Dynavap VapCap
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GoldenBud
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Ouch on Ouch. I wish I had some ben & jerry's now. luckily me, still have the VapCap for the minimal but steady side effects of the COVID19's vaccination. steady minimal headache and irritation on the skin abit, but it will go away I suppose?Haha milk makes you cough?
Damned, I gotta stop eating pints of ice cream.
whole nug works p e r f e c t
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RustyOldNail
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I cough on every hit, every device, super clean, water/dry, low/high temps, conduction/convection, every type of material flower to dabs to oil, since my first joint hit as a teen. Not posting this for suggestions, I’ve tried them all. While I’m sure there are many different reasons for coughing and phlegm, I’m finally resigned to accepting I’m ALLERGIC to weed and it’s many ingredients. Not enough yet, to stop, but I do have to limit my draw times. Certainly worth trying all the tips you can, solves the issues for some.
notams
toke down Babylon
@Cannabiker I'm not good at posting links or how to do searches and all. But in this thread. There's a best of. Search for @Squiby (moment of silence). She had a great detailed description of mouth pulls specific to vapcaps. That was my number one help in reducing throat irritation.
That. In addition to low temp caps is the main thing. In the same area (best of, squidby) there's a post about using degummed hemp fiber to make little wafer filters to put behind the ccd. I use them. Works great. And you can vape the used filter afterwards. It filters out some particulates. The temps dont bother me, the dust does.
Also, I never once smoked ever. Not once ever. Cigarettes or cannabis. So, I don't know if that helps or not. And I'm conflicted on whether that gives me more or less cred to fuck combustion.
That. In addition to low temp caps is the main thing. In the same area (best of, squidby) there's a post about using degummed hemp fiber to make little wafer filters to put behind the ccd. I use them. Works great. And you can vape the used filter afterwards. It filters out some particulates. The temps dont bother me, the dust does.
Also, I never once smoked ever. Not once ever. Cigarettes or cannabis. So, I don't know if that helps or not. And I'm conflicted on whether that gives me more or less cred to fuck combustion.
lookhigh
FC member
Milk products make rhinitis worse , worth looking into @GoldenBud
stark1
Lonesome Planet
If you are in Mass, I am told the 2nd (Moderna) shot is the kicker, lasting a day, or two.
Take ibuprofen/aspirin, and wear loose clothing.
A nug, or a THC pill
may help bypass the throat irritationIn the interim.
Congrats on your 1st shot! 
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The Stray Fox
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I think it was you that told me, sorry if it wasn’t, that mixing in CBD flower or CBD isolate with your regular herbs will minimize the allergic effects of THC. THC can really irritate my systems. I don’t know the science behind this but when irritation is bad this technique really helps.
That's funny, a bunch of people in the CBD thread were just talking about how they find CBD harsh by itself and mix in THC rich herb for smoother hits!
The Stray Fox
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That's funny, a bunch of people in the CBD thread were just talking about how they find CBD harsh by itself and mix in THC rich herb for smoother hits!
Haha! That doesn’t make sense to me. Who the F knows? I find CBD to be way less irritating. Harshness and irritation are two different qualities in my book. Maybe CBD is harsh but the after effects are minimal for me. With THC I can experience lasting after effects like throat tightness, increased phlegm production, and a burning feeling in the lungs.@Cannabiker, yes, why not just try a high CBD, low THC strain. Less of a high but still could be a solution? 
StringTheorista
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I’m a big fan of the 1:1 THC:CBD strains myselfThat's funny, a bunch of people in the CBD thread were just talking about how they find CBD harsh by itself and mix in THC rich herb for smoother hits!
Moses Baca
Colorado State Reformatory #8755
Agree. Get that entourage effect going.
BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I like to add cbd isolate sometimes to balance out the high, but I don't notice a difference in irritation from cbd vs thc products.
I find more irritation in the latter hits of a bowl, at least with a vapcap. I tend to vape concentrates and will try to vape it until most of the sticky concentrate is gone from the cotton I use. I wonder if there is a break-even point when vaping concentrates this way, where there is some reclaim left but the harshness of it makes it worthwhile to toss it early and start fresh.
I notice a similar effect with flower where is is mid-brown and can still be taken further to a darker abv, but the hits start getting hotter and less enjoyable. Perhaps it has more to do with the tip getting hotter with each cycle?
Less 'munchies' with a low THC strain as well
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notams
toke down Babylon
Never really occurred to me that an individual could be allergic to cannabis or a component of it. That makes so much more sense than vapor being "too hot" - which is what I thought was happening.
I can't even imagine the discomfort it would cause my throat to crush, heat up, and inhale an allergic irritant. Damn, that sucks. Sorry guys.
I can't even imagine the discomfort it would cause my throat to crush, heat up, and inhale an allergic irritant. Damn, that sucks. Sorry guys.
I find there are two distinct types of dry herb users: those who are gonna squeeze out every last drop, and those who are going to "waste" a bit of their herb to get better vapor quality.
IMHO, a lot of what makes dry herb vaping awesome is obfuscated by going after every last drop. There are still goodies there, yes; but to get to them, you have to start inhaling some of the very same compounds we are specifically vaping to avoid!
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Cannabiker
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Yes, this ^^^. When I wrote "I'd love to know your secret" regarding cough-free vaping, it was basically rhetorical. I don't actually believe there is a secret.
Still, I really appreciate all of the advice. I read it all eagerly, hoping maybe there is some tip that would help. But, like I said, I've been doing this for forty years, and about fifteen of those have been vaping. The last several years have been vaping exclusively. Along the way I've tried innumerable tools and techniques in pursuit of the best effects.
Yes, I clean my tools regularly. That's important for taste and efficiency, but it doesn't do much for harshness. I've also tried many temps, but heat doesn't seem to be the cause. Any temp hot enough to extract will cause irritation. Plus, I'm trying to get high, and I like full extraction (former combuster here) so heat is necessary. CBD strains are a little less harsh for me, but the last sentence applies here. I'm not closing the books on this topic; maybe someone will identify some obscure terpene that's been the problem all along, but I doubt it.
Ultimately, I think it is just irritating for many people. I don't know if it rises to the level of allergy. I'm not experiencing other symptoms of an allergic reaction, and I don't think I need to start carrying an epi-pen. Plus, weed has anti-histamine and anti-inflammatory properties, so allergic responses aren't common.
My original response was to the suggestion that Troy's coughing is a reason to question his validity as a reviewer. I can tell you from experience that many of us with deep cannabis love and credentials still cough.
And I'm sorry to have dragged this off-topic. Have I mentioned how much I'm loving my ti-tipped Simrell lately?
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GoldenBud
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i know my mom also skipped milk and no more phlegms, she doesn't smoke/vape tho, but had phlegms sometimes. how can i treat rhinitis? i'm also a bit allergic to dust..
notams
toke down Babylon
That wasn't off topic. I think it's a topic not discussed enough. We vape to avoid the risks / issues of smoke. We use DV to get the best possible experience. If there is a way to do that with less irritation, that's a valuable discussion.
I agree, the word "allergic" may be too strong. But, the idea that the cannabis itself is the source of the cough is a new angle for me to see things from. So, thanks for dragging us off-topic.
And I prefer Ti tips w/ my Simrell and SS with my M.
Vaporware
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I find there are two distinct types of dry herb users: those who are gonna squeeze out every last drop, and those who are going to "waste" a bit of their herb to get better vapor quality.
IMHO, a lot of what makes dry herb vaping awesome is obfuscated by going after every last drop. There are still goodies there, yes; but to get to them, you have to start inhaling some of the very same compounds we are specifically vaping to avoid!
I started using AVB for topicals and I far prefer that to trying to vaporize every bit (which like you said leads to some less desirable hits). It still gets used, so I don’t feel bad about stopping “early”. I’d probably stop anyway just to avoid inhaling more of those compounds though.
The effects of starting a session with mostly-used flower never seem to be good to me either. Maybe a little relaxing and heavy with an unpleasant taste, but not much else.
The Stray Fox
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I’ve been loving my walnut Ed’s Tnt 14/18 wpa for well over a year. Sold it. Upgraded it to thuya burl. Mmmmm. Love me some metal and wood. 
KidFated.
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He does good work. Good dude, too!
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
I don't think it was me. Though I have dabbed CBD isolate after my normal cannabis flower hits because it can balance out the THC, and add some extra relaxation. I don't know that it's any less irritating to the throat or not.
passenger
is this thing on?
So after some years of nearly Dynavap only I went astray here and there over the last year. And while I think it is good to diversify the way of vaporizing for several reasons I made the observation that when I need a very exact dosing, I'm always reaching for the Vapcap first. It's so reliable, fast to use and easy to clean... that I really will never agree to posts who classify it as entry level... It's a top tier portable device and affordable. 