TinyMight / TM 2

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can’t help but wonder—what’s going wrong with mine, or what am I doing wrong?

Yeah there are a lot of variables, but it definitely doesn't sound like it is working right, whether a user error or small problem that you can fix yourself, or something that needs to be sent back in... Good luck
 

Mukmuk

TM2 Rookie
Thank you all for your comments and for highlighting some potential issues.

Just to clarify: I like this device and genuinely want to use it. I’ve had experience with other vaporizers before, such as the XMax Pro V3 and the Äris Ultra for weed, so I’m not new to vaporizers. Additionally, I’ve been using vapes like the Pico with self-winding tanks (e.g., SvoëMesto) for over 10 years for regular vaping :)

I wrote Tinymight about the issue in the meantime.

It sounds like there may be something wrong with your TM. It could be user error, but you might want to check in with Tinymight or your retailer. Where did you buy it?
I bought it from a highly trusted online shop from Berlin. I've checked all details that are known for the counterfeit devices from china. It looks all authentic. (+ on top of the battery lid, Multitool in two pieces. Box has no warranty logo ...) Regular price here in Germany 349€.

Link to the product in that shop

What batteries are you using? How old are they?
It's not normal they go down so fast, makes me think that maybe the batteries might be (part of) the problem?
Using underpowered batteries could be stressing the batteries out and causing the excess heat and stupidly short run time.
I’m using Molicel P28A batteries, which are relatively new, and I’ve tried several of them, including the original one that came with the device. Unfortunately, all of them last for only one bowl. These same batteries work perfectly in my regular 510 vapes with tanks for e-liquids (MTL/~10W), so I don’t think the batteries are the issue.

You can visibly observe the battery drain through the changing light colors. Just 2-3 draws (5-10 seconds each) result in a capacity loss of about 25%. At level 6, three bowls require three fully charged batteries. After each bowl, the battery indicator turns turquoise.

Did that change anything?
What level did you calibrate it at? (and what color was it calibrated at from factory?)
The factory calibration was set to Green (6). I’ve also tested levels 7 and 8, but all that did was shift the temperature range without solving the main issue. The device still gets very hot very quickly and doesn’t produce much vapor at all.

Additionally, I don’t feel the same effects as I do with other devices, even those with smaller bowl sizes.

I hope you can figure out what's going wrong 'cause this does not sound normal anyway.
I also don't think that this is normal.

TM1 owner here. With TM1, a gradual loss of power usually meant a bad connection. One fix was to open TM, and put a shim under the metal strip (the one going from the bottom of the device to connect to the top panel), and tighten really good. Obviously not the fix for TM2, but possibly a bad connection might be oxidizing somewhere.

@Mukmuk,
One fix for TM1 was adjusting the ring that holds the stem. Too loose, and there will be an air leak. Too tight, and you might crink the o-ring. I had to find that sweet spot in the middle. And if you’re using session mode, try on-demand. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the tipp. I will also have a look into that.

To help us please post as many details you can. Is every stem the same? Do you have any air leaks? How much material are you loading? Etc etc, post any details you can think of.
I’m using the original TM dosing capsules as well as the S&B capsules. However, I prefer the TM capsules because they fit into the stems, whereas the S&B capsules sit beneath the stems due to their larger diameter.

Two things I’ve noticed that seem really strange:

1. When using the device at level 6, it doesn’t get very hot on the outside.
2. When using it at level 7, it becomes extremely hot almost immediately.

Additionally, after the device vibrates a few seconds after powering on, it only provides cold air for several minutes. I have to wait some minutes before it starts warming up and producing slightly warm air, but there’s still no vapor and only a very faint taste. But then it gets really quick really hot.

Yeah there are a lot of variables, but it definitely doesn't sound like it is working right, whether a user error or small problem that you can fix yourself, or something that needs to be sent back in... Good luck
Thanks. I’m just trying to figure out what’s causing the issue—whether it’s something I’m doing, the device itself, or maybe a combination of both.

Here are some additional pictures of my TM2, 2024 Edition.
There is also the original battery shown. The green dot is just hiding the serial partly.


All photos at imgur
 
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highvaper

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I suspect your temp dial is broken - after using mine too much in beast mode what your describing with no heat on 6 and then too hot on 7 is similar to the symptoms mine showed. Eventually the dial just stopped working and you could rotate it past 0 or 10 and just keep turning round.

I had to send mine back to where i got it for a replacement.
 

Mukmuk

TM2 Rookie
I suspect your temp dial is broken - after using mine too much in beast mode what your describing with no heat on 6 and then too hot on 7 is similar to the symptoms mine showed. Eventually the dial just stopped working and you could rotate it past 0 or 10 and just keep turning round.

I had to send mine back to where i got it for a replacement.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

That could be a possible reason. I’ve noticed that the dial isn’t perfectly centered. Is there a way to check if the dial is functioning correctly? Would removing the bottom plate help? I've ordered a Torx TX 20 with long stem in the meantime.

 
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highvaper

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Yes my dial looked off center like that - can you move the dial bit about a little bit so its off center and touches the edge somewhere else?
 
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Mukmuk

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@Mukmuk, did you try using your TM2 packing directly the stem, not using a capsule ?
Not yet—maybe I should give that a try as well. Normally, I prefer using capsules because they help keep the device cleaner and reduce buildup.

So far, I’ve used capsules from both Tinymight and S&B, but I prefer the Tinymight ones. Both with closed lid. You can see that in the photos.
 
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Not yet—maybe I should give that a try as well. Normally, I prefer using capsules because they help keep the device cleaner and reduce buildup.

So far, I’ve used capsules from both Tinymight and S&B, but I prefer the Tinymight ones. Both with closed lid. You can see that in the photos.

I'd recommend WPA with hooks or u turn stems to keep the TM upside down and have more cooling and airflow, I don't really use the stock set up now or any capsules ever
 

JJ785

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I prefer no rim, with like this:
I guess he added spikes to hold and screen?

He has hooks and other cooling stems too... Also pricier Good Vibes Boro and Oregon Glass Blower, then some options on DHgate cheap too, many other aftermarket stems
 
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dzoinp

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My first guess would be that the stem is packed too tight. I know you said you tried different packing methods, but the fact that the device is getting hot to the touch really leads me to this conclusion. Just sprinkle it in there, no tamp. Good luck!
:nod:
@Mukmuk, did you try using your TM2 packing directly the stem, not using a capsule ?
:nod:

try the 3d cooling stem that comes with
 
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Photonic

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@Mukmuk You mentioned powering it on but not getting heat for a few minutes. What mode are you turning it on in? e.g., on demand (3 clicks with blinking LED) or session mode (2 clicks and hold the 3rd button press with solid LED)

Hope you get this issue sorted out soon. :tup:
 
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Mukmuk

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@Mukmuk You mentioned powering it on but not getting heat for a few minutes. What mode are you turning it on in? e.g., on demand (3 clicks with blinking LED) or session mode (2 clicks and hold the 3rd button press with solid LED)
Thanks!

I am using the session mode. For me it needs to much power to keep the button pressed for several seconds.

2 quick clicks
1 click + keep holding until the vibrations stop

try the 3d cooling stem that comes with
Tried both stems. The normal with the CU and the one with the glass balls.
 
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Pib

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I also use capsules and the Grav upline taster, I have no problems with them. Also my dial is not centered and everything works. So I'm starting to look in the direction of a faulty device. Session mode also runs most of the time on mine and the battery lasts 4 to 6 bowls. If all batteries give the error, the device is more likely to have problems.
 

dzoinp

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Thanks!

I am using the session mode. For me it needs to much power to keep the button pressed for several seconds.

2 quick clicks
1 click + keep holding until the vibrations stop
ok...
now i'm starting to understand... you're definitely not using the device as you should. It could be that black cloud on your avatar:rofl:

This is not a session vape. This mode is only for ease of use on bongs and similar things.
Takes a lot of power to keep the button pressed for several seconds?? :hmm:...:doh:It looks like you want to stick the whole button inside! It gives a slight click when pressed... it is with little force and only until it vibrates and during the hit! in my case never more than 5/10 sec
and you're probably putting too many greens and pressing them too hard...that's what I think
 

RustyOldNail

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ok...
now i'm starting to understand... you're definitely not using the device as you should. It could be that black cloud on your avatar:rofl:

This is not a session vape. This mode is only for ease of use on bongs and similar things.
Takes a lot of power to keep the button pressed for several seconds?? :hmm:...:doh:It looks like you want to stick the whole button inside! It gives a slight click when pressed... it is with little force and only until it vibrates and during the hit! in my case never more than 5/10 sec
and you're probably putting too many greens and pressing them too hard...that's what I think

Indeed, with no timed “auto-off” feature, the session mode will continue to heat and run the battery down. You have to remember to manually turn it OFF…..
Since the OP has good batteries, and is only getting a few bowls, it might be a faulty device, but first try using it in “on demand” mode.
 

666Honeybadger

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Thanks!

I am using the session mode. For me it needs to much power to keep the button pressed for several seconds.

2 quick clicks
1 click + keep holding until the vibrations stop


Tried both stems. The normal with the CU and the one with the glass balls.

More then 2 years in and never used mine in session mode so can't really judge how it behaves in that mode but the battery use sure sounds very strange to me, i use the same P28's and (when new) they last 4 or 5 bowls with multiple hits/bowl. I have a couple old P26's and these go down really fast but that is to be expected, yours shouldn't act like that...
And i've never used a capsule either tbh... :D
Sounds like we have very different ways of using it but that shouldn't be a problem really.

I agree with @dzoinp that it doesn't really require power to keep the button pushed down, i read before that some people seem to push it too hard, it just needs a gentle touch to keep it down for me but ymmv ofcourse.
Maybe it's not a "session vape" as said but it should still perform pretty good when used in session mode, it's just holding the button down for you basically no reason for it to malfunction like yours does...

My advice would be similar to that of the others: for me it starts to sound like there's an issue with your device but to be really sure i'd try it first in on demand mode without capsules to judge it's behaviour.
Hope you'll keep us informed 'cause i'm curious to know what the issue might be...
Good luck!
 

Photonic

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If holding the button is challenging, you can flip the device around so the button is facing the meat of your hand just below the thumb. Then gently squeeze your hand to depress.
 
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Seantagon

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I never used session mode until I sent my TM2 for repair on a seperate issue. The "improved" button is now harder to press and requires more force to engage. I can't do the bottom of thumb press as described above anymore. I'll still use on demand for native hits, but will use session on bigger hits with a WPA, then triple click to clear out heat and vapor.
 
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I used to use session mode most of the time when I used my TM on a water piece just so I was hands free, but even tho I usually shut it down shortly after hitting it I found I was using my battery quicker so I switched to on demand mode. I think I was getting about three sessions with it tho, not one. I have never used capsules and, frankly, never felt the need. Cleaning glass stems is a no sweat event for me and I've become very used to it as most of my favorite vapes have used them. At least my favorite electrics.

If after you use the stem direct without a capsule you still have the problems you are describing, I think it is going to be a warranty repair.
 
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GVB drop today:
Screenshot-20241220-105919.png
Some nice looking full color TM stems here, plus hooks and u hooks to use with WPAs...
 
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badbee

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@Mukmuk, the cells going dead is the most interesting part of this. The energy from that cell has to have been converted to heat, there is no other path for the energy to get out. If it was all turned into heat, why aren't you experiencing heat?

I'm wondering if you have a massive air leak somewhere. When you pull you are getting mixed air cooler than you want. The heat is just collecting in the unit and eventually escaping through the shell. Most units heat up in 10 to 16 seconds depending on ambient temps, there is no way it takes a TM that is at all functional several minutes to get to temperature. If the cells are going dead there must be heating happening somewhere.
 
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Pib

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You could also try with an empty stem first to see if you get enough heat when you draw.

I get a lot of vapor with the blue calibration on 1.5 at the dial.
 
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