Discontinued The Grasshopper
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almost there
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Gave my hopper an iso dip on Wednesday because I couldn't take it's weak output anymore. I was very nervous about it but at worst I'll just have to get a 3rd RMA which by this point is a familiar routine. Filled a little pill vial with 99% iso and gave the hopper a dip for an hour. The oven came out super clean when everything dried and I waited a few hours and gave it a go. There was no improvement and I didn't expect any, that was the end of that, at least I know the iso bath won't short it.
Usually the hopper has no place in my rotation at home, too weak and the flavor isn't great but I just grabbed it on a whim yesterday. I start it off on T3 always to give it a warm up. Immediately I noticed a full heat wave vs the usual wispy warmth that comes out. Took 2 very satisfying pulls and dialed it to 5 and it was like the vapor floodgate finally opened. I could tell my hopper is now combustion capable which is fine by me. I keep it at T4 now and I can get the nice brown abv like if it came out of a vapcap or SB. I have no idea what happened when I gave the hopper an iso dip because it changed how it works completely. It now works better than it did when I bought it, does anyone have a similar experience? I know it's not in my head because I'm someone that pays very close attention to very minute details when it comes to my vapes.
Usually the hopper has no place in my rotation at home, too weak and the flavor isn't great but I just grabbed it on a whim yesterday. I start it off on T3 always to give it a warm up. Immediately I noticed a full heat wave vs the usual wispy warmth that comes out. Took 2 very satisfying pulls and dialed it to 5 and it was like the vapor floodgate finally opened. I could tell my hopper is now combustion capable which is fine by me. I keep it at T4 now and I can get the nice brown abv like if it came out of a vapcap or SB. I have no idea what happened when I gave the hopper an iso dip because it changed how it works completely. It now works better than it did when I bought it, does anyone have a similar experience? I know it's not in my head because I'm someone that pays very close attention to very minute details when it comes to my vapes.
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almost there
Well-Known Member
I filled the iso up to almost where the lights are. Left it soaking for an hour and then I let it air dry oven facing down. My hopper was always running cool so I don't know why it's running so hot now after the soak. Hope it keeps like this for a few weeks before it crashes. At T5 if I didn't click off as soon as I felt that heat it would have combusted for sure.
Could it just be that the HT Colored Ti's sell more slowly that the other units, thus the lower serial numbers?
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Icon13
Serial Vapist
A heating GH matches my car's interior.
The only really important part of this picture is that Pantera is on the radio.
What you describe as painless I would say is unbearable. I could not justify having a working unit for 3 weeks at a time and sending it in for 1 to 2 weeks for repair. Yes, the cost was low. But even if they got it back to me in one week, I would only have a working unit 75% of the time. And of that 75%, it probably doesn't even work optimally for that entire 75%. I don't see how anybody can get behind that.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
They make the HT model in very small batches and those batches sometimes have sold out - unavailable until more are produced. So I don't think they have unsold units languishing on the shelves for months. The HT and TI model serial numbers all begin with "GT......"
My Ti model is in the GT0041XX range, and it was made 11 months ago. There are HT units for sale now in that 4XXX range. I suppose it is possible that the production numbers are random, not sequentiial, but this has not our perception.
ktmstick
Well-Known Member
Did this very thing earlier in the week. Mine was a poor preformer also then eventually was going straight to blue. It was heating to a certain extent but not enough. I iso soaked up to the holes for a couple of hours then blew it out quite aggressively with a 125 psi airline. I'm attributing it to a build up of particles /dust on the temp sensor, so it thinks it's hotter than it actually is. I now have a case for mine. There is just such a small space between intake - heater - herb. The intake is also very open so easy for debris to get inside. Look at the intake on a S&B machine. You can barely see it!
disGRUNTled
Well-Known Member
Gorilla Glue #4 in the Grasshopper , listening to "Off The Top" freestyles on Youtube .Drinking this amazing juicy IPA from Heist Brewing Citraquench'l.
GreenHopper
20 going on 60
So did your cleaning procedure work?
Is the performance back to what you were expecting?
ktmstick
Well-Known Member
Yes, straight to blue no longer happening and performance is better than it was previously.
slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
It's not showing us that because the serial numbers have never been sequential.
It's almost possible, the serial numbers are not random or sequential, and by design they are not sequential, it's like Haydn symphonies, the number gives you "about" but not exactly the order, only Hopper laps and poppa Haydn know the exact order, but they do.
almost there
Well-Known Member
In your case I can understand how everything went back to normal but I just can't figure out why mine now reaches temperatures that it has never been capable of before. I really don't believe this is all there was to it to get my hopper working correctly, in any case I'm happy so all is good
GreenHopper
20 going on 60
In your case I can understand how everything went back to normal but I just can't figure out why mine now reaches temperatures that it has never been capable of before. I really don't believe this is all there was to it to get my hopper working correctly, in any case I'm happy so all is good
Maybe your device's heat sensor had some manufacturing residue on it when it was calibrated at the factory?
grokit
well-worn member
Maybe the third time will be a charm, I sure hope so. If you're following along my hopper has never worked right since the initial repair, that was a ~couple years ago I held onto it and just got it back for the 3rd time this go-round. I am determined to have a working hopper again. It seems to be working better than ever, great extraction @3.5 on the dial I'm gonna leave it there and turn it off after every session, I won't be leaning on it as a daily driver this is the coolest vaporizer ever when it's working fingers crossed again.
mmafighterthe25
Well-Known Member
What you guys think Is better. The fury vaporizer or grasshopper. I have grasshopper for like two weeks til my wife tossed that shit out.
Hjalmark
Oldest boy alive
Maybe the third time will be a charm, I sure hope so. If you're following along my hopper has never worked right since the initial repair, that was a ~couple years ago I held onto it and just got it back for the 3rd time this go-round. I am determined to have a working hopper again. It seems to be working better than ever, great extraction @3.5 on the dial I'm gonna leave it there and turn it off after every session, I won't be leaning on it as a daily driver this is the coolest vaporizer ever when it's working fingers crossed again.
Such an nice device but sadly it's finicky
vapviking
Old & In the Way
I understand, but maybe you could be more specific about whether or not, as policy, HL may re-purpose parts from 'used' units into components of new ones?
I would not be opposed to the practice if it were disclosed up front.
Hey, what did I tell ya?
Glad you're happy with your new friend. Mighty will now last even longer!
slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
They don't do that. Not too mention the components are constantly updated. If you send one in for a repair if the component that failed is updated, the replacement component is the new updated version, not the same version you had before. It's rather the opposite of repurposing old parts in fact.
I did suggest to them that they should sell refurbished units at a discounted price and they didn't want to do that. They think like a software company in the sense that if there's is 2.new version they want to push out that update and increase adoption.
Speaking of (not speaking for, I have no ideas of their plans on this) wouldn't it be cool if hopper 2.0 could download repairs over software ... #sundaymorning #birdhead
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Icon13
Serial Vapist
Gorilla Glue #4 in the Grasshopper , listening to "Off The Top" freestyles on Youtube .Drinking this amazing juicy IPA from Heist Brewing Citraquench'l.
Hmmmmm. I'm going to have to raise you with a pound of Sonoma Glue and put you all in.
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kushkush
happy camper....
Every time I touch the metal mouthpiece to the rear of the unit, the red lights flash once and then are off. If I keep doing this, the red lights just keep flashing once, but I don't hear any clicks. And, just take your keys out and try touching the rear of the gh...see what happens.
I got real discouraged with my Grasshopper because it took exactly one year to the day to receive it after I ordered it...that put a real damper on things. Kept writing to them every 2 or 3 months and they kept saying it'd ship very soon, then it wouldn't. So long story short, I'm not using it much and am looking toward the Dynavap now...looks almost too good to be true.
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
Dynavap is an awesome company, but the GH is the superior product from what I've been told. I'll find out for myself soon enough as I have one on its way to me.
But I gotta drop a quick line. I've been loving the GH since I've got back home. That first session after 4 days off was insanely great, and it's the icing on the cake of my everyday generally. I've been travelling around and have been doing huge assembly days down in Hobart, having a hopper to return to after makes it that much easier
kushkush
happy camper....
I haven't seen any negatives on the Dynavape threads and some are over 800 pages. 
One thing I really want to be rid of is having to deal with batteries that don't last long, or batteries at all for that matter. Please do come back and let us know what you think of your new Dynavap mod. Did you order the "M" or one of the others?
One thing I really want to be rid of is having to deal with batteries that don't last long, or batteries at all for that matter. Please do come back and let us know what you think of your new Dynavap mod. Did you order the "M" or one of the others?
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I should clarify - by better device, I mean more powerful and convenient. The dynavap lineup certainly is full of great products that are innovative and durable.I haven't seen any negatives on the Dynavape threads and some are over 800 pages.
One thing I really want to be rid of is having to deal with batteries that don't last long, or batteries at all for that matter. Please do come back and let us know what you think of your new Dynavap mod. Did you order the "M" or one of the others?
I'm not so sure the toss up between batteries and butane will mean a lot to me, I seem to have a fairly seemless battery experience with external/portable chargers with the GH, butane seems worse. Costs similar (probably less depending on usage, but batteries and cans cost about the same IME) but not being able to easily handle/pocket the device after use is definitely a con for me.
I did opt for the M, I've been told there's negligible differences between it and other models, and it does sound like more of a process than the GH (I'm assuming I won't use it as much given the choice). However, I like the idea of it being good enough to upgrade to a nonavong or even a Ti version. They have a lot of cool products so it'll be sweet to try one out and get an idea about it.
Straight up I think that electricity is going to suit me better, but I'll be back to voice an opinion when I form one about that aspect and the devices.
I think it'll be the perfect on-the-side solution with a hopper.