Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by Dogman, Apr 16, 2012.
no it came with the stickers and I took them off.
General consensus is everyone seems to be removing the stickers on this thing.
I had a session with it before the Opera today. I do like the device allot. I think it ranks up there with the PAX for me as one of my favorite portables.
The one thing that sometimes gets me with the INH004 is the conduction vapor. With the PAX it quits making conduction vapor about 30 seconds after you quit moving the device. With the INH004 it will keep producing some conduction vapor. I sometimes wait liek 45 seconds and I go to hit it. I end up getting a hot almost stale tasting hit. The conduction vapor had been sitting there to long.
To fix this I came up with a solution. If I go for an extended period of time without hitting it, I will blow through the air intake hole on the side for a moment. That blows out the stale hit inside the capsule. I figured that out tonight. It improved the session greatly. I also find having the little silicone extension to be important for my comfort. It really making things much smoother overall.
So you blow out the vapour SLiM? Hmmmm, does this happen with the Solo too? Are you finding the extension silicone helps cool it a bit more? And how so in comparison to the Pax? I'm happy that you are starting to feel some love for the INH, as my initial impressions were that you were all about the Pax. I suppose you are gravitating toward reviewing this one on your blog? Looking forward, and thanks for your feedback!
1.5 ml centrifuge capsules work amazingly well with the inhalater. These are the ones I'm using, they line up perfectly with the bowl and my bowls of herb have always been between 1 ml and 1.5 ml. Each of them is a preloaded bowl, and a container for abv once emptied.
EDIT:And the caps for the centrifuge tubes fit perfectly as lids for the mouthpiece/bowls
Not sure how you are using those, but I do see the benefits of using the caps on them for the polyimide capsules. Not sure why you would wanna fill the polypropylene and then transfer to the capsule? Maybe i'm misconstruing you here.
Jurassic, are you trying to join me in the state of confusion club?
sitting here in jury duty waiting for my number to be called im trying to decide between the INH004 and a pax.
someone earlier said that the INH has basically a 18650 cell... so how can this vape last so much longer than other devices running the same cell? IMO that is the only real negative to the TV lineup... as far as herb vaping goes. if i could get 5-6 loads out of 1 charge then it would be almost perfect. however having to bring multiple cells around with me sucks and then not being abl to share with others usually has me leaving my TV stuff at home. i love everything about it except the cell life.
INH seems to have this figured out. is it purely because of the conduction that the cell has to work less? whereas the convection of the TV stuff requires the cell to work harder for longer...?
im leaning torwards the INH over the pax as of now but havent quite decided. i like that the INH does not require a proprietary charging station... and that it charges with a mini usb cable. however the pax charges fully in about an hour where the INH takes about three hours... what to do...?
also can use it while charging. I have a pax on the way I don't know which I will like better, been in love with the inh004 lately, but hey also love my solo while I'm at it. I take them through their paces. One thing though.. I've personally never been without a charge in the inhalater, never had an experience yet where it dies in a session. I have a few chargers around the house and desk and car to make sure I'm never without juice. I do wish there was a battery level.. It's just become second nature to give it a charge every once an a while or just leave overnight.
yeah that is huge IMO. and not having to stir helps also.
i do wish though that the INH was made of better materials like the TV stuff. the TV construction and esthetics are top of it class.
It works while the usb cable is plugged in, but usb isn't enough to power a vape so it's losing charge while you have it turned on.
I see your point, but it's not like this unit made of regular old plastics, like the puffit or iolite. (just two plastic vapes at the top of my head) Even the derlin on the T1 scratches easily. The inh004 seems underneath the stupid sticker to be a scratch resistant very heat durable g10 resin. The same resin they use on the big benchmade knife handle in my pocket. Yes there should be more cnc aluminum, but by all means, g10, polymide, and ceramic are not cheap options.
also joe, would you only leave your unit charging for just the 8 mins for a session? No your going to be charging while using possibly, either way when you turn it off it goes back to charging if you have it plugged in. The unit if completely dead requires a good 30 min to pick back up on the charger but I find it a good trade. Never had an instance of the unit loosing charge on me.. (yet anything can happen not like these are pacemakers, they are vapes, need a recharge every once an awhile)
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That's all true but it's basically the same as taking a unit off the charger, using it, then putting it back. The inh just lets you leave the cable attached if you want to do that.
I like the compatability of usb but I wish it had the option of running off the high current 1A or 2A usb chargers, like for the ipad. As it is, however long it takes to bring back from fully dead, a higher current charger like the Pax would do it in less than half the time.
But like you said, they are both very efficient and 90% of the time you don't notice because the device just works, 2012 is a great year for the vaporist!
Really its not the same; because your mitigating the draw from the battery with the charging current going in, so really only a partial amount of electricity is used each session comparitively. As well I think I prefer the ubiquity of USB over needing a special charging dock.
And actually, the high current charger for my Playbook can get this thing charged in no time. This doesn't have the same issue as the puffit does with being forced down to the lower USB protocol power levels. I'd say it charges in about 2 and a half hours charge time instead of the usual 6 or so.
Sorry, The tops of the containers line up perfectly with the inh004's bowl, which makes it easy to empty/fill the bowl without any effort- they also happen to have the same internal volume as the bowl (taking pictures if that's somehow not clear).
They're much sturdier than capped bowls, disposable (at less than a cent each about 3 cents each), and useful for keeping things like tinctures in in addition to their usefulness with the inhalater.
Transferring herbs: (note- misleading camera angle- the camera was closer to the mouthpiece- the centrifuge tube actually has slightly more internal volume than the herb chamber)
And also: the thermovape water pipe adapter fits perfectly if you don't mind cutting down one of your hoses.
EDIT: added pics, corrected faulty math.
EDIT#2: am I supposed to make the pictures collapsible? I can't find a spoiler-type option
Ok I had a scare this morning and I'm not sure what to think. When I turned on my Inhalater I almost immediately noticed a "crackling" sound coming from inside of it. This is the first time I've heard it so it made me very nervous.
I set the unit down and grabbed my LED flashlight and discovered off gassing from my unit. The inside of it is clean and so far I haven't been able to tell where it's coming from, but now I'm scared to use the device at all.
Can someone please check their Inhalater for off gassing? A bright flashlight is necessary.
Pics for proof:
Interesting, I always checked my unit for off gasing, never once had a crackle or unwanted vapor are you sure there's not a bit of abv inside somewhere? I'd get in touch with your retailer
I'm sure there's no ABV in it because I've always used a small screen in the end of my capsules since the device was new. This prevents any plant material falling out of capsule.
Just an update... I've run the device on full heat for about an hour this morning and it is still off gassing. I think the amount of gassing has actually increased as I've let it run. There has not been any more crackling other than when I first turned it on today.
I'll contact the retailer later today.
Actually, dude, I've had this happen to me to, and it is ABV. I use two screens in mine because particulate still falling through. Did you check it for off gassing when you first got it? That's usually the first thing I do with a new vape and I didn't notice anything when I did it.
I did not check it when I first got it. I also never experienced the "crackling" sound until this morning. I had probably vaped 20 capsules through it before today.
The inside of it looks exactly like it did when it was brand new. Nothing has been getting down to the bottom screen, which looks new. The polyimide lining the heating chamber looks clean and new. I don't know what else to say other than if it was a small amount of ABV invisible powder or something, I would expect it to burn off in a short amount of time... I've run it at full heat for about 2 hours now and it's still off-gassing like crazy.
I did test mine before I used it. I did not have any crackling or vapor production. You can't trust the off gassing test results if you have used the device. It will still have some essential oils and such on the device from previous use. Most likely the vapor you are seeing if from the oils in the plant material.
Not to get off the off gassing but can you show me a pic of how to put the extra screen in? Also I know a lot of you make your own extensions using tubing. On one of the threads they said one of the big stores like HD or Lowes but then the tube wouldn't be food grade. Where would you get a piece of tubing that is safe so the vape has more time to cool? Does it really matter since it isn't that hot by the time it gets to the secondary tube?
I hope that off gassing is just ABV. The crackling is strange as well. I think someone mentioned it earlier in the thread but I don't remember.
Definitely does NOT sound like just ABV to me....unless it's magical ABV that never stops producing vapor. The guys above are correct of course that testing before use is the best way .... but not the only way if you've been smart and clean with your device. Hopefully this thing isn't another Davinci
Wouldn't the oils burn off if the device was left on for extended periods of time? Can someone else check their used Inhalater and see if it's now producing gasses too? At least then I could have an easier time believing it's just "essential oils" burning off.
I would be less concerned if the crackling had never happened. It was loud enough that I noticed it immediately when I turned it on today. I also just fired it up again after it had fully cooled and I heard the crackling again although this time it was quieter and didn't last as long(maybe 5 to 8 seconds).
I guess I'm still nervous about the Polyimide in relation to our health. Combine that with stange sounds and visible off gassing and now I'm freaking out a bit.
No not all of it, not necessarily. You are burning it off through conduction which takes longer. Some of the oil will also flow down past the screen and takes longer to cook off because it will be further away from the heating element.
If I do not clean mine and turn it on it will produce gas like that.. it smells and tastes like ABV though. If I clean mine out it produces less gas. When i first got it did not produce any visible vapor when I tested it. Which leads me to believe it comes from the oils in the herb.
I am not as concerned about the polyamide. After reading the material safety sheet on polyamide I feel like it is not being used in a dangerous way.
I agree; it is ABV unless another foreign material got into the device by accident. I'd remove the screen and smack it upside down a few times to get anything that could be in there out. The rattle (which is what I'm thinking you mean by crackle) was addressed early on in the thread by Taylor; he said that the rattle came from the lug on the potentiometer at the bottom. My unit does it to by there isn't really any issues from it; and it only makes the sound if it is shaken very purposely up and down at the right angle so that might explain why you just noticed it now.
If this was going to be "another davinci" I think we would have run into the issues far before now and with more than one vaporist. In my opinion the Inhalater has already proved itself as being a far cut above that unit.
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