Discontinued The Grasshopper

[Hogni]

Game over? That not, but just a realistic and pragmatic precaution without any illusions.

 

[GrandWazoo]

Game over? That not, but just a realistic and pragmatic precaution without any illusions.

Let's hope for a real route change ...

 

[DelaSheck]

I am scheduled to get mine back tonight. I had my 3rd RMA received back to me about about a month ago, and like you, it didn't work properly, just wispy clouds. I had to send it right back.

I'm not exactly confident it will work and expect I will have to send it back again. I did love this thing for the quick hit ability.

Well, I received it last night and WOW, I forgot what a beast this thing is when it's working properly. It's making huge clouds at 3 (after the first draw). Though after using my Tera and M for the past few months, I have forgotten how damn hot the vapor is. I will have to get used to it again. I'm not able to take more than 5-10 second draws as the heat builds up too much plus it's just too much vapor for me to take.

It's still a perfect vape for out and about to have in your pocket - a quick hit and boom, done in 10 seconds. Obviously, I still don't trust it but only time will tell. The Tera (with Arizer bent stem) will still be my first option with the Grasshopper being my quick option or on the go. The M is also the quick option when I want to get extra faded. I think the M is the hardest hitting while using the least flower, it always surprises me.

I'm sure there's no consensus on this, but I'd like to ask what most people jump to when they've given up on their GH.

I've had one of mine in warranty repair for the better part of a year, and now my second one has died (lights go straight to blue). HL sent a "fix" to try (compressed air over the heat sensor) but it did no good. I suppose I've nothing to lose by sending it in for a warranty repair, but realistically, what I can expect is not to have anything for an indeterminate time. That just strikes me as ridiculous. I think we're all agreed that there's nothing like a GH when it works, but since they _mostly don't_ I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts about a reasonable second choice. Thanks!

It's not out yet, but Lil' Bud Elite is coming out soon, from what I have read it's the same as the Lil' Bud, but it's regulated. I would love it, but it's a bit too pricey at $300 (though as they are all hand made, I would say it's worth it).

 

[Vaporific]

I'm sure there's no consensus on this, but I'd like to ask what most people jump to when they've given up on their GH.

Fury 2! Nuff said.

 

[newVaper420]

I'm sure there's no consensus on this, but I'd like to ask what most people jump to when they've given up on their GH.

I've had one of mine in warranty repair for the better part of a year, and now my second one has died (lights go straight to blue). HL sent a "fix" to try (compressed air over the heat sensor) but it did no good. I suppose I've nothing to lose by sending it in for a warranty repair, but realistically, what I can expect is not to have anything for an indeterminate time. That just strikes me as ridiculous. I think we're all agreed that there's nothing like a GH when it works, but since they _mostly don't_ I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts about a reasonable second choice. Thanks!

I use my cloud evo for home use and a mighty for on the go.

 

[elykpeace]

Fury 2 is a disappointment after owning the GH. And did not like how huge the mighty was. The lil bud is nice but the lil bud elite will have the regulation in order to get consistent results.

We need this guy to make a vape and then bless with gift upon gift.. but wait there's more!

 

[Baron23]

Wow that sucks .

Out of curiosity, does hopper labs comment on this thread ?

Hopper Labs doesn't comment anywhere. Hopper Labs does not, IMO, directly engage in conversations with their customers.....they just publish BS month blog emails.

I had customers....if we didn't listen and discuss with our customers we would have been very quickly out of busines.

These guys need to take Business 101 at the local community college....I hardly know what more to say about them.

If you think I'm too harsh on them...check out what others think as reflected in their BBB profile:

https://www.bbb.org/us/co/boulder/profile/online-retailer/grasshopper-labs-llc-0885-90245195

 

[nonbeliever]

I'm sure there's no consensus on this, but I'd like to ask what most people jump to when they've given up on their GH.

I've had one of mine in warranty repair for the better part of a year, and now my second one has died (lights go straight to blue). HL sent a "fix" to try (compressed air over the heat sensor) but it did no good. I suppose I've nothing to lose by sending it in for a warranty repair, but realistically, what I can expect is not to have anything for an indeterminate time. That just strikes me as ridiculous. I think we're all agreed that there's nothing like a GH when it works, but since they _mostly don't_ I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts about a reasonable second choice. Thanks!

I love my LIl Bud.

 

[ArthurJ]

The firewood 5 has become my portable of choice. Very compact and stealthy, easy to use, good flavor and nice clouds.

 

[vapviking]

I would consider a Splinter, Splinter Z or a Lil Bud. All are great but not in a pen format. My Grasshopper works perfectly these days. Run it on 5 as long as I want and no combustion. Still I prefer those other vapes. The Grasshopper gets used regularly and is enjoyed immensely but I don't agree that a working Hopper is necessary the best. It's up there but there are others.

Thanks for these suggestions. I just pre-ordered a Splinter V1 at a very reasonable price (I found a huge discount coupon!).
I like the ideas of supplying your own (regulated) power, 4 sec heat-up, full convection, glass mp, and potential for great reliability.

 

[newVaper420]

The firewood 5 has become my portable of choice. Very compact and stealthy, easy to use, good flavor and nice clouds.

I like the way this one looks... but wouldn’t be good for a novice user. I may get one myself though, lmao! :-)

 

[pootsforjesus]

Man, this company...

I’ve been trying to get a refund for the steel case since the beginning of September and I’m still getting minimal communication from their side.

 

[elykpeace]

Ppal dispute and they will prob get back to you within the week @pootsforjesus

I had the SS case and charger pre-ordered and tried getting a refund after a while and withing a day after disputing they had enough fire under their butt to make it happen finally?

 

[newVaper420]

Does anyone else feel like this company isn’t going to make it much longer? Can’t ship accessories. Can’t ship things in a timely manner. Etc. Etc.

I have absolutely no knowledge, but doesn’t seem good when you send back customers dented parts that weren’t theirs originally, and shit.

Anyhow, what they should do, seriously, is hire Seibo from VapeXhale. Wow, he got rid of his FC account. That’s surprising.

Anyhow that’s just my 2 cents.

 

[elykpeace]

Does anyone else feel like this company isn’t going to make it much longer? Can’t ship accessories. Can’t ship things in a timely manner. Etc. Etc.

I have absolutely no knowledge, but doesn’t seem good when you send back customers dented parts that weren’t theirs originally, and shit.

Anyhow, what they should do, seriously, is hire Seibo from VapeXhale. Wow, he got rid of his FC account. That’s surprising.

Anyhow that’s just my 2 cents.

Seibo is moving the company it's now Hanu labs https://hanulabs.com/


Maybe he is making a new handle now?


I need to get a cloud Evo to compare. If the GH is comparable to Evo in clouds and flavor it would be good to have a plug in hopper

 

[newVaper420]

Seibo is moving the company it's now Hanu labs https://hanulabs.com/


Maybe he is making a new handle now?


I need to get a cloud Evo to compare. If the GH is comparable to Evo in clouds and flavor it would be good to have a plug in hopper

My grasshopper (at least this one I got, tastes like shit), even at a level before 2.

My Evo is king. Always has been, always will be :-). The flavor is top notch in the Evo.

Not a big fan of the Hanu Stone. Looks like a Pax Era type thing where they sell pre-filled carts. Doesn't help in non legal states.

 

[elykpeace]

My grasshopper (at least this one I got, tastes like shit), even at a level before 2.

My Evo is king. Always has been, always will be :-). The flavor is top notch in the Evo.

Not a big fan of the Hanu Stone. Looks like a Pax Era type thing where they sell pre-filled carts. Doesn't help in non legal states.

Bummer. On 2?! I have 3 now because I couldn't stand not having mine when it went off to be warrantied

Might ask santa for an Evo

 

[newVaper420]

Yeap, I have my shit on 1.5 and it's still hot :-(.

 

[elykpeace]

You think it's an oven or backend issue?

 

[newVaper420]

You think it's an oven or backend issue?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Sorry for laughing. Before this one they sent me, they had sent me 3 bodies and a dented backend (not the same backend I sent). Now, the backend is even more dented, and it's still the same (because I used sand paper on the contact as recommended here), and it came back exactly the same. So this is body 4, and the same dented backend.

Who knows what the hell is going on. The lights flicker every time i take a hit. I have no doubt it's gonna break again.

The funny thing is, 6 years ago, this story is very similar to what happened to my Cloud. However, the company really really really turned it around, and they made the Evo which is stupid reliable. I had mine for 4 years and it never broke (except when I broke the bamboo myself). I bought myself another one, and got the other one fixed, so now I have two Evo's.

The Grasshopper used to be good for me, but even this last one I got, doesn't seem the same, or right. I don't know, maybe I'm just completely disillusioned already.

 

[brewbeer]

I wonder if they arent having cash flow problems. Slow shipping new orders, slow RMAs, slow accessories, re-use of used parts?

 

[mulciber]

I wonder if they arent having cash flow problems. Slow shipping new orders, slow RMAs, slow accessories, re-use of used parts?

Right now they seem to have trouble even answering simple mail. I'm afraid it's not looking good for them at the moment.

In fact, I just picked up a MIQRO because it's unclear I'll have anything ultraportable for a while with 2 GHs in the great beyond.

 

[newVaper420]

I’ve got to imagine with a product as unreliable as this, and with the lifetime warranty, they have to be drowning in “free” work essentially.

 

[Vaporific]

Right now they seem to have trouble even answering simple mail. I'm afraid it's not looking good for them at the moment.

In fact, I just picked up a MIQRO because it's unclear I'll have anything ultraportable for a while with 2 GHs in the great beyond.

Ditto - they're under water in more ways than one. Their lack of customer service and response and many are still reporting issues with new and RMA'd units doesn't bode well. IMO the PFE was an offering to those initially complaining about draw resistance yet I liked the design and aesthetics of the standard frontend and it's more stealthy looking than the PFE. Oh, and HL never posts on here too which means they're too busy or ignorant, or both, to the user community - hence why I say "under water" with several layers of meaning.

And my Ti is in their (RMA) hands so I commiserate with many of you. And I'd like a new portable vape too as a backup; I serendipitously picked up a Fury clone literally minutes after my Hopper died (I was very lucky too just prior to a trip to a legal state). I've been eyeing the Miqro, AirVape X and perhaps the Fierce as a backup and didn't pull the trigger on any Black Friday sales. Miss my Hopper - when it worked well it worked well but it was largely inconsistent over 2+ years - but love my Fury clone and a solid backup would be nice. How's the Miqro?

 

[mulciber]

How's the Miqro?

Too soon to draw a proper conclusion, but so far it is fulfilling everything I looked to the GH for. Here's the ironic thing - I did a lot of research, as one does, and Da Vinci seems to have a reputation for build and reliability that is 180 degrees opposed to that of Hopper Labs'. It is engineered absolutely brilliantly. If the internals continue to match the build and function, and there's every suggestion they will, it will be outstanding!