "I just wanna smack all those 'I can't get high on the LB' people in the face with a shovel?

    Deep thoughts from the box.
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  18. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I agree completely. Mini shovels should be (created or) included with the MFLB for smacking faces and packing trenches :brow: @magicflight

    Sure, I'm using kief, but I just did four hits with my PA (40%) + WPW (never thought I would use it when I won it) and I know when I decide to continue I am asking for too much pleasure. Its crazy how I can feel higher from 4 hits from this in comparison to the 4 hits from my UD.

    My only gripe is that I feel my MFLB doesn't taste very great anymore, but I have had it for 3 years and don't see myself letting it go.
  19. poonman

    poonman Well-Known Member

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    It's from when your crumbles , bubble up and pops .
    Bursts of mini splashes hits your lid and resins remain .

    Ya , I use iso and a pair of tweezers to help scrape most of it off
    first , then the q-tip . It's stuck on there good .
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  20. Joshh1

    Joshh1 Stickyy icky

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    Thanks for the explanation! I'm going to try the tweezers and see how it works.
  21. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I had a digital volcano during my time as a caretaker and I have an entirely different sincere passion for the LB placing it in it's own league separate from the Volcano. Having used the lunch box for 2 weeks, I would have to say I like the lunchbox more for many of the reasons listed above.

    The LB is an elite pocket vaporizing machine, and when mastered, will produce massive vapor clouds larger than most other vaporizers both portable and desktop.

    Just my two cents.
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  22. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    Huh? While I can get the LB to produce some clouds, I would hardly call them massive by any stretch, at least when using batteries. I've never used it with the PA though.

    Do others concur with what meek here is saying? When he puts "massive vapor clouds" in the same sentence as "an elite pocket vaporizing machine", I'm assuming he's using it with batts. If that's the case, I don't know how that claim of "larger clouds than most other desktop vapes" could hold any water.
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  23. meek420

    meek420 Well-Known Member

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    Tiny sips over about 30 seconds seem to be the ticket to huge clouds.
  24. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    Yes. I can blow big clouds with the LB using batteries. As can others. I am pretty sure with the pa I could blow clouds comparable to my LSV. It does require much more effort than a desktop unit to reach Cloudom and as such if I am desiring clouds I usually reach for another unit. But it is possible.



    @Vitolo Used to have some nice cloud vids but they are all private or no longer exist in youtube. At least I couldn't find them. :)


    EDIT: ACTUALLY NO. I don't think the MFLB can blow clouds as big as the LSV even with the pa. I would say the Cloud, Sub, Herbalizer probably all produce bigger clouds as well.

    What it can do is produce clouds enough to get me high in less than 3 hits. That is still better than half the desktop units out there. All priced at at least twice the money. I guess that's good enough for me.
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  25. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    It's made in the US, therefore has SAE sized parts. The OD is 1/4 inch, not a metric size.

    OF

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