Actually you wouldn't have to draw since the residue is probably not in the chamber (it is easy to get rid of it in there with some ISO and q-tips), but on the heater itself. So even if you don't draw the burn-in will happen…
Let's get back to the Grasshopper, shall we?
Did we ever depart from the topic? Talking about specific ways to detect off gassing of the Grasshopper, apparently people are finding this useful enough to want to discuss it....
Will the GH heater activate with the mouthpiece detached? That would give any residues more freedom to escape from any "burn ins" sans suction.
My personal take is I believe the makers intend the GH to be safely usable out of the box. But always proceeding with caution is rarely unwise.
I thought the talk was that the 'hopper functioned like the elevape sv where the heater only engages when you draw on it.
If it doesn't I know I won't pick up a second one for me as the one from the indiegogo campaign is earmarked for someone else.
You're right, I forgot about it being draw activated, although Buzz's recent test shows that it does heat up when on, just doesn't transfer as much to the chamber, I was wondering if it still did if MP was detached, I guess.
You're right, I forgot about it being draw activated, although Buzz's recent test shows that it does heat up when on, just doesn't transfer as much to the chamber, I was wondering if it still did if MP was detached, I guess.
It is normal for 2 or so days, but not 15+ like what you're experiencing.
That faint vapor on max that you are referring to. Does it smell like kief or bud or does it smell like something you don't want to be inhaling?
Where are you getting 15 days of use? He received the unit on Monday night.
But always proceeding with caution is rarely unwise.
You're correct. It was @baltik who ran thru 15 burn-ins at full power but the same concerns apply, eh?
Bottom line though is I think GH needs to make a DEFINITIVE comment on this to eliminate further concerns and speculations, eh, or did they already do that?
I've been doing a variety of tests and have been much heavier on the battery than I would for normal use. So far I'm pleased; it would definitely last me several sessions/at least a full day of use no problem.
It is normal for 2 or so days, but not 15+ like what you're experiencing.
That faint vapor on max that you are referring to. Does it smell like kief or bud or does it smell like something you don't want to be inhaling?
I then did just regular burn in cycles simply turning the hopper on and letting it shut off automatically. Lastly when the visible vapor subsided...
doesnt frazzle me, the whole different parameters part is huge lol, 10 minutes of heat time can be a heck of a lot when used for 10/15sec intervals, really depends on personal use, how long ur draws will be and how many hits per session you take. Realistically unless im with people I can see a battery lasting me more than a day but can see it easily being dead after half a day if one of my buddies had itNice, so we've gone from 3 hours of battery life, to 10 minutes, to at least a full day of use. HAHA! I know, it's different parameters, but you see how this kind of stuff gets us our panties in a bunch?
According to their indiegogo video it is direct metal laser sintered.Just a thought on the heater it could be that its been direct metal laser sintered which involves no plastics. So wouldn't cause any problems.
Can we just wait for an official response from the grasshopper team in regards to this off-gassing issue?
My god people. Relax.
I call that the "Tic Tac" effect, someone else called it the "Bazooka Joe" effect. Either way, I hear ya! Hoping the Grasshopper doesn't suffer from it to bad.Thoughts @midgetsanchez or @baltik ?Sounds pretty nasty to me man I wouldn't eat either of those things due to taste haha
It may sound like I'm being precious wanting to retain the taste. However, too many vapes I have used in the past seem to cook off terps into the air, leaking out of air inlets/openings in the air path whilst you are not hitting it. I don't wanna lose terps, these are part of the entourage effect!
This flavor only in first hit effect is a classic property of conduction vapes IME, wherein conduction will cook off the flavor before the other actives in an invisible vapor you can't even necessarily see coming off the vape! This is what happens in the Solo, and even moreso in vapes with more conduction heating (some of which still have their place for concentrates which melt up more readily than the actives ground up in plant material, but are not a portable I want to use for flowers!)
Still, I have actually been kindly reassured that this problem does not take place with the Grasshopper, @BuzzDanklin reports that the flavor stays throughout the bowl after the first hit and does not disappear in the form of invisible vapor escaping the vape after your first inhalation I am relieved, but should not surprised to hear this because the grasshopper is supposed to be convection only.