Discontinued The Grasshopper

[Justpassedu]

I get about 10 hits on temp 4, and little visible vapor below temp 3, so those aren't too different from normal I believe.

I can get decent clouds with a 5 second pull, definite thick visible vapor. Any convection vaporizer will give you bigger clouds the longer you pull. If you have to pull 15-20 seconds it sounds like something might be wrong.

I usually hit my hopper for 20 seconds or more but I've timed 5-10 second hits and got decent clouds.

yeah i am thinking something is possibly wrong . My batteries would go double the amount of time when i 1st got them. I am also def not getting any vapor at all until i hit it really hard and pull for the 15-20 seconds.

 

[Baron23]

The way I hit the GH, either native or with glass, is to pull medium until I start to feel/taste vapor and heat then I pull HARD. The GH heater seems to be able to keep up handily and this gets lots of hot air through the chamber and I get great clouds. My default temp is just a slight bit over 4. Above 4 about the width of the increment marks. This temp works good for me right down the line and I have not found a need to temp step to five but perhaps I'm missing something here.

 

[Justpassedu]

The way I hit the GH, either native or with glass, is to pull medium until I start to feel/taste vapor and heat then I pull HARD. The GH heater seems to be able to keep up handily and this gets lots of hot air through the chamber and I get great clouds. My default temp is just a slight bit over 4. Above 4 about the width of the increment marks. This temp works good for me right down the line and I have not found a need to temp step to five but perhaps I'm missing something here.

I do the same thing at temp 3 1/2 -4 on the dial. The only problem is i dont get that rush of heat until about 20 seconds of pulling and it has to be a really hard pull. I have had friends try mine with 0 results at all bc they dont pull that hard.

 

[Kermitt]

My new back end came today. It is as hot as the old, now I have to send the GH to the USA :-(

 

[Gramin]

Finally got off my arse and emailed Support and Caroline about getting my battery only order shipped soon. This one battery thing sucks!!!

Also I have a question about backend issues. If unscrewing and tightening again can fix it (It's worked for me once), then maybe the plastic coating of the battery is getting between the contacts? Just a thought.

 

[VimFuego]

My new back end came today. It is as hot as the old, now I have to send the GH to the USA :-(

Me too, replacement back end just as hot as original. Hopper labs have asked me to send the lot back for testing.

 

[Kfirrer]

I had backend heating problems as well,my solution was using CAIG DeoxIT GOLD Pen.

Almost no heat when using the DeoxIT every day, once a day.

You can find it everywhere on the internet.

Hope it helps anyone...

Kfirrer

 

[Kermitt]

Yes, I have to send the GH back too. Problem is, I'm from Germany. This takes time... :-(

When the heat do not effect the life-time of the batteries, I could live with a hot back end. Butt I gess the heat effect the batteries to go down fast.

 

[507E]

I've had my ti grasshopper for about 2 months now. It gets used daily with 3 batteries in rotation. Haven't used the stock charger yet,just my nite core. I love this vaporizer. It definitely exceeds my expectations. It's very convenient on the go and lovely for home use also.

 

[Kermitt]

I've had my ti grasshopper for about 2 months now. It gets used daily with 3 batteries in rotation. Haven't used the stock charger yet,just my nite core. I love this vaporizer. It definitely exceeds my expectations. It's very convenient on the go and lovely for home use also.

And your batteries works fine after 2 months of using?

 

[JoeMama]

Finally got off my arse and emailed Support and Caroline about getting my battery only order shipped soon. This one battery thing sucks!!!

Also I have a question about backend issues. If unscrewing and tightening again can fix it (It's worked for me once), then maybe the plastic coating of the battery is getting between the contacts? Just a thought.

Sunday I was showing a friend how to use the GH, and as I was replacing the battery for a fresh rip, I noticed that the diameter of the contact on the back of the battery is minimally larger than the contact on the backend. But then I dismissed it, because, well, I was showing a friend how to use the GH.

Seriously, if I had a micrometer..... @Ratchett , you must have one! haha... can you measure those circles??

I get about 10 hits on temp 4, and little visible vapor below temp 3, so those aren't too different from normal I believe.

I can get decent clouds with a 5 second pull, definite thick visible vapor. Any convection vaporizer will give you bigger clouds the longer you pull. If you have to pull 15-20 seconds it sounds like something might be wrong.

I usually hit my hopper for 20 seconds or more but I've timed 5-10 second hits and got decent clouds.

I can't really get any clouds at 5 seconds! Takes me well into the 7-10 second mark to feel the heated/vapor mix thickening. Winds up being a 12-15 second hit with another 3 or 4 seconds on a off-status pull. And as @Baron23 says below, I gotta pull hard.

The way I hit the GH, either native or with glass, is to pull medium until I start to feel/taste vapor and heat then I pull HARD. The GH heater seems to be able to keep up handily and this gets lots of hot air through the chamber and I get great clouds. My default temp is just a slight bit over 4. Above 4 about the width of the increment marks. This temp works good for me right down the line and I have not found a need to temp step to five but perhaps I'm missing something here.

Between @Vapor_Eyes style of doing T3 and light load, and this style above, I'm somewhere between those two approached. But I have about 5 strains at a time sitting around and each one I have to play differently. The problem is I forget and (again) get frustrated by the level of detail I think I have to consider when using different herb.

I do the same thing at temp 3 1/2 -4 on the dial. The only problem is i dont get that rush of heat until about 20 seconds of pulling and it has to be a really hard pull. I have had friends try mine with 0 results at all bc they dont pull that hard.

The friend that I was mentioning above, owns a hopper, but she isn't getting that you gotta man-up with it and SUCK. Wait, that didn't come out right.

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

Between @Vapor_Eyes style of doing T3 and light load

My hopper pretty much stays at T4 actually. I tried the lower temps the first day I got it, almost exactly eight weeks ago.

Sometimes I get strains that are difficult to extract so I'll finish a chamber with a hit or two at T5. I really like to stay at 4 though, for me it's the perfect balance between flavor and vapor density.

And your batteries works fine after 2 months of using?

I have one battery that is 8 weeks old and another that is 6 weeks old. I can still get two chambers on each, and have about 3.80v when I go to charge them.

The hopper is not my primary vape so my batteries haven't seen the same amount of use as other people's. I'd say I charge each of them once a day on average, so about 50 charges on each battery. That means I should start seeing decreased performance soon.

I'm going to run these batteries into the ground and then I will have 6 fresh ones to use when I get my preorder. I will keep those in rotation so they should last longer. At $7 I'm happy with the battery's performance so far.

 

[JoeMama]

My hopper pretty much stays at T4 actually. I tried the lower temps the first day I got it, almost exactly eight weeks ago.

Sometimes I get strains that are difficult to extract so I'll finish a chamber with a hit or two at T5. I really like to stay at 4 though, for me it's the perfect balance between flavor and vapor density.

I have one battery that is 8 weeks old and another that is 6 weeks old. I can still get two chambers on each, and have about 3.80v when I go to charge them.

Apologies, Vapor_Eyes... I may be confusing posts... so sorry... But T4 seems like the median for many of us. It is a sweet spot, and there's always T5 for the stubborn strains, true.

I'm thinking I should order a half-dozen more batteries to supplement the three I have in rotation, each roughly doing a charge per day.

I can't measure voltage on my UM20... only percentage. Upgrade maybe...

 

[VimFuego]

Yes, I have to send the GH back too. Problem is, I'm from Germany. This takes time... :-(

When the heat do not effect the life-time of the batteries, I could live with a hot back end. Butt I gess the heat effect the batteries to go down fast.

Yeah, I'm in the UK myself so turn-around time will be long.

 

[Kermitt]

@VimFuego

Why do you changed your back end? Because it gets hot, or are there other reasons? My GH gets hot and I guess, it effects the batteries. How is your experience with the batteries?

I have 5 batteries and after 4 weeks of using, I noticed the batteries lost power. Now after 10 weeks, they are worthless on the go.

I think this is not normal, but I'am not sure. The hot back end itself doesn't bother me.
I would annoy me, to be so long without the Hopper, only to find out, that the batteries are not better with cold back end^^

 

[VimFuego]

@VimFuego

Why do you changed your back end? Because it gets hot, or are there other reasons? My GH gets hot and I guess, it effects the batteries. How is your experience with the batteries?

I have 5 batteries and after 4 weeks of using, I noticed the batteries lost power. Now after 10 weeks, they are worthless on the go.

I think this is not normal, but I'am not sure. The hot back end itself dosen't bother me.
I would annoy me, to be so long without the Hopper, only to find out, that the batteries are not better with cold back end^^

Greetings Sascha

Yeah, my original back end got extremely hot and the replacement the same. I've got four batteries and they don't seem to last as long as they did in the first week or two (it's now about 4-5 weeks in.

 

[Kermitt]

It would be interesting to know if all GH with a hot back end also have problems with the batteries. It would also be interesting to know, whether people with a cold back end, have a loss of power, even at an early stage. Perhaps the batteries are simply fast at their end of life.

I find it unfortunately difficult to express myself, this is not my usual language. Sorry for that :-)

 

[Kalessin]

It would be interesting to know if all GH with a hot back end also have problems with the batteries. It would also be interesting to know, whether people with a cold back end, have a loss of power, even at an early stage. Perhaps the batteries are simply fast at their end of life.

I find it unfortunately difficult to express myself, this is not my usual language. Sorry for that :-)

Neither of the backends I've had exhibit battery issues and they get at least warm, at times. Not so hot I can't touch it, but enough heat I can feel it heating up if my fingers are near to but not touching it

 

[YaFreekin Right]

It would be interesting to know if all GH with a hot back end also have problems with the batteries. It would also be interesting to know, whether people with a cold back end, have a loss of power, even at an early stage. Perhaps the batteries are simply fast at their end of life.

I find it unfortunately difficult to express myself, this is not my usual language. Sorry for that :-)

I'm quite certain the hot back end will affect the batteries. They are already being pushed very hard(impossible to know design max since these are custom batteries) and this being a regulated device it will have to up the amps to overcome the losses created by the hot back end. This is the same reason I believe you experience a hotter backend as the voltage drops(batteries get low).

 

[Kermitt]

I'm going to see if the heat changes, the emptier the battery is.

I have new batteries of today. Now I got along all evening with one battery. In my memory I have on the first day, when I got the GH, directly several batteries needed.

I will continue to monitor and then decide if I send the GH on warranty.

 

[JoeMama]

It would be interesting to know if all GH with a hot back end also have problems with the batteries. It would also be interesting to know, whether people with a cold back end, have a loss of power, even at an early stage. Perhaps the batteries are simply fast at their end of life.

I find it unfortunately difficult to express myself, this is not my usual language. Sorry for that :-)

I think your written English is fantastic...

I'm quite certain the hot back end will affect the batteries. They are already being pushed very hard(impossible to know design max since these are custom batteries) and this being a regulated device it will have to up the amps to overcome the losses created by the hot back end. This is the same reason I believe you experience a hotter backend as the voltage drops(batteries get low).

There must be an effect on efficiency if the backend is "more than warm", or, gets hotter sometimes more than others. My only logic in making this statement is that it just seems to me that if there is even one hopper out there that typically never gets hot (like mine and many others here), then, any hopper that gets "too hot" is not functioning properly. If energy makes heat, it is 'syphoned-off' energy and therefore decreasing the oven efficiency.
Some have in the past mentioned that the hot chamber material is spreading to the body, but, I don't buy that if we're talking about a single (even long) hit.

My 2¢

With the apparent bottleneck opening up with GHL shipments, methinks there will be a LOT of new battery orders that could cause another bottleneck when GHL tries to manage its supply?

Am I being negative? I'll shut up now. But I'm ordering more batteries.

 

[vapognak]

I also have a lot of concern about the real cause behind the hot back end.
If it's not because of a faulty battery, would it be possible that the body of the GH fails to drive correctly the electrical current, resulting in the heat in the back end? or the back end itself might be the culprit?
I hope HL would have the answer, as for now they just have sent me back my unit from warranty, with a still hot back end...

 

[JoeMama]

I also have a lot of concern about the real cause behind the hot back end.
If it's not because of a faulty battery, would it be possible that the body of the GH fails to drive correctly the electrical current, resulting in the heat in the back end? or the back end itself might be the culprit?
I hope HL would have the answer, as for now they just have sent me back my unit from warranty, with a still hot back end...

I guess it could be the battery, I don't know. But if it is, I would expect it to behave consistently - that is, always making the backend hot. If the backend isn't consistent (taking into account the varying backend heat versus battery drain), then maybe it begs more questions. ...Which is one of the things this forum has been great for, with its many detailed threads and a developing Fixes Resource.

Since I haven't experienced a hot "back end", to be clear, we're talking about the button-end, but is it the temp dial that seems to sink the most heat? The clip becomes too hot to handle?

 

[Kalessin]

I guess it could be the battery, I don't know. But if it is, I would expect it to behave consistently - that is, always making the backend hot. If the backend isn't consistent (taking into account the varying backend heat versus battery drain), then maybe it begs more questions. ...Which is one of the things this forum has been great for, with its many detailed threads and a developing Fixes Resource.

Since I haven't experienced a hot "back end", to be clear, we're talking about the button-end, but is it the temp dial that seems to sink the most heat? The clip becomes too hot to handle?

The heat that builds up in mine is in the backend clip ring. The actual dial I don't believe I've felt get warm

 

[vapognak]

The heat that builds up in mine is in the backend clip ring. The actual dial I don't believe I've felt get warm

same here