reece

Well-Known Member
Vapor-Rings said:
I've had my iolite for a month or so, but I just joined FC today!
Anyways, have a few questions and comments about the iolite

when i was cleaning my iolite i dislodged the metal part of the bowl piece from the white ceramic looking thing. I put it back in but now it spins freely (like another user mentioned somewhere else in this thread). Did they use some sort of glue to make it stick or what? :uhoh:
Not really a huge problem, at least i can stir the bowl now without taking off the herb chamber :lol:

I think I found the sweet spot, I get huge vapor draws from this baby and i find myself like so :ko:
just had to get the technique down.
With the mouth piece connected, pull on the mouthpiece a bit while holding the chamber (black part). It'll get back into place and won't spin. It happens to me all of the time.
 
reece,

Vapor-Rings

Well-Known Member
Thanks Reece, I somehow got the metal piece to "snap" into the herb chamber. No more spinning.

@ Shotgunwilly: Tried your mod. Put the retaining ring down followed by the 7 dot herb chamber, finally the last retaining ring is holding the 7 dot herb chamber. I put the holes in the 7dot screen facing the pin so it fits well. And also removed the screen with the hole in it at the bottom of the heating pin. What I've noticed is that even when the unit is not on, the airflow is IMMENSELY better!

I'll test it in a bit to see if it gives any better results!


Thanks everybody for the tips and everything in this thread, it's helped me understand and use my Iolite much better


HAPPY VAPING :peace:
 
Vapor-Rings,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
I officially caved and ordered a 2nd one so that I can try a mod w/out fear of being without if I goof! Good news is that I am getting the "re-designed chamber" - so will see what that is like 2!!
 
Lo,

NoSmoke

Well-Known Member
shotgunwilly said:
Nosmoke, i've been thinking about your mod, just taking a swag at it, im thinking by putting the xtra screen (7 hole thing) in, you re doing two things, one, dramatically increasing the "head space" (thats originally why i looked to mod mine) and two, by having more metal in the bowl area, maybe it is retaining more heat from the pin, (you said that the pin makes contact or close enough) thus increasing the bowl temp, perhaps bringing it up closer to the magic 200 C where they found the highest thc vaporization... just a wild ass guess, but it sounded good :lol:, (at least in theory...) im going to try your mod later today... sorry kalinga, i cant bring myself to cut the pin... ;) but thumbs up on the pics, i ve finally was able to visualize what nosmoke was talking about.... oh, DB, about resmoking the used herb... i tried it once and only once, when i very first vaped, (not wanting to waste any herb,) and it was equivalent to smoking ass hair and grass clippings (not the good kind), it tasted like a very bad cigar.... absolutely terrible... save yourself the disgust, its not worth trying... ive been saving mine up to use in the garden, maybe itll give a micro boost of thc to my tomatoes...:lol:
I think that is exactly what is happening the pin is heating up the extra ring creating extra heat, I also believe the fact that the material is so close to the pin also pays a factor. I like to hold my iolite upside down for the first couple cycles also, just figured it would kind of be the same theory as the PD where the heat will make the herb freeze into the chamber, it works fairly well, once I'm done I barely have any material at all in the bottom chamber! Can't wait to see how it goes Willy I'm expecting awesome results!

Edit: oh yeah packed my Iolite fairly full this morning, and inbetween hits my mouthpiece was seeping vapor out the end, what a pretty picture def more heat!
 
NoSmoke,

Vapor-Rings

Well-Known Member
Well I definitely like it better without the screen on the bottom of the heating pin. For some reason sometimes my air path would get blocked by that. :o After the changes to that and the 7 hole chamber it seems to hit slightly better than it did when I first got it.

I'm still able to take vapor hits big enough to hurt my lungs so that's good! :D

Although I did notice that my herb sometimes gets stuck in the holes in the 7 dot screen.
 
Vapor-Rings,

leozdad

Well-Known Member
So let me get this; put the second screen in to take up more space to give heat/air/headroom and take out the bottom screen to give more weed/air/bottomroom. the heat pin heats the extra screen thereby giving more vape temp thus better hits. do i have this mod correct? you would need to poke a hole in the second screen to allow the heat pin to go thru, yes? I have 2 iolites but i don't think i want to cut the heat pin, i would rather put a hole in the screen. BTW my screens don't look like kalingas, mine have a screen on the face of the 7 hole base and the base is only about 1/8" thick :peace:


2 ioLites, on list for PD, Dear Santa daddy wants an SSV
 
leozdad,

Vapor-Rings

Well-Known Member
Ok so first off i'm typing this on my phone so excuse any grammar errors.

I took shotgunwillys mod and improvised a bit. I took the screen from the bottom of the heating pin and placed it in between the 7dot screen and the top retaining ring. The hole is already cut in the middle of the screen so you don't need to worry about heating pin poking through!
Also this screen prevents the 7 dot screen from clogging up.

I'll add pics tonight.
 
Vapor-Rings,

djelimon

Well-Known Member
I dunno guys, I'm getting clouds no worries. Few bits of hash in the mix too mind you. It's a neat little unit.

I do find waiting a few cycles helps, but of course you don't want the temp to get too far out of range.
 
djelimon,

shotgunwilly

Well-Known Member
i believe you have it right leozdad..( i also have the 1/8" screen) and from what nosmoke was saying (please correct me nosmoke if i am wrong) that the second screen is the one from the bottom, so you dont have to poke a hole in it, its already there... so... from the stem part, it would be: retaining ring, two seven hole screen assemblies, (holes facing the pin) then the screen from the bottom (with the hole) then the retaining clip... is that right nosmoke? or do you not have the last holed screen, (i noticed you said you replaced the screen on the second seven hole...) but i like the suggestion by vapor rings, that it would prevent the holes from getting plugged.... time for me to go and try these different mods with my toy...:brow:
 
shotgunwilly,

highendvapes

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
Ok heres what worked for me. From the stem, 1 seven holed w/ screen- holes toward pin, 1 seven holed w/ screen removed, screen from bottom w/ hole, retaning ring. Basicly its back to how it started with a second screen body inserted to act as a heatsink. This allows the pin to go all the way in and the bowl closes completly. Wow, Im actually impressed with my iolite for the first time since I got it. I get CLOUDS and Im not letting it recover inbetween draws. Finally I dont feel like I threw away my money.
 
highendvapes,

kalinga

Well-Known Member
Ok, i'm getting better clouds. There's an improvement in airflow. I dropped in exactly 2 PD bowls of finely grinded herbs into the iolite modded-chamber. The chamber is almost full now.

Getting more hits with this mod. I like it. :cool:

Lo, I cut the pin using a small handsaw and a vice grip.
 
kalinga,

Vapor-Rings

Well-Known Member
What if one were to, say, put the retaining ring in between the two 7 hole screens to add space in between them? or would it be better to leave the retaining ring at the bottom? So it would be from the stem: 1 7 hole screen followed by a retaining ring followed by another 7hole screen followed by the screen with the hole in it, and a retaining ring?

Or like no smoke did have 1 retaining ring and then 2 7 hole screens and then the screen w/ the hole in it then the final retaining ring.
 
Vapor-Rings,

NoSmoke

Well-Known Member
shotgunwilly said:
i believe you have it right leozdad..( i also have the 1/8" screen) and from what nosmoke was saying (please correct me nosmoke if i am wrong) that the second screen is the one from the bottom, so you dont have to poke a hole in it, its already there... so... from the stem part, it would be: retaining ring, two seven hole screen assemblies, (holes facing the pin) then the screen from the bottom (with the hole) then the retaining clip... is that right nosmoke? or do you not have the last holed screen, (i noticed you said you replaced the screen on the second seven hole...) but i like the suggestion by vapor rings, that it would prevent the holes from getting plugged.... time for me to go and try these different mods with my toy...:brow:
That's correct exceptt I use a screen in both 7 hole rings, a complete screen in the first on then the holed screen in the second. Sorry don't have much time, ill try t give a detailed explanation later!
 
NoSmoke,

leozdad

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okay, 1) retaining ring, 2) 7 hole, 3) 7 hole, 4) screen, 5) retaining ring ............... got it. BTW can someone tell me why i am taking out the bottom screen, I know its a mod but what is the purpose again? Thanks :peace:
 
leozdad,

shotgunwilly

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ok... tried different ways... nosmoke, i couldnt get the bowl to seat quite right with the double 7holes, (even though i swapped out the solid screen with a holed screen on the bottom 7hole assembly) but you are right, the herb seems to vape quicker your way... that said though, i think the way i found that worked best with my iolite, (ie. biggest vapor for the longest period of time): (from the stem) retaining ring, one 7hole, (with holes toward pin), retaining ring, then a screen with the hole, (since its a little bigger than the bowl, i just shaped it on my finger with before putting it in...) i liked vapor rings idea and added the xtra holed screen,between the herb and the start of the 7 hole, i found that even though in theory the extra screen reduces air flow, that it helped keep the 7 holes clear, and i was getting big vapor clouds... herb seemed like it lasted longer than the two 7hole set up, and i just felt like i was getting more vapor... might be my imagination, but, this setup is how im going to go for now on... leozdad, i dont know if removing the bottom screen makes a difference, i did it to allow the herb to get closer exposure to the heat source and to increase the surface area of the pin on the herb.... again, between my original mod of creating that head space and taking out the screen, my iolite seems to put out more vapor, so i just left it out... so, in final, for me, its from stem: 1)retaining ring 2) one 7hole/screen assembly (holes toward pin) 3) retaining ring 4) holed screen... even though the last screen doesnt have a retaining ring, the screen seems to stay put, but can be pulled out with a pin for cleaning out herb bits that get pushed up into the center hole ( i highly recommend those 2 inch "T" shaped hat pins) ... all in all, had some fun trying the different mods, got pretty ripped though, :ko: thanks everyone for the different mod options!
 
shotgunwilly,

leozdad

Well-Known Member
Yeah i found that the second 7 hole wouldn't work so i went back to the retaining ring, 1- 7 hole, retaining ring, i will try the extra screen later tonight after work. and yes trying out these mods sure does rip ones melon :cool: :peace:
 
leozdad,

max

Out to lunch
BTW can someone tell me why i am taking out the bottom screen, I know its a mod but what is the purpose again?
Some have said the unit works better with no bottom screen, but regardless, keeping it in the unit eventually requires you to remove the pin to clean the screen. Screwing the pin back in is a delicate operation-easy to strip threads. The beta testing model has a permanently installed pin, a smooth, rounded bottom and no bottom screen. We're pretty sure these changes will be made to production models at some point, with maybe a longer moisture condenser as well. Sounds like it may be a good idea for iolite to try some of the upper screen mods you guys are doing too.
 
max,

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
I have two I-olites. I bought my first in a special introduction when they were first released last October, 2008. I just bought a new one when GrassCity (in the NL) had a special deal noted here on this board (thank you, whomever).

My old one, had a head-room dot-spacer/screen more or less three-dimes deep. My new one has a head-room dot-spacer/screen about one-dime deep.

When you all are talking about headroom, are you talking a six-dime head space, or more like the old way three dimes deep?

Has anyone considered a compression fitting of suitable size to act as spacer upon which to place new dot screen and retention ring? Hmmmmm......

I hope I'm making sense. One of my main problems with this Board is my frequent Non-sequiturs.
 
macbill,

shotgunwilly

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hey macbill...the headspace before the manufacture "groove" that holds the 7hole was only about a dime deep...(on mine) and i found that it didnt take long before it was filled with tar...or buildup whatever you want to call it... i have found that the tolerances are pretty tight and i think that limits how much "headroom" you can create before the 7hole hits the pin... i havent checked for sure how much room you have to play with, but i dont think its much... but youre right to maximize that area would be ideal for a uniform draw thru all 7 holes and hopefull more vapor...
 
shotgunwilly,

NoSmoke

Well-Known Member
Has anyone considered a compression fitting of suitable size to act as spacer upon which to place new dot screen and retention ring? Hmmmmm......
That would work awesome and it would also be a heatsink of sorts, but it would need to have a hole for the pin to slide thru.
 
NoSmoke,

NoSmoke

Well-Known Member
leozdad said:
Yeah i found that the second 7 hole wouldn't work so i went back to the retaining ring, 1- 7 hole, retaining ring, i will try the extra screen later tonight after work. and yes trying out these mods sure does rip ones melon :cool: :peace:
I don't know how the bowls are not sitting right for you guys, once I can get some time I'll post pictures maybe that can give you guys a better idea of what I'm doing.
 
NoSmoke,

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
NoSmoke said:
Has anyone considered a compression fitting of suitable size to act as spacer upon which to place new dot screen and retention ring? Hmmmmm......
That would work awesome and it would also be a heatsink of sorts, but it would need to have a hole for the pin to slide thru.
A compression fitting (or at least, what I'm thinking of) is kind of a thin ring which goes over, say, a small, copper drinking water tube and is used to help join tubes and fittings. So, it is mostly just a hole. The outside diameter would have to be close to or equal to inside diameter of chamber. I'm going out tomorrow with my trusty iolite part and seek a suitable size.

A person could try just a nut as spacer - before 7-dot screen - there is a hole in the middle of a nut for the pin to pass, but it doesn't give the vacant space I understand we want.

Regarding the old I-inhale: there was a three-dime deep 7-dot screen which allowed headroom, and as soon as I figure out how to post photos, I'll show you.
 
macbill,

highendvapes

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
I really thought there was a diff with the 2 7 holes, but couldnt close the mouthpiece, so I took the screen out of one and drilled out the center hole to allow the pin to pass thru. now i have ring for head space, 2 7holes to acts as a heatsink, bottom screen and ring to hold it all in place. This thing rocks now.
 
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