Omicron Vaporizer for oils

I'm not sure I do understand why :/

Is there anything I can do in the mean time? I already have the hercules, and I already ordered the batteries online. I was very frustrated to find out I needed ANOTHER piece. I've already spent 130$ for the both. Are there any battery extenders or spacers I could use to make it work when my batteries get here?

Unfortunately I got the 7.4v which requires 2 of the small batteries in order to run, unless they sell a longer version of the 7.4 that is the same size as the standard omicron batteries. The 3.7v hercules sounds great with those other batteries, but I wanted the option to use herb AND wax, which the 3.7v can't do.

A simple spacer would work at the bottom of the stack. But thus far all the ones folks have found have been a shade too big to fit (15mm not 14). A couple of guys have used machine screws with a nut on the other end wrapped with tape so only the ends show. You want 15mm in both cases.

FWIW, while I feel for your point of spending the money to upgrade your unit, the decision was yours.

OF

Yes you're right it was my decision to buy it. I had just gone through my 3rd cartridge that started leaking, and wanted to spend some extra money on a long lasting cart like the hercules because in the long run it will be cheaper not having to buy replacement cartridges.

Anyways, do you think these spacers would work?

http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S001414

They say they will work for the 14500 battery, which I know is the same width as the 14250's, so maybe these spacers would work?

Or maybe since it specifies 15mm. http://www.lighthound.com/15mm-Charging-Spacer-Aluminum_p_25.html
or http://www.lighthound.com/Magnetic-Spacer-for-Charging-CR2-or-14250-Battery_p_1048.html

They say they are meant for charging, but does that mean I can't use them for omicron use?

OK your first and third suggestions have possibilities but the LightHound one is known to be too big.

The magnets will work (at least in theory, nobody ever came back and confirmed AFAIK) the problem is where and how. You need the right length stack (15mm) of course, but it can't really work anywhere but in the middle, which is OK if the stack doesn't scramble up in there and short a battery out. My suggestion is to again wrap the lot with tape to make the stack closer to 'bore size'.

Otherwise the plated magnets should handle the current, they're not the most efficient, but they should take discharge currents as well as charging you'd think.

Good luck, sounds like you're on it.

OF

Awesome! Thanks for the help! Just to clarify though because I'm not really experienced in this area. I just want to make sure I do it right when I get them.
I stack the magnets to the right height, wrap some electric tape around them (I'll probably wrap enough to make it the same thickness as the battery), and throw that in the middle of the 2 batteries. Then screw the cap on a voila, 7.4v. Is this correct?

Yup.

I'd probably make it a mm or two undersize so it went in and out easily?

Good luck.

OF

Whoa, whoa.... hold up a bit.

You CAN NOT run a 7.4 Hercules on an Omicron HVD.

No, the two small HVD batteries are not IMR and will not have enough juice in them to run it for long enough, if any. You can try but you will be charging before your first hit. The HVD is to give you a non regulated top(4.2v instead of 3.7v) at 3.7v mini setup or the original battery. You can also get 7.4v for higher ohm cart use but the Herc/Hammer/Bender use too much power. With a passthrough this should be possible, but not portable.

The HVD option was for people to use their Persei carts on their Omicron for a more travel friendly package. Only way you can use a herc 7.4v with the Omicron is with the passthrough.

Damn :/ that's dissapointing. Where can I buy the pass through?

What are my options? Can I get a persei bottom to fit persei batteries? Or where can I get a pass through? Are there aw imr batteries sold for the omicron v2 tube?

The pass through is not out yet. You need a Persei. There are no batteries that fit the Omicron, that will hold power long enough for the herc

EDIT: Just did some more 3.7v herc testing with the Vitolo method in the Video. I am using fresh AW 14500's and the HVD top. I did everything pretty much exact to what he did and got some good vapor. Not quite as thick as in the video, but I think that is all subject to Lighting. I am noticeably more medicated a couple puffs in.

EDIT #2: I find that shaking like the old "rubber pencil trick" we all did in school works better than up and down.


Prob could of gone a little bit more

Man ok that sucks, so I just bought this 100$ cart and batteries for nothing then. Delta 9 isnt very clear on these things, and I was struggling to find info on it. I read that the HVD allows for 7.4v use, but apparently not long enough to get a single rip out of it. I'm told that I can use a pass through, but it is something that doesnt exist (yet). No batteries are anything is available to me. I am kind of sour on the whole thing. Is it too late to just return my omicron and pay the difference for the persei? This is rediculous.

Hey guys,

I have an omicron v2 and have been having trouble getting good hits at 3.7 w a 2.4 cart. When I put it on my persei I get great hits at 7.4. I also have one battery that, even at full charge, doesn't work. The blue light flashes as soon as I hold the button.

Also, I'm very interested in getting the aw imr 14500 batteries. Can I use them in my v2, or do they only work in the hvd upgrade. are there aw imr versions of the perSei batteries that I should get?

Lastly, is there any upgrade to make the persei shorter and to use one of the 3.7 small batteries used to get 7.4? Sorry if that's confusing.

Thanks,

Adam

Patiently awaiting for ''Pass_Thru" for the entire D9V line of fine

cartridges [1.5 > 5.0 ] ~ maybe a new PT Japanese Battery ( Li-ion )

instead of Chinese :-)

The HVD with the 7.4 v battery is a great setup for doing 5ohm and 4ohm carts so not a total waste.

You are certain you bouhght the 7.4v herc and not the 3.7v herc? I know it doesn't help and the web site is a bit confusing if you don't know what you are looking at but when the 7.4 herc was for sale it clearly stated it was for the Persai only.

Now that you are here all the info you need to get the most out of Omni is right here.

Yes I can use other cartridges, I just don't like how quickly they break. I wanted the hercules because I didn't like the idea of buying a new cartridge everytime it breaks. They're 13$ a pop at my local smoke shop, which is also where I bought my hercules. But I did a LOT of research on the internet before I bought it and found nowhere that it specified that it will ONLY work on the persei. What I read was that the HVD upgrade allowed for 7.4v of power, and that the hercules that I bought required a 7.4v power supply. I know there is a 3.7v herc, and I specifically chose not to get that one because you can't vape wax with it, which is my main want.

http://www.planetvape.ca/hercules-oil-and-herb-chamber.html. Nowhere on here does it say it only works on persei. The only time persei is even mentioned is when it says that it features no cutoff time on persei. It does however say it requires IMR batteries though, but I didn't know what the difference was. So I guess that part is my fault.

Even the smoke shop I went to said he was going to send back all of the hercules stuff and whatever adapters and upgrades he had because it was too complicated.

From the delta9 website about the HVD upgrade

"This upgrade will allow you to use 7.4v on your Omicron, and also turn the Omicron into a mini unit. This is not a standalone unit; it requires the bottom cap of the original V2 to operate in mini mode. "

Is it really my bad that I thought the 7.4 herc would work for me?

The PV link is to accessories for the Persai, and it does say Hercules Oil and Herb Chamber for Persei on what you linked. It should be clearer but I suppose PV thought it was enough.

The scientific (dude from delta9) said "The HVD option was for people to use their Persei carts on their Omicron for a more travel friendly package."

Which to me says HVD upgrade allows you to use persei carts. So if the hercules is a persei cart, then why shouldn't the HVD be able to use it? i'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying they don't make it very clear at all.

Where is the beating a dead horse icon?

Sorry didn't mean to do that, I'm just very frustrated. I'll be calling delta 9 tomorrow and see if there's anything I can do. I'll leave you all be now.

Indeed he did say that. I "liked it" when he did, too, because the entire post brings it together. Out of fairness, let me quote the other half of his statement:
"Only way you can use a herc 7.4v with the Omicron is with the passthrough". It means something entirely different in context IMO. If you read the two sentences together it seems to say Hercules won't work without a passthrough with an Omicron.

And this was long after you decided to buy it, right? It had nothing to do with your decision?

Seems to me if you want to do concentrates you should be good to go with carts. If you want to do herb, perhaps you can trade your Hercules in on a 3.7 Volt version? It's unused, right?

Good luck.

OF

There is a requirement on the Hercules Oil version that says requires IMR batteries, since the Omicron 7.4v does not have IMR batteries this disqualifies it.

If its not uses and ordered from us maybe we can do something, call the office and see what they say.

While I know you have to pay to play but I have played with 13 5 packs of various ohm ratings in the one year since getting the Omni ( and other various versions and accesories), I do have 2 full boxes left so call it 11 5packs. Maybe I should be more concerned with the fact that I have vaped a minimum of 125g of oil through Omni in a year, lmao. Still it would be nice to have a less costly cart for the Omni since I have no intention of spending another $500-700 in carts this year. I most certainly would buy a cleanable oil cart for the Omni if one come available.