TinyMight / TM 2

[dzoinp]

I just put two internal glasses on my TM2 and TM ph. The first one was broken and in the PH I already wanted to do it because it heated up the stem too much, to the point of not being able to comfortably use my Tistems and also only getting 3 hits/bowl... definitely more roast in PH (original)

Has anyone changed the heater glass yet? My TM2 has this glass cracked along its entire length... it looks like it's about to go for a walk to Finland. But it works fine... for now

 

[stonedBBer]

Is there a consensus on whose stems provide the most cooling . Gvb, high artisan, the vgoodiez stff, the stuff from tinymight?

 

[Shit Snacks]

I know the Purple Heart TM2 has some updates over the oak and hickory TM2s. Are those updates going to be carried over to the others? I really prefer the other woods, but would like the updated internals.

The original wood was oak, TM2 is american walnut, first time I've ever heard anyone refer to it as hickory lol but apparently that is still accurate! Anyway we still don't know:

One would believe the internal upgrade with the PH TM2 would be carried forward on all new units but I don’t think that has been officially confirmed. The biggest upgrade is zirconium glass around the heater and reinforced heater coil posts if I recall.

Time will tell!

Is there a consensus on whose stems provide the most cooling . Gvb, high artisan, the vgoodiez stff, the stuff from tinymight?

Not really, particularly because there are a wide variety of different stems made by each of these... I love good vibes, and stronger recommend the U-turn personally

 

[almost legal]

Just got my TM2 back from repair (broken button), took 1 week to get it back. Oh I missed it, had to survive with a whistling Evo or a beat up OG mighty.
Proper stoned now.

Where can you order a PH TM in the e.u. ? I can't find them even on the website.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Hello everyone Today I received my TinyMight 2 Purple Heart from Vgoodiez. Externally, the device is beautiful! But I immediately decided to check how the thermal control works in this device. The results upset me to such an extent that I started a YouTube channel specifically to upload videos with the results to it.

Tiny Might promises " Wide precision controlled temperature range". In the standard session mode, it should be 230 degrees, but the vaporizer accelerates to 300 degrees and even higher without holding the set temperature! ( The standard 230/250 degree Celsius mode is used.)

I am extremely puzzled and would like to receive comments from Tiny Might company. Spending $500 (with delivery to my country) and not getting the promised specifications is painful enough.

 

[The_M]

Hello everyone. Today I received my Tinymight 2 Purple Heart from Vgoodiez and immediately decided to check how the thermal control works in this device. The results upset me to such an extent that I started a YouTube channel specifically to upload videos with the results to it. Tiny Might promises "precise thermal control". In the standard session mode, it should be 230 degrees, but the vaporizer accelerates to 300 degrees and even higher without holding the set temperature! I am extremely puzzled and would like to receive comments from the Tinymight company. Spending $500 (with delivery to my country) and not getting the promised specifications is painful enough. Although outwardly the device is beautiful.

Temperature depend on number user select, regardless of the mode.

Obviously i did not watch the video, however 230C? (450F) Did u cranked up it to 10 ?

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Temperature depend on number user select, regardless of the mode.

I have a standard mode on "10"

Obviously i did not watch the video, however 230C? (450F) Did u cranked up it to 10 ?

Of course not! I did not calibrate the device. And use the standard mode! And in the video I say - I use the standard mode! It's 230/250 . Even if I tried to cheat and calibrate -where did 300 degrees come from? What kind of precise control can we talk about after that?..

 

[dukes00]

I have a standard mode on "10"


Of course not! I did not calibrate the device. And use the standard mode! And in the video I say - I use the standard mode! It's 230/250 . Even if I tried to cheat and calibrate -where did 300 degrees come from? What kind of precise control can we talk about after that?..

Have you tested other temperature levels? If yes, then do they also deliver more power than they should?

AFAIK the difference between 9 and 10 is like 3x times as much as the difference between say 5 vs 6, so maybe it's still worth it to recalibrate.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Have you tested other temperature levels? If yes, then do they also deliver more power than they should?

AFAIK the difference between 9 and 10 is like 3x times as much as the difference between say 5 vs 6, so maybe it's still worth it to recalibrate.

No, I haven't tried higher modes yet, but I will definitely do it. In the video, I check the mode out of the box and it's already 300 degrees...

 

[dukes00]

No, I haven't tried higher modes yet, but I will definitely do it. In the video, I check the mode out of the box and it's already 300 degrees...

The other temperature levels are lower actually, 10 is the highest

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

The other temperature levels are lower actually, 10 is the highest

I understand, but right now I have the "default 6" mode, 10 mark on the scale. In this case, the temperature should be 230 degrees in session mode

 

[Momor]

@avtpl the vaping temperatures exposed should be the temperature of the air reaching the herbs.
The fact that the herbes are a few millimeters above the heater and that you introduce cold air in the device that will go straight to the heater then the herbes further away, if you want that this stream of constant cold air (when inhaling) reaching almost instantly and staying at 230°C after the heater, the temperature of that heater have to be quite a lot higher than the temp of the air expected to pass through your herbs

Almost everyone here knows that the calibration between all TM's is different so the high precision they're talking about is more the very precise changes in temperature according to the temp dial

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

@avtpl the vaping temperatures exposed should be the temperature of the air reaching the herbs.
The fact that the herbes are a few millimeters above the heater and that you introduce cold air in the device that will go straight to the heater then the herbes further away, if you want that this stream of constant cold air (when inhaling) reaching almost instantly and staying at 230°C after the heater, the temperature of that heater have to be quite a lot higher than the temp of the air expected to pass through your herbs

Almost everyone here knows that the calibration between all TM's is different so the high precision they're talking about is more the very precise changes in temperature according to the temp dial

It is important - I am a fan of TM2 and even if it does not keep the exact temperature, I will continue to use this device, because there are no alternatives to it. but my love for the device is not a reason to justify its uncorrected operation.

My capsule is half filled with cotton wool, imitating an enclosed space with flowers and the temperature difference from the set temperature of 230 is 70 degrees! And most importantly, IT CONTINUES TO GROW! if I had continued to torture my lungs, the temperature would have reached higher values! I did it like that, it just didn't get in the frame!

Do you really think that 300 degrees in a CAPSULE, mind you, is it normal in a capsule? But the capsule also takes away some of the heat! I see in your reasoning an attempt to protect the manufacturer, but the truth is more important to me. And the truth is that the thermal control in the top-end PH device does not stop at the maximum declared temperature!

 

[dude_de]

Just got my TM2 back from repair (broken button), took 1 week to get it back. Oh I missed it, had to survive with a whistling Evo or a beat up OG mighty.
Proper stoned now.

Where can you order a PH TM in the e.u. ? I can't find them even on the website.

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[Photonic]

I looked quickly at the video. Some questions for clarification: 1) the TM2 dial is set the max value of '10', correct? 2) is the metal cooling housing used to hold the probe sticking out from the glass tube and making direct contact with the metal above the heater?

If the metal cooling unit is touching the top of the heater, then I would imagine you're conducting much more heat than what the ground flower material would likely see.

In the end, does the device allow you to control your temperature and vaping experience more precisely than others vapes? If the answer is yes, there isn't a problem. Most of us know vape temperature is a complex thing depending on the design.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

I calibrated the TM2 PH to the maximum mode (white, 260/280 degrees) and the temperature test showed 330 degrees шт session mode .

I stopped at this temperature because I was afraid to continue breathing this air! And the temperature could increase even more! Both calibration and tests are in this video!

And don't tell me about the difference due to the fact that the flowers need to be heated. A difference of 70 degrees from the stated temperature is not normal, but the fact that the temperature continues to rise and does not stop is the WORST THING!

And now I understand why, using TM2, if you drag it out for a long time, you get a taste of burning in the end... I didn't understand why, but now I understand - the device does NOT STOP at the stated temperature and continues to reach higher values. Then what does the manufacturer mean by "precise temperature control"?

I would be happy if someone besides me had done similar tests. Am I the first one who decided to do this?

 

[Photonic]

2) is the metal cooling housing used to hold the probe sticking out from the glass tube and making direct contact with the metal above the heater?

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Not sure why you are expecting more than you are getting TBH. The only way I could think a portable, convection vape could control vapor temperature would be using another sensor directly in the bowl or stem air path. Even then it may not be able to respond to changes in draw speed/length quickly enough to meet your expectations.

The way most TM2 users avoid heating the bowl in between hits is to use on demand mode.

Is there another conduction vape available than can precisely control temperature in a way that helps prove your point about the TM2?

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

I looked quickly at the video. Some questions for clarification: 1) the TM2 dial is set the max value of '10', correct? 2) is the metal cooling housing used to hold the probe sticking out from the glass tube and making direct contact with the metal above the heater?

If the metal cooling unit is touching the top of the heater, then I would imagine you're conducting much more heat than what the ground flower material would likely see.

In the end, does the device allow you to control your temperature and vaping experience more precisely than others vapes? If the answer is yes, there isn't a problem. Most of us know vape temperature is a complex thing depending on the design.

Thank you for the constructive questions.

1)Yes

2) The extreme point of the thermocouple is in the air of the capsule at the bottom of the capsule and does not touch the walls of the capsule. The upper part of the capsule is covered with cotton wool, creating an imitation of flowers. The capsule does not have a lid, therefore cotton wool is used. I.e., the lower half of the capsule is air and a thermocouple hangs in it

I am ready to double-check whether the thermocouple touches the bottom wall of the capsule. I am for the reliability of the results and thank you for this thought.

Regarding the comfort of vaping, an accurately maintained level of upper temperature is extremely important in order not to feel the taste of burnt at the end of a long puff. That's why I started taking measurements. And I started them not with TM2 PH, but with Dynavap and Xlux Roffu. There are my posts on this topic in the Roffu topic. I also measured the temperature in chinemight 2. To my disappointment, the TM2 PH showed the same level of temperature control -the temperature continues to rise above 300 degrees.

I repeat, someone check my tests, measure them yourself. It is not so difficult to build a measurement stand

 

[The_M]

It looks more like ‘karen’ post

- manufacturer as well as resellers provide 3 year warranty in case device work not up to spec
- temperature on the element is irrelevant, what is relevant - vaporization temperature when u draw

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

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Not sure why you are expecting more than you are getting TBH. The only way I could think a portable, convection vape could control vapor temperature would be using another sensor directly in the bowl or stem air path. Even then it may not be able to respond to changes in draw speed/length quickly enough to meet your expectations.

The way most TM2 users avoid heating the bowl in between hits is to use on demand mode.

Is there another conduction vape available than can precisely control temperature in a way that helps prove your point about the TM2?

Yes, I have. Look at the Xlux Roffu theme, I took measurements there with the same stand. Roffu claims 220 degrees and I have identified 230 degrees. 10 degrees is an acceptable difference for heating the chamber and the flowers. But not 70 degrees!! and not an endless increase in temperature. Do you think 330 degrees in session mode is normal? And the fact that the temperature continues to rise -how do you feel about it? And if you run the device in beast mode (I haven't tried it yet) - can I see 400 degrees there? And will they write to me that this is normal, too?

- manufacturer as well as resellers provide 3 year warranty in case device work not up to spec
- temperature on the element is irrelevant, what is relevant - vaporization temperature when u draw

My TM2 PH is new, never used. It's working fine. You can assemble the same measuring stand and I'm sure it will show the same results. I really wish that wasn't the case. Unfortunately, PH is not the only TM2 that I have tested... And I found exactly the same temperature control. That's why I raised this issue on the forum.

And the temperature of the element is important, because it shows what temperature the air in the chamber reaches. That's why it sometimes happens burnt.

 

[Photonic]

I don't use beast mode, but I guess I might if I wanted to use it with hash, etc. (?)

It could be your TM2 behaves incorrectly or by design, either way I don't believe you'll find a lot of owners here bothered by it. The reason is most are able to successfully dial in specific results when using the device. Admittedly, it is a more serious device and I wouldn't recommend it to new users or the "set and forget" crowd because of this (and the price).

I believe the "precision temperature control" is more about the user being able to extract how they want (e.g., hot and fast, or cool and slow) using the analog dial. It's important to note that although it has a session mode, I don't believe that is where is excels. For me, this is definitely an on-demand, convection vape at it's core.

In the end, sorry to hear your are disappointed after purchasing a relatively expensive product. You may be able to return it (?) or sell it for a small loss on the exchange. Sounds like the Roffu is a better fit for you?

 

[dzoinp]

I would be happy if someone besides me had done similar tests. Am I the first one who decided to do this?

I tested all the TM's I've ever had and have...conclusion:
They are all approved
That's enough for me

 

[Cheebsy]

Well done for having a go a scientific measurements, however I have a few comments...

Precise temperature control doesn't necessarily mean precise temperature measurement. It's marketing speak, albeit confusing, for being able to maintain a set heating level regardless (within normal parameters) of draw strength. Session mode doesn't allow for the device to cool off between hits like in demand does. It's been said many times this isn't really session mode, it's just pressing the button for you for what's most frequently a single bong hot with possible a second clean up hit, and I think this should be considered. Did you try the same test with on demand mode allowing for an exhale?

How accurate is your thermometer? You don't say what type of thermocouple you've used ( different ones for different purposes and different accuracies in different circumstances. You also don't show any calibration of your measuring equipment. When you switch it on it reads 30c and, although possible, I doubt your ambient temp is at that level as it's not a comfortable level for most people. If you're off by ~10 degrees at room temp that delta will probably be greater as measured temp increases.

I do think the load makes a difference to the observed temperature too, so a completely dry pack of cotton isn't really analoguous of a moist load of herb. The water prevents the temp from runaway, like what happens in a kettle before the water starts to boil.

 

[666Honeybadger]

1) the TM2 dial is set the max value of '10', correct?

1)Yes

And if you run the device in beast mode (I haven't tried it yet) - can I see 400 degrees there?

But 10 is beast mode, no?


Did you also do tests at lower temps in on demand mode?
Did it overshoot the (expected) temp on low temps in on demand mode too?
How about the stability then? Does the temp continue to rise on those settings?

I never took the temps (don't have the equipment to do this precisely) but i do know that all my TM's behave very consistent: there's some difference between different units but every device acts very stable and delivers very consistent results.
i know exactly what to expect when i put my PH on level 4. It does the same thing, every single time!!
It is very repeatable and acts/vapes very stable on every temp i tried it (i don't go beast mode tho, don't think i ever went over 8 tbh)
Never had it overheat because i took a long ass draw.

I never used session mode tho so can't speak for that but i expect it to be as stable as it is in on demand mode...

see in your reasoning an attempt to protect the manufacturer, but the truth is more important to me.

But why would anyone feel the need to protect the manufacturer? It's just a fact that TM's usually work very reliable and stable/consistent...

 

[Momor]

Do you think 330 degrees in session mode is normal?

Try it with herbs inside. Should be instant combustion at this temperature and I suspect it will not.
Did you try using it before complaining ?

And the fact that the temperature continues to rise -how do you feel about it?

If you use in on demande mode, as it is primarily meant to be used, the temp will not rise.
The TM itself heats up quite a bit in session mode, alors why it's preferable to use it in on demand mode.
Session is useful when you want to take one big draw without needing to hold the button (bong hits for exemple)

And the temperature of the element is important, because it shows what temperature the air in the chamber reaches

I don't think so. The temp can varie depending on your draw speed and ambiant air temperature.
And the temp of the herbs can vary depending of its humidity and type of pack.

That's why it sometimes happens burnt

I personally like vapes capable of burning the flower as I like to really ride the line to finish.
If you want to be sure it doesn't burn you can calibrate it down.

I believe the "precision temperature control" is more about the user being able to extract how they want (e.g., hot and fast, or cool and slow) using the analog dial. It's important to note that although it has a session mode, I don't believe that is where is excels. For me, this is definitely an on-demand, convection vape at it's core.

Agreed with this.

I do think the load makes a difference to the observed temperature too, so a completely dry pack of cotton isn't really analoguous of a moist load of herb. The water prevents the temp from runaway, like what happens in a kettle before the water starts to boil

Also with this.

there's some difference between different units but every device acts very stable and delivers very consistent results.

That's precision !

If you didn't try the vape with herbs yet, I think you'll forget about all this after your first sesh because it's a really great vaporizer that always performs