Discontinued The Grasshopper

JCat

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Yup. Actually when I read your post about going on a trip with the Hopper and no back-up I thought that was pretty adventurous. The Might is a typical german product: not sexy at all, a bit lame but very reliable and well engineered. The capsule system is another great plus for a travel vape although I prefer the crafty for stealthy public use. The crafty plus an 8 AH powerbank should get anyone thru a day and is even easier to carry than a Mighty.

My RMAd Hopper works fine as ever but I'd never, ever trust it to be my only option under ANY circumstances.
I'd never ever trust ANY vape to be my only option under ANY circumstance :)
 

newVaper420

Vapor Enthusiast
Yea I know I was being adventurous. I didn’t want to take the Mighty on the plane and risk it getting taken away. But next time, I might.

But in hindsight I should just use these 510 cart pens and be done with it.

I wonder if these dispensaries sell Dynavap. Ehh screw it. I only have an 1/8th. I’ll just smoke it and lesson learned LOL.
 

JCat

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Have you been introduced to any Dynavap products? All you need is a $60 M and a heat source. It's the Survivalist's Vaporizer of Choice-you can find them in bomb shelters all over North America.
Bowl is too small, and lighters can still die; I stand by my statement, always bring a backup :)

Edit: I've also lost a vape before ... so that's the other possibility!

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Bowl is too small, and lighters can still die; I stand by my statement, always bring a backup :)
The Crafty plus powerbank would be my best bet, if I had to.
Crafty's can die too, but yes ... those are actually both things that are always in my travel it.
 

Hammahead

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Crafty's can die too

Most (european) dealers reckon the Storz + Bickel products as most reliable with the lowest return rates. The impression that there are lots of broken Craftys out there is probably based on the fact that for a long time they were the way most sold vaporizers worldwide. So even a very low failure rate will result in a large number of warranty cases.
 

newVaper420

Vapor Enthusiast
They are going to send me a replacement part but won’t be here till I get home. So no hopper during trip.

One dispensary has VapeXhale clouds. I’m gonna go there, buy a gram and try to vape a bunch at lunch LOL

Edit: also I gotta pay to send the broken part back. LOL
 
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JCat

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Most (european) dealers reckon the Storz + Bickel products as most reliable with the lowest return rates. The impression that there are lots of broken Craftys out there is probably based on the fact that for a long time they were the way most sold vaporizers worldwide. So even a very low failure rate will result in a large number of warranty cases.
Yeah ... I agree that they are relatively reliable, but you can have a thermal fuse go at any point, which would make it dead in the water. Also running with weaker batteries causes high current flow at some connection points which causes corrosion and increased heat and eventual failure over time. Generally devices with lower # of hours can be counted on, but as you get up there in # of hours, or if you like to run your batteries dead, or if you run at really high temps, all of these things increase risk of failure.

There is a reason the Crafty is my #1 backup that I bring with me, but if I'm going to be gone more than a day, I would always make sure to have multiple backups so perhaps my baseline of what is required in terms of backups might be a little crazy ... :lol: ...

On another note, my 2nd replacement Ti body is currently on it's way, so with any luck this will work better than the "new and improved" SS and Ti units I've already received (which work as well as any hoppers I've owned to-date ... ie. they don't really work right most of the time and need to be fiddled with and sent back ASAP for warranty ... hopefully warranty # 15 is the luck one!--actually not sure if I'm at 15 yet, or maybe a little past, but I know it's up there ... I know I'm at well over $200 in shipping costs sending them units for RMA ...)
 

elykpeace

exVASted
Has anyone re wrapped a ghb2 battery ? I have 18650 wraps but I'ma guessing they won't shrink enough? What size wraps do you get?
 
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GrandWazoo

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Have you been introduced to any Dynavap products? All you need is a $60 M and a heat source. It's the Survivalist's Vaporizer of Choice-you can find them in bomb shelters all over North America.
100 % agree . Any electronic device can stop working , for several reasons . The OmniVap now is my daily driver , if the GH comes back from RMA good , otherwise I got no problems at all. It's super portable ( 6 cm ) weights nothing and WORKS GREAT . And naturally have no issues at all , finally freedom from daily battery charging , very efficent , 0.1 four or five great hits in four/five sessions, no smell . I passed two 15 days Holydays abroad with one or both my vapes out , no more. The only stupid thing could happen this year is to lose it, it's so small .
 
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Cheesequake

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Dynavap vapor quality is significantly worse than most (if not all recent) electornic vapes and you still have to deal with butane and lighters not working constantly. I've yet to find a reasonably priced butane lighter that will last any significant amount of time. The striker always goes out.
 
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Hjalmark

Oldest boy alive
Dynavap vapor quality is significantly worse than most (if not all recent) electornic vapes and you still have to deal with butane and lighters not working constantly. I've yet to find a reasonably priced butane lighter that will last any significant amount of time. The striker always goes out.
Tried Stickybrick ? I dont think Dynavap will ever be for me because how the bowl and heat up works but also never wanted a butane vape until I tried the brick and now I wanna get more

just hate how A) loud they are B) how loud they are
 

Hogni

Honi soit qui mal y pense
Yep, the SBJ is awesome. But CS was looking for a lighter not a butane vape, right?
 
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GrandWazoo

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Dynavap vapor quality is significantly worse than most (if not all recent) electornic vapes and you still have to deal with butane and lighters not working constantly.

This is not a fact , is your opinion . I got both and found vapor quality significantly the same , both top quality. About the deal I got with butane and lighters , bought one double fire at the local hardware shop for 3 € , works perfect , last one week and then I charge it in circa ten seconds . I like GH so much when it works but I'm leaving for Holydays and I repeat : No thanks , even if I had it I'd take in group with a more reliable one .
 

Squiby

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Dynavap vapor quality is significantly worse than most (if not all recent) electornic vapes and you still have to deal with butane and lighters not working constantly. I've yet to find a reasonably priced butane lighter that will last any significant amount of time. The striker always goes out.
just hate how A) loud they are B) how loud they are

I consider my Vapcaps indestructible. They have been finely milled to very tight tolerances. They are fantastic vapes with a model to suit every pocket book, ranging from $60 to $190. Tiny and efficient, these vapes will still be working when the lights go out, off grid or when camping. These are lifetime vapes with no parts to fail. Everyone should have at least one as part of a prepper stash or as a daily driver. Beautiful, efficient and built to last.

You can heat your Vapcap with just about any heat source, such as a Bic lighter or candle, a jet lighter, a campfire stick, solar heater, or Induction Heater, or even a stove element.

But regarding your quest for a reliable lighter, I have had very good luck with the Aomia jet lighters. They are inexpensive, basically the same size and shape as the Vapcap and reliable. I've had mine for over a year with no issues using it daily. The ignition is a flint wheel. Very functional. When the flint finally wears out, pop in a new one. A flint ignition ensures a silent flame.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cigarette-Cigar-Butane-Gas-Lighter-Cylinder-Flint-Wheel-Windproof-Jet-Flame/162133027847?hash=item25bfe1ac07:g:LRsAAOSwq61anRdQ&_sacat=0&_nkw=flint+jet+lighter&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313
 

Cheesequake

Free Men Don't Ask
This is not a fact , is your opinion . I got both and found vapor quality significantly the same , both top quality. About the deal I got with butane and lighters , bought one double fire at the local hardware shop for 3 € , works perfect , last one week and then I charge it in circa ten seconds . I like GH so much when it works but I'm leaving for Holydays and I repeat : No thanks , even if I had it I'd take in group with a more reliable one .
It isn't my opinion that the vapor from a dynavap is significantly lower quality than from a Grasshopper or most other recently released electric portables. Anyone who knows anything about vapor knows that is a fact. Now you may prefer lower quality vapor but that isn't what we're discussing.

It's kind of like comparing a Lamborghini and a Civic. Sure there are a few people that will genuinely prefer the Civic but the Lamborghini is an objectively higher quality experience.
 
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JCat

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This is not a fact , is your opinion . I got both and found vapor quality significantly the same , both top quality .
Just curious .... you can polish off 0.3 to 0.4g in 2 bowls/4-6 hits in less than 5 minutes including loading, unloading, and cleaning? Because that is what a working Hopper does for me ... I should definitely pick up a dynavap if it can do this for me ... I was under the impression it wouldn’t work for larger and back to back bowls ... where it could quickly be done in a setting like standing outside a hotel for instance ...
 

Squiby

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Just curious .... you can polish off 0.3 to 0.4g in 2 bowls/4-6 hits in less than 5 minutes including loading, unloading, and cleaning? Because that is what a working Hopper does for me ... I should definitely pick up a dynavap if it can do this for me ... I was under the impression it wouldn’t work for larger and back to back bowls ... where it could quickly be done in a setting like standing outside a hotel for instance ...

The Vapcap is very efficient with bud and I get where I want to be on much less material than with other vapes.

You can load, heat, toke, repeat x2 and dump your ABV inside a minute if you heat with a quad jet lighter, which will bring you to toking temps in about 4 seconds. I have no idea why you could not load as many back to back bowls as you like. The tip can hold about .075 grams per load. Closer to .1 gms if your bud is on the dry side. I maintain a lower tolerance and one session for me is about .015 which I vape every few hours throughout the day. But the Vapcap is very efficient and you may find you need less bud than you use now to get the same effects. You can easily finish a bowl in one continuous heat and toke if you wish. It's a manual vape so your results depends on your ability to control your outcome. Not everyone can or wants to drive a manual.

Sorry for the off topic response. Full disclosure; I don't have a Grasshopper, nor have it tried one. Bit I've read about the hot mp and the hot vapor that is produced and I believe that the GH would be too harsh for my sensitive lungs. Plus there is the reliability factor...
 
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fogbank

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It seems there is a decent demand for the bodies. I didn’t understand the appeal initially but I am a fan of having a backup so if people want to buy bodies they might as well sell them.

I have 3 Hoppers in rotation, plus a fourth "all new" Ti that I purchased in February.

All 3 of my Hoppers are working well, but I want the latest hardware upgrades. I don't want to open RMAs for perfectly working Hoppers, so I ordered a couple of extra bodies.

Seems like a good way to upgrade without the trouble of sending Hoppers in for unnecessary "repairs".
 

JCat

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The Vapcap is very efficient with bud and I get where I want to be on much less material than with other vapes.

You can load, heat, toke, repeat x2 and dump your ABV inside a minute if you heat with a quad jet lighter, which will bring you to toking temps in about 4 seconds. I have no idea why you could not load as many back to back bowls as you like. The tip can hold about .075 grams per load. Closer to .1 gms if your bud is on the dry side. I maintain a lower tolerance and one session for me is about .015 which I vape every few hours throughout the day. But the Vapcap is very efficient and you may find you need less bud than you use now to get the same effects. You can easily finish a bowl in one continuous heat and toke if you wish. It's a manual vape so your results depends on your ability to control your outcome. Not everyone can or wants to drive a manual.

Sorry for the off topic response. Full disclosure; I don't have a Grasshopper, nor have it tried one. Bit I've read about the hot mp and the hot vapor that is produced and I believe that the GH would be too harsh for my sensitive lungs. Plus there is the reliability factor...
See the Hopper I pretty much always use through water, or at the very least with a glass piece without water, to get huge bong style hits (ie. kill .15-.2g in 2-3 hits). This is the purpose it serves for me when travelling. .075 x2 would leave me unsatisfied almost all the time, ... I would require minimum of .075 x4 unless it was just a top-up to a session I had had <30 minutes earlier. Even with a Hopper I find 0.15 x2 to be insufficient and often find myself doing that once, and then again 15-20 minutes later. I've owned >40 vapes over the last 7-8 years, and ALL portables (except the Grasshopper), leave me unsatisfied, to the point where I feel like the amount of time it takes me to get there with session style vapes I could pretty much vape constantly, as by the time I've gone through the amount of material I need to get where I want to be, it's almost time to start over! Maintenance and convenience of portable concentrate/pen style vapes I just havn't found a winner yet (although I did use my Quartz Quest w/ my Zapubler a bunch while on vacation ... I'm sure I went through about 3g of rosin over the course of a week that way.)

I know there are a lot that favour micro-dosing and consuming smaller amounts, but I find for my situation and medical needs, 1.5-3g per day, or the equivalent in concentrates is what I require to stay balanced, productive, healthy, and happy. Over the last 15-20 years, this is always where I balance out. Less is not as effective, and disaster soon follows, and more just wastes.

To consume 1.5-3g @.075 per bowl, that would be 20-40 bowls per day ... that is a lot of packing/unpacking to do!!!!! At any rate, a response that suggests that I may find I need less, suggests to me that this would likely not be a vape for me :)

Honestly, apart from a working Hopper, the only things that I've actually found sufficient are heavy hitting desktops such as the EVO, VROD, Supreme v3; various e-nail dab rigs also do the job but as far as ease of maintenance, even in that area the only thing I've found that truly suits me are the SiC dishes.

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What thread is this again :doh:
I know I've gone off on a tangent here ... but I am going in to great detail on how the Hopper truly is irreplaceable for the niche that it serves ... unless there is something else out there equivalent that I am not aware of ... (I don't think the dynavap is it ...)
 

MoltenTiger

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The Vapcap is very efficient with bud and I get where I want to be on much less material than with other vapes.

You can load, heat, toke, repeat x2 and dump your ABV inside a minute if you heat with a quad jet lighter, which will bring you to toking temps in about 4 seconds. I have no idea why you could not load as many back to back bowls as you like. The tip can hold about .075 grams per load. Closer to .1 gms if your bud is on the dry side. I maintain a lower tolerance and one session for me is about .015 which I vape every few hours throughout the day. But the Vapcap is very efficient and you may find you need less bud than you use now to get the same effects. You can easily finish a bowl in one continuous heat and toke if you wish. It's a manual vape so your results depends on your ability to control your outcome. Not everyone can or wants to drive a manual.

Sorry for the off topic response. Full disclosure; I don't have a Grasshopper, nor have it tried one. Bit I've read about the hot mp and the hot vapor that is produced and I believe that the GH would be too harsh for my sensitive lungs. Plus there is the reliability factor...
FWIW a hot VapCap hit is as uncomfortable to me as a direct hit from the hopper. As such I avoid using both like that opting instead to strictly use through water. I prefer the GH too, better temp control, longer lasting hits and such greater flavour. There's much more even and constant/consistant heat application which really shines in signature between the two.

Both are excellent vapes and are worthy additions to any line up. Even if the vapes are already in the line up, multiple does make sense for both units.


Edit: sorry Stu I jumped right on that without reading through. I think its worth saying though even still
 
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