Discontinued The Grasshopper

Pharoh

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That's impressive, but hopefully you didn't speak too soon....according to Randy of Puffitup, Crafty's mostly go between 90-110hours. It amazes me that your heatup speed is so fast at your crafty's age. I've owned a bunch of these in the past, and after about 30 hours, the heatup time was close to 3 minutes. And the performance was even worse.

The GH blows the Crafty/Mighty out of the water IMO. Just like the Solo, the S&B portables are like horse & buggy now.

It's like once you taste that 5 second heatup, you can't go back to 1-2 minutes! But that's just me, I severely lack patience as life seems to be just flying by way too quickly for me!
I'm new to the GH...just bought one of the $350 ones last week....I like it...But so far..the Mighty is far superior...This GH i nice for on the run vaping...but the flavor sucks and the mouth piece gets way too hot...a long draw will blister your lip...at mid settings....i don't want to have to use the rubber.... I have noticed that when i clean out the chamber, it appears that ver little is left in the chamber and it's not all that brown...still looks a little green...
 

guyonthecouch

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I'm new to the GH...just bought one of the $350 ones last week....I like it...But so far..the Mighty is far superior...This GH i nice for on the run vaping...but the flavor sucks and the mouth piece gets way too hot...a long draw will blister your lip...at mid settings....i don't want to have to use the rubber.... I have noticed that when i clean out the chamber, it appears that ver little is left in the chamber and it's not all that brown...still looks a little green...
You're doing it wrong....... ;)
There's a slight learning curve to the GH. I suggest a slightly finer than coarse grind of material, fuller bowls with little to no packing. I'm not sure how to explain draw technique but there is one to avoid getting too much hot air while toking. I tell people to think of the hopper as a straw and put their focus(visualize) on drawing air through the intake holes. Seems to work.
 

Mr. Me2

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I'm new to the GH...just bought one of the $350 ones last week....I like it...But so far..the Mighty is far superior...This GH i nice for on the run vaping...but the flavor sucks and the mouth piece gets way too hot...a long draw will blister your lip...at mid settings....i don't want to have to use the rubber.... I have noticed that when i clean out the chamber, it appears that ver little is left in the chamber and it's not all that brown...still looks a little green...
To avoid the hot mouthpiece, just put your lips further down the gh (just past the beveled part). Makes ALL the difference.
 

Mr Mellish

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I'm new to the GH...just bought one of the $350 ones last week....I like it...But so far..the Mighty is far superior...This GH i nice for on the run vaping...but the flavor sucks and the mouth piece gets way too hot...a long draw will blister your lip...at mid settings....i don't want to have to use the rubber.... I have noticed that when i clean out the chamber, it appears that ver little is left in the chamber and it's not all that brown...still looks a little green...

Shut it off during each draw and you'll find it cooler. Also, it you want amazing flavor, try 2.5. For the first few draws, it is INTENSE!. Destroys the Crafty at lower heat settings.
 

Hjalmark

Oldest boy alive
My Grasshopper is totally fine

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It is... Sussshhh


(btw wife away so high as fuck alone home being a class idiot and overdosing this thread)




Sussshhh
 

sashka69

Well-Known Member
This is my SS hopper I got in mid' December 2016.
Serial is in the early #6xxx.


The body makes a strange rattling noise out of the box and I swear I never dropped it and no ISO leaked in there.
As my daily driver it has seen a lot of bowls since i got it and it n.e.v.e.r failed. :clap:

I checked with a very strong magnet if this stops the rattling noise but it didn't help. So I think it is nothing made out of metal in there which can cause a short circuit on the pcb.

Any ideas if i should be worried about it although the hopper performs like a champ? I've got 2 TI's as well so I can compare if a hopper performes badly - but this SS hopper is defenitely a beast (but no combustion)!

I will ask Caroline and report back. I guess ist a flaky heater (3D printed CERAMIC if I remember correctly?!)

But maybe its just the soul of my hopper and Caroline confirms it as "absolutely okay" :tup:

I got a message from Caroline:

"[...] In regards to the rattle, I showed the video to the team and they would like to have you send it to us for service. In order for you to do so, please submit a warranty request on GHVape.com and I will get this processed for you and send you instructions for how to return the device to us. Unfortunately, Verdampftnochmal doesn’t have the ability to test the device or knowledge about what could cause this error.

We are happy that they are assisting you with your other Hopper troubles, but would like to have you send this Hopper to us for service."


Hmmm....Perhaps they are just curious... Or they are just careful. But now i'm worried about the rattle noise. They want to take my hoppers' soul away :brow:

I will send it in, BUT i cant register my hopper because of the error "serial nr not found " on the website. So Caroline got another mail. THAT'S frustrating. When I RMA'd my other broken hoppers to verdampftnochmal, I usually get them back within a week.

Now its almost a week and nothing happend but 2 mails from me and 1 from Caroline. :doh: That's such a slow CS. Nice to have 2 backup hoppers.:science:


@ GERMAN HOPPER USERS WHO HAD WARRANTY EXPERIENCES WITH HL: how did you ship it and how long took the whole process till you got your hopper back? I'm afraid of the costs, what about insurance as well ?
 

Pharoh

Well-Known Member
Shut it off during each draw and you'll find it cooler. Also, it you want amazing flavor, try 2.5. For the first few draws, it is INTENSE!. Destroys the Crafty at lower heat settings.
Thanks for your reply....I do turn it off between tokes...still seems a bit hot...I'm going to fire it up on the wy to the gym and see if it's still that way...

To avoid the hot mouthpiece, just put your lips further down the gh (just past the beveled part). Makes ALL the difference.
That's the way I've been doing it...I'm going to experiment with it this evening...keep you posted..
 
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btka

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That's the way I've been doing it...I'm going to experiment with it this evening...keep you posted..
also holding the gh front part in your palm helps to cool the mouthpiece in between hitting it...
but the best way is to use it with some glass e.g. bubbler... for real big clouds... I can recommend youbthe mflb orbiter.. but any other bubbler is also good..
 

Gramin

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Replacement Hopper is here and it's... weird? Feels like a stranger lol!

My first and only was 4xxx B/E serial. Replacement is 6xxx B/E and newer body. There are so many subtle differences wow!

I'm seeing:

  • Lighter, cheaper feeling. (With battery though it's perfectly fine.)
  • Oven looks a little different, the inside screen is super shiny!
  • The body threads look much improved, much more even threading and feels nice and chunky. Maybe even gritty. Going to give it a clean before I use.
  • B/E dial is smooth af. The clip is rock solid whereas my old one was very loose. The 1-5 slits have a half polished, half matte design now. Edit: Going to have to add that those last two-three turns to get the B/E flush are extremely painful but maybe that will loosen up?
Time for a quick clean and some testing on performance.

They gave me back the original mouth piece so now I'm officially a member of mismatched looking parts. Not too fussed! Once silicon is on barely an issue.

EDIT: Wow I just pulled a tiny piece of metal out of the B/E.

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Here's my inside, doesn't have the test point so I must be a generation or two behind.

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And here's a quick video from the 2nd hit. It's good to be home!

https://vid.me/GMvp

As a strict no.4 user, I think it might be hotter than my first hopper. Maybe this is the battery improvements previously mentioned? I could theoretically dial down to 3.5-3.75 to find the 4 I'm used to, therefore less drain? Let's test...

...Just got a nice milky cloudy hit on 3.5! I don't think this was easy to do on my first hopper. B/E was dead cold!

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Just noticed the old mouthpiece matches the ring near the clip. Kind of neat!

Sorry for all the edits lol.
 
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JoeMama

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My PAX2 hasn't been used since I received my Hoppers. It's not that I dislike the device, it's just the Hopper is better in every way except sessioning.

Ditto, Green.. And recently just got the Firewood 4, so methinks the Pax2 will be a thing of the past... unless 2 hoppers and the FW4 all crap out at the same time... in which case, I will have to stop vaping altogether because that's just too creepy.

I'm new to the GH...just bought one of the $350 ones last week....I like it...But so far..the Mighty is far superior...This GH i nice for on the run vaping...but the flavor sucks and the mouth piece gets way too hot...a long draw will blister your lip...at mid settings....i don't want to have to use the rubber.... I have noticed that when i clean out the chamber, it appears that ver little is left in the chamber and it's not all that brown...still looks a little green...

Pharoh, give it some time....

Rather than add to the already-sufficient suggestions given by our friends here, just keep at it and - barring a malfunctioning device - you will come to understand it. Took me a while, and even currently at times can be perplexing.

One thing: Make sure your herb is DRY. Real dry. Your first draw will be floral and not much cloud production. And the heat, you'll adjust on the MP where your mouth goes. As @Mr. Me2 mentions, choke up on the MP a bit with your lips.

Looking forward to hearing about your experiences.

You're doing it wrong....... ;)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

Hogni

Honi soit qui mal y pense
I got a message from Caroline:

"[...] In regards to the rattle, I showed the video to the team and they would like to have you send it to us for service. In order for you to do so, please submit a warranty request on GHVape.com and I will get this processed for you and send you instructions for how to return the device to us. Unfortunately, Verdampftnochmal doesn’t have the ability to test the device or knowledge about what could cause this error.

We are happy that they are assisting you with your other Hopper troubles, but would like to have you send this Hopper to us for service."


Hmmm....Perhaps they are just curious... Or they are just careful. But now i'm worried about the rattle noise. They want to take my hoppers' soul away :brow:

I will send it in, BUT i cant register my hopper because of the error "serial nr not found " on the website. So Caroline got another mail. THAT'S frustrating. When I RMA'd my other broken hoppers to verdampftnochmal, I usually get them back within a week.

Now its almost a week and nothing happend but 2 mails from me and 1 from Caroline. :doh: That's such a slow CS. Nice to have 2 backup hoppers.:science:


@ GERMAN HOPPER USERS WHO HAD WARRANTY EXPERIENCES WITH HL: how did you ship it and how long took the whole process till you got your hopper back? I'm afraid of the costs, what about insurance as well ?

I dont understand why you are making a warranty claim yourself. Bought in Germany there are 2 years of "Gewährleistung" within the retailer have to solve all the troubles with the device. Give your hopper to 'Verdampftnochmal' and they have to solve the issues!? After this two years you have to handle your warrany claims yourself.
Only because having less troubles - and shipping costs - in case of malfunction I've bought my hopper at 'Verdampftnochmal' in Dec 2016 too. Otherwise I would have ordered my Hopper directly at GHL for 80 € less.
For further communication drop me a line.
 
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Hjalmark

Oldest boy alive
@Hogni
Reasons for I love the EU and it's legal system mostly design to benefit us but of course has its problem, 99% of them being upper management politicians and diplomats working for their own gain

But only time you here people angry at it, then it's from basically some redneck that have stupid banners like "health is a chose", and complain about damn scientists always telling them what is good or not

But without getting into stupid "moral-sanding" politics I am glad for health and safety of a well regulated governmental body that fights for us and this living spaceship we seam to be hellbend on finishing its finite resources.

We are mostly doomed as a specie
 

ROB520

Member
@Hogni
Reasons for I love the EU and it's legal system mostly design to benefit us but of course has its problem, 99% of them being upper management politicians and diplomats working for their own gain

But only time you here people angry at it, then it's from basically some redneck that have stupid banners like "health is a chose", and complain about damn scientists always telling them what is good or not

But without getting into stupid "moral-sanding" politics I am glad for health and safety of a well regulated governmental body that fights for us and this living spaceship we seam to be hellbend on finishing its finite resources.

We are mostly doomed as a specie

Damn bro just took a few rips of hopper on 4 then read your post, deep bro lol :whoa:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Caroline said my singing unit is no big deal
One of mine was singing while on the charger a few days ago. Could hear it from six feet away because it was amplified by sitting on a plate. Off/back on charger and it stopped. That was the only time I've ever noticed it. Onward.

I have just begun to notice a couple of differences between my Ti and SS. I've tried to account for battery variation in this;
The SS will heat to 5 in about six seconds and will produce nice clouds though not quite like the Ti which takes 10-15 seconds to get to 5, then rips big ones. The abv from each attests to this; from SS medium brown is about as far as it will go, but the Ti will bake it to very dark and that almost-burnt taste. Both bodies have the new test module on board. In the peanut butter category, the Ti is "crunchy" and the SS is "smooth".
They both kick butt, so I'm just noting individual differences. These came more to light because,

Yesterday I took a tip from @biohacker 's video playbook :tup: and changed my water tool from a pint jar to a quart, extending the glass downstem with just a piece of tubing for now. It affords a larger chamber above the water for cloud to que up for tasty & a little cooler consumption. The added tubing has converted the showerhead to a single bubble (the end of tube) which is lessening draw restriction for this piece and changing diffusion. So far, so good, tested a lot with both hoppers and muzz'd Mighty. Been taking 4 or 5 primer puffs before even putting Hopper on the water piece to begin the real draw.
Da-da da-da-da, I'm lovin' it! :nod:

But, geez I need a T break. Been over-medicating for my post-electionitis. Got it bad. :ugh:
 

biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
What causes the ultra scorching hot backends? Could it be batteries that are ready to check out? I've been still stubbornly testing my GH's before I finally send them out, because I really want to make sure it's not something like the battery, and i've noticed similar behaviours in my older OG GH's, so now I don't know WTF is going on. I did try the GHB2 batteries (only have 3 of them) and performance is still kinda inconsistent but the backends holy crap do they getting burning hot. The thing is the newer GH's CAN WORK, it's just not every single time.

I wish I had a way to check my batteries.....can the nitecore d4 give any useful info?

It just seems that power is going to the backend and not the heater. I bluetac all the threads, clean, etc.
 

moondog

It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
But, geez I need a T break. Been over-medicating for my post-electionitis. Got it bad. :ugh:

My situation exactly. I've been on a break starting on Monday and I haven't slept well -or on some nights, at all - since then. My news-related depression is bordering on unmanageable.

What causes the ultra scorching hot backends?

I wish I had a way to check my batteries.....can the nitecore d4 give any useful info?

I am now in the camp of "a hot back end is a malfunctioning back end". The backend on my SS stayed nice and cool all the time until I got it back from GHL after a brief-red-light-then-nothing failure. It "works" now but the backend gets super-hot immediately and the hopper is under-performing. My Ti backend is still nice and cool.

The D4 will give you status on the battery's charging progress and how much of a charge it currently has but I don't think it gives you any info on its "health". But one of our esteemed battery mavens can tell you more, I'm sure.
 

biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
I've been on a break starting on Monday and I haven't slept well -or on some nights, at all - since then

I feel for you, breaks are so hard on me that I basically cannot sleep whatsoever (and my bed turns into a swimming pool). Fortunately, by switching to the GH with one-hitters, my tolerance has actually plummeted.

My news-related depression is bordering on unmanageable.

It's all fake news propaganda.....turn off the TV, turn on the GH!

I am now in the camp of "a hot back end is a malfunctioning back end". The backend on my SS stayed nice and cool all the time until I got it back from GHL after a brief-red-light-then-nothing failure. It "works" now but the backend gets super-hot immediately and the hopper is under-performing. My Ti backend is still nice and cool.

Fack.....i've been reading all about hot backends being "normal" on the interwebs and now i'm worried that this is the new GH standard? I feel like as long as they test and get "some" vapour, it will be to spec!

What are you going to do about your returned under performing hot back end now? Back for RMA?
 
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