Are you saying the charger does not shut off when the battery is full? Sure sounds like that is your point.......If one considers 4,000% more current the same thing, then one can say they do.
Are you saying the charger does not shut off when the battery is full? Sure sounds like that is your point.......If one considers 4,000% more current the same thing, then one can say they do.
Interesting few posts on the merits of chargers. I like the ‘trickle’ feature and it makes sense. On a whim I went to the Nitecore site and this was offered for the D2 (which I have, and I have the I4 too):
Not sure whether the first and last bullets preclude ‘trickle’ but it sounds like you can’t overcharge them. They’ve both served me well though. And speaking of served, I’m stuffed! Took a couple of nice low temp and very flavorful draws on the ride to the holiday meal - too bad traffic stunk!
- Automatically stops charging when complete.
- Integrated LCD panel clearly displays charging mode, voltage, current and progress
- Reverse polarity protection
- Over-charge prevention to protect batteries
Yes, it will reduce amperage automatically or you can select manually the lower charging.D4 has a low charging function,long-press the bottom yellow button till the low indicator appears on the screen.
the performance will tend to be better from charges better suited to small size cells.
the tolerance of the voltmeter in the circuit. The Xtars are more accurate, the Nitecore I can see has an accuracy of ±0.03 (the readout also cannot exceed "4.20" so can't really be trusted). I have found the Xtars accuracy before, don't know if I can dig it up as quickly. But 0.03V isn't great, but good enough. The Xtars are very efficient and well regarded. The Nitecores are too, but specifically for the flashlight enthusiasts and nicotine fiends vaping on 18650s. And even still, the Xtar does do a better job.In what specific metric is the performance better, please?
I don't think I ever started using it. I had the original design, which ended up being redesigned to lessen the prying force when removing it, the back-end is ... variably assembled, and vulnerable.Remind me, please
Why did folks stop using mag charger?
I prefer tapping 15 min button
follows advice from BU and @OF
still rockin, good results
I’ve hardly started using it too, just recently have I used it a bit. Primarily in my car (I only have one mag charger cord). At home I use the Nitecores. With the dwindling older battery supply I started using the mag charger a bit but relatively seldom. It does work but how well I’m unsure. I try to remove the batts from the Nitecores when they’re done charging, occasionally leaving them in longer. It is what it is.I don't think I ever started using it. I had the original design, which ended up being redesigned to lessen the prying force when removing it, the back-end is ... variably assembled, and vulnerable.
I really like the new charger, but I am in the habbit of a gun slinger, having a heap of rounds ready to go and rapid firing. I have it down to a fine art.
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I find if I use the magnetic charger I forget about it, and I don't like leaving it charging unattended. I kind of thought with multiple units, I'd always have one plugged in, and would just opt for the blue blinking unit. But I find I like to deplete bowls, and then it takes long enough to charge in the unit, I prefer to hot swap a fresh cell. Plus I am more comfortable with accidental leaving cells on the Xtar, it's just easier. And it's a staple part of my portable kit.
My Nitecore SC4 is great as it tells you the health(internal resistance) of each cell. It can also pump in up to 3amp for a fast charge and you can tell it to stop charging at 3.7v to make batteries last longer (like Mil Spec do). My Nitecore also has not blown up like my Xtar VC4, maybe their newer VP4 is built better.Now, I'm not saying its better than the Xtar.
Yeah, being a custom size and chem, these cells will vary for the end user to a greater degree than ordinarily off-the-shelf batteries. It's a caveat with trying to get this much power out of something this small.I’ve hardly started using it too, just recently have I used it a bit. Primarily in my car (I only have one mag charger cord). At home I use the Nitecores. With the dwindling older battery supply I started using the mag charger a bit but relatively seldom. It does work but how well I’m unsure. I try to remove the batts from the Nitecores when they’re done charging, occasionally leaving them in longer. It is what it is.
The biggest thing I’ve noticed with the batteries, not the chargers, is that they’re not all the same. I’ve had a few duds in the few batches I’ve purchased. The new ones seem to be pretty consistent but I may have one that’s not quite like the others. This to me indicates there’s still quality control issues with the battery supplier. While I wish the fire on no one, there’s just a bit of uncertainty about the batteries from my experience and if HL can right this going forward I think they’ve covered all the bases with everything as of late. My RMA’d unit still rocks and I’ve been enjoying it since it’s been back though the fire and battery scare still resonates a bit. But the new ones worked well for me until I stopped using them (per HL) and I’ve just begun to introduce a couple of them into my battery rotation.
2A is the quoted limited rate for the GHB.My Nitecore SC4 is great as it tells you the health(internal resistance) of each sell. It can also pump in up to 3amp for a fast charge and you can tell it to stop charging at 3.7v to make batteries last longer (like Mil Spec do). My Nitecore also has not blown up like my Xtar VC$, maybe their newer VP4 is built better.
2A is the quoted limited rate for the GHB.
You would be able to measure the variable resistance these mixed binned cells will have. I was going to say that to Vaporific, if he has a multimeter, you'll get a much, much more accurate readout than any charger offers. Even a cheap multimeter.
I don't think the VC Xtar models are that comparable with the MC2, more akin to the Nitecore D4. I am specifically talking about the MC2 with GHBs. The Nitecores are really good for whatever else you may have, and they will do a much better job than my shitty Jaycar special. Digitech is all shit. Killed my GHBs in 7 months with it, which is mostly why I think it pays to get a good spec. Nitecore is so close to ideal anyway, I really shouldn't carry my disdain to their brand. But the Xtar MC2 specifically matches the specs of the US mains powered eFest (top tier) charger that HL linked to at one very early point. The SS Cylinder HBC is going to be an awesome thing to eventually receive. But still, the Xtar is more portable and works so well. I'll still be using it I'm sure.
the schematics.It is good to hear you mention the efest as “top tier”. I have been using mine for years.
So, what makes the efest better?
fried town
Remind me, please
Why did folks stop using mag charger?
I prefer tapping 15 min button
follows advice from BU and @OF
still rockin, good results
Really enjoyed catching a buzz with you this morning (morning here, anyway).the schematics.
All these chargers "do the same thing". They take power from a source and transform it out in measured amounts until it calculates the cell has reached a desired level. It then does what it can to keep monitoring the cell and trickle charges.
When you buy top tier, you get better designed and selected componentry which enables more accurate measuring and better precision, shielding and isolation.
If something equates 4.23V as = 4.20V and reports as such, and then continues to charge at some rate (or if it measures 4.20V as 4.17V and keeps charging at a high rate [relative to 0.2mA]), and it's left for many more hours than it normally takes to charge a cell...
4.30V is typically when things go bang. But it also affects the integrity of the cell. It's like a spring, over stretching a spring will kill its elasticity.
I have definitively breached the rated charge cycle with a few cells charging via the MC2, and they are still going strong.
The MC1 and MC2 are known to typically report the cells are completely charged just before they are at 100%, and so basically it prevents ever exceeding 4.20V, and it measures this quite accurately. So does the Efest. It means you can safely charge these low capacity cells without fear of bulging them up, even if you leave them on accidentally, overnight or even longer. Common cause of fires, especially when using unregulated bottom tier ebay crap with bigger cells that are far more volatile and explosive. Most bigger cells are protected internally, I doubt the GHB at 63mm is.
Anway, more importantly, I've just had half a chamber and I'm ripped
Gave my plain Ti RMA'd hopper a complete clean. Threads, battery contact/pcb, battery barrel, whole body+upper chamber light iso papertowling, compressed air, bluetack over the internal back-end threads and on the back end itself, plus bluetacked the intake holes. Stopped short of sanding the back-end battery terminal. Deoxit gold finish I think has been negligible, I've still had to clean at about the same rate. Looks clean, so maybe it helps. Probably mostly on the back end brass negative terminal.
Far out, a new chamber and straight to 5 on the torus. A little technique, try toking at a varied rate instead of at a constant rate. Imagine like a vacuum cleaner with a variable airflow dial, intake as if that dial is being adjusted smoothly from min to max repetitively. Absolutely hoppered. It's so damn good. Really minimal tolerance and the hopper is beyond top tier. Just incredible.
I am almost ready to reserve one.....FC needs more details please. Will it take GHB’s or ??????
I have a little teaser of what is to come above. You can find the reservation page here. I have posted this on FC first, the wider public will not know until tonight. We appreciate the support you have given us and know you will love what we have built. This device is going to change everything, even for those who own Grasshoppers already!
p.s. - New batteries will be starting at the factory in the next week or two.
WOW, 65 Watt?
I have a little teaser of what is to come above. You can find the reservation page here. I have posted this on FC first, the wider public will not know until tonight. We appreciate the support you have given us and know you will love what we have built. This device is going to change everything, even for those who own Grasshoppers already!
p.s. - New batteries will be starting at the factory in the next week or two.
Happy Hoppergiving, HL! Thanks for the advance ‘tease’. We (and I) have lots of questions:
I have a little teaser of what is to come above. You can find the reservation page here. I have posted this on FC first, the wider public will not know until tonight. We appreciate the support you have given us and know you will love what we have built. This device is going to change everything, even for those who own Grasshoppers already!
p.s. - New batteries will be starting at the factory in the next week or two.