Discontinued The Grasshopper

[deadlytoaster]

Anyone keen on maybe buying my Bronze Ti hopper from pre-order days? The anodizing is a bit worn but it's one of those rare pre-order units that is actually reliable. About to pull the trigger on a Haze Square - suits my needs more.

Unless anyone has an idea for pods for the Hopper. Maybe just take some pipe screens and bend them around a pencil to make a makeshift container? I'm about to do a few festivals and long excursions and the convenience of a pod system is what I need the most now.

 

[btka]

Anyone keen on maybe buying my Bronze Ti hopper from pre-order days? The anodizing is a bit worn but it's one of those rare pre-order units that is actually reliable. About to pull the trigger on a Haze Square - suits my needs more.

Unless anyone has an idea for pods for the Hopper. Maybe just take some pipe screens and bend them around a pencil to make a makeshift container? I'm about to do a few festivals and long excursions and the convenience of a pod system is what I need the most now.

http://fuckcombustion.com/forums/classifieds.29/

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

No other vape would be as quick and discreet enough to give me the confidence to use in that situation.

Only thing I find quicker is a properly working elevape. Sadly takes a lot of time skill luck to get them to work. Companies gone so no support.

 

[deadlytoaster]

Yeah was thinking of posting on the classifieds, but I'm still so hesitant to get rid of my hopper. :/

Wish I could A/B test the Hopper and Square before i decide.

 

[btka]

Wish I could A/B test the Hopper and Square before i decide.

then wait... good idea... if you have the funds...

 

[deadlytoaster]

pfft get out of here with your logic...

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Wish I could A/B test the Hopper and Square before i decide.

Need somewhere like the cloud vapor store. They do trial but price's are high.

 

[Rel2018]

How do I get informed once my order has shipped ? Does the status on the site change or do I get an email ? Also, is there a tracking number ?
( Paid for USPS priority to Europe )
Thanks

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

I received my repaired Bronze Ti yesterday and have run one VERY disappointing bowl through it.

The damn thing runs cold now.

I have to put it all the way up to 5 to get any vapor and my AVB is fully green when no more vapor is coming from the device. Before its failure I thought my GH temps were perfect. I would run at 4.2 on the dial and get thick hot vapor and still have up to level 5 to finish off a load if I wanted. AVB was nicely browned.

I, and I believe most other GH fans, love the device because its a hard hitting, can't over power it, vapor engine. I sure as fuck don't need a GH that's a light sipper with green AVB.

THIS ^^ is what took them 13 weeks? sigh

I plan to try again tonight, run through all batteries (yes, battery last night was fresh) and just get more confirmation.

Then its time to do a polite, professional, tap dance on Hopper Labs head!

I guess to sum it up, if this is how all GH's will work going forward, I will throw them in a draw to collect dust. This level of performance renders the device, to me, useless.

Aaaarrrgggghhhh!!

Your RMA took about as long as mine. I thought for sure you would get a good one back. How can these clowns not check this stuff? My RMA unit is thus far overwhelmingly good. I thought the company may have finally turned a corner. Imo they have disgraced themselves. They repeatedly show the vaping community that they have no honor.

 

[Hogni]

Are there any reviews on defective new/RMAed devices with the new tech aside FC? Maybe Reddit?
And what's the reason for malfunctions? Are new tech parts misconstructed or is it just a question of bad assembling or QC by GHL?
End of next week I get my new Ti. I fear the worst.....

 

[Hammahead]

How do I get informed once my order has shipped ?

I actually got notified by the german customs there was a packet for me. Haven't received it yet, so I don't know if there was an invoice/declaration attached to it. It has apparently shipped more than a month ago but my account still says it's unshipped. I have contacted HL in this case but only got truly useless (and clueless) answers, not even a confirmation like "Yup, it's been shipped". They really make it hard to defend them.

 

[MoltenTiger]

I thought mine was running a bit cold at first. It still is, compared to what is possible. I also wasn't used to convection after months off using mostly the Sub. I have a Tubo now, and the hopper is on par, though I run my Tubo at 225, 230 from a cold start. My GH seems to fairly reach 210°. There's a pretty fine line with coil calibration where minimal change causes a big difference, as you can accurately adjust with the Tubo to see. Over time my hopper seems to have settled and it's now running much hotter more consistently than I first thought. I saw some discussion on reddit about this, referring to the heater taking a time to burn in, so perhaps there's something to that..
I did get from factory off-gassing during initial burn offs, but the bud I had at the time was mids. Don't bother with mediocre, basically.

I'm running some cheese berry through my HT at the moment and the vapour is pouring out, glass is getting milky and there's something to the flavour and efficacy combo that I haven't matched with the Tubo.

Where the Tubo is clearly better is with rapid firing chambers back to back, as the GH without the feeder is a bit fiddly to do so.
But with bud like this it's just not needed, and I have basically stuffed up the last few 15 minute run times with the Tubo as I simply can't consume at that rate. As a one hitter, I prefer the hopper. It brings me more OG cheese and juicy fruit flavours, so I'm loving the entourage possible with the terpene profile being so intact whilst the vapour is at a super high density. Truly the best of the best in terms of experience.
The airflow on the Tubo though is unreal compared to the hopper, it makes the hopper seem like a VapCap to itself, the difference it exhibits between it and the Tubo is that notable.

Without question the hopper is the king of ultra portability, on par with pax yet disqualifying it on smell, performance and practability ranks.
My Tubo X is mostly limited to a portable home vape.
With the combination of the GH, Tubo and Sub and the lifetime warranty, and general durability/repairability respectively, I have completely covered all grounds intended and now consider combustion entirely redundant.

Can't ask for much more, I finish every day with time spent with one of these devices and it's working really well.

The key interest I have in the hopper is it's performance and it's size. When the heater is working, it's insanely great.
3 weeks of use has me as happy as ever, it has been worth everything to behold the hopper in its full fledged glory.

If these guys recover from this ongoing huge issue, which they probably will, they genuinely deserve it. No qualms whatsoever, nothing compares, can't complain over spilt milk

 

[Cheesequake]

My blue Ti runs cooler than any of my previous hoppers. It can still fully extract a bowl in one hit but the ABV comes out much lighter than my others. Curious to see how the stainless steel does when I get it back tomorrow.

 

[wkndwarrior]

My blue Ti runs cooler than any of my previous hoppers. It can still fully extract a bowl in one hit but the ABV comes out much lighter than my others. Curious to see how the stainless steel does when I get it back tomorrow.

Great insight! I really want to try out the hopper now that its a little more stable. It just seems like the perfect design/form factor.

 

[johnnyCanuck]

Yeah was thinking of posting on the classifieds, but I'm still so hesitant to get rid of my hopper.
Wish I could A/B test the Hopper and Square before i decide.

I have the Haze Square for the past two/three weeks. It’s ok. Super convenient and fast heating but it doesn’t hit nearly as hard as the GH.

Finally got shipping notice on my Jan RMA on Monday and I’m almost anxiously waiting for it to be in my hands again if that’s any indication to you.

 

[deadlytoaster]

Hmmm I'm going to hit up my favorite headshop for some pipe screens then, see if I can make some jank ass baskets then for ez reloading! Maybe buy a PFE and some GHB2 batteries too then

 

[YetAnotherUsername]

I recieved my RMA from December, a Ti unit. Happy to report so far so good, I really like v2 charger and unit. Screen is different, the charger works without hassle and the heater is just as good as I recalled.

I forgot what pure convection is like. I had to clean my mouthpiece screen really good to get enough air flowing through herb. Back to milking my glass, thanks Hopper Labs!

I use roughly 5x less plant with GH compared to Crafty, I love on demand heat... How about y'all?

 

[Baron23]

Ok, still trying to get my RMA returned GH working properly....or at least to verify that it is indeed running cool.

Last night, known good herb with same grind and dryness as used with the GH before its RMA. Right, I KNOW that this is not a MJ issue. Its the vape.

So, load .1 g or so as I always do...with a NV Pax Loading Tool and Delta 3D funnel. This has always yielded a great load for convection.

On the FC-188 14 mm Mobius knockoff via a PFE so I can draw my balls off and get the best of of this GH as possible.

Temp set at L5. At max. AT MAX TEMP!! (arrgghhh).

First draw, nothing. Bit of taste but nothing visible.

Second draw - very wispy vapor, and remember I'm going through a WP and drawing long and hard. In the past I would milk with this set up from the first draw.

Third draw - was ok. Not a lung buster. Just an ok draw and again, I'm at L5. I have no head room to raise temps for better extraction.

Fourth draw - extremely wispy nothing really and nothing thereafter.

Here is the AVB. Now, its looks a LOT more brown in this pic than in person. Camera type, compression, uploading to 3rd party hosting svc, display monitor response...all of these make accurate color questionable. But this really was very green.

Put the AVB into my EVO and got a nice huge cloud. Just the one but this is an EVO and it was a really big cloud. Enough that I would be pissed if I had to toss it as spent in the GH.

What do you guys think....would you go back to Hopper and with complaint and return it again.

My view at this point is if this is as good as it gets, then I will throw it in a drawer. But I am very interested in how you guys see this situation.

Thanks

 

[YetAnotherUsername]

How long are your sessions and is your screen clean? Do you inhale slowly? It's nice with a piece so you can see when it gets cloudier and cloudier. The key is not to overpack, because for the hopper to work good you need to either 1) pack it loosely, I do two twirls into my grinder 2) pack it super tight, i mean the whole chamber packed down. The latter is really hard to pull of, but the point is that it's kinda crap in the middle. A Crafty, for example, is a convection/conduction vape, so it will heat constantly on the surface. Here if the airflow is anything but perfect you will get a sub-optimum performance. This device definitely has a learning curve.

 

[btka]

Ok, still trying to get my RMA returned GH working properly....or at least to verify that it is indeed running cool.

Last night, known good herb with same grind and dryness as used with the GH before its RMA. Right, I KNOW that this is not a MJ issue. Its the vape.

So, load .1 g or so as I always do...with a NV Pax Loading Tool and Delta 3D funnel. This has always yielded a great load for convection.

On the FC-188 14 mm Mobius knockoff via a PFE so I can draw my balls off and get the best of of this GH as possible.

Temp set at L5. At max. AT MAX TEMP!! (arrgghhh).

First draw, nothing. Bit of taste but nothing visible.

Second draw - very wispy vapor, and remember I'm going through a WP and drawing long and hard. In the past I would milk with this set up from the first draw.

Third draw - was ok. Not a lung buster. Just an ok draw and again, I'm at L5. I have no head room to raise temps for better extraction.

Fourth draw - extremely wispy nothing really and nothing thereafter.

Here is the AVB. Now, its looks a LOT more brown in this pic than in person. Camera type, compression, uploading to 3rd party hosting svc, display monitor response...all of these make accurate color questionable. But this really was very green.

Put the AVB into my EVO and got a nice huge cloud. Just the one but this is an EVO and it was a really big cloud. Enough that I would be pissed if I had to toss it as spent in the GH.

What do you guys think....would you go back to Hopper and with complaint and return it again.

My view at this point is if this is as good as it gets, then I will throw it in a drawer. But I am very interested in how you guys see this situation.

Thanks

I had the same problem with one of my hoppers... I did know it was not working correctly because with my other gh the ABV was darker and clouds bigger... I did RMA it... and send it to hopperlabs... it is still at hopperlabs..

 

[Baron23]

How long are your sessions and is your screen clean? Do you inhale slowly? It's nice with a piece so you can see when it gets cloudier and cloudier. The key is not to overpack, because for the hopper to work good you need to either 1) pack it loosely, I do two twirls into my grinder 2) pack it super tight, i mean the whole chamber packed down. The latter is really hard to pull of, but the point is that it's kinda crap in the middle. A Crafty, for example, is a convection/conduction vape, so it will heat constantly on the surface. Here if the airflow is anything but perfect you will get a sub-optimum performance. This device definitely has a learning curve.

The device is perfectly clean...it just came back from Hopper. And I have been using GH's for 18 months so I am familiar with grind, pack, and other usage considerations.

As far as learning curve, my experience to date with GH is just the opposite. If you know how to inhale you know how to use one. I don't find them to be finicky about technique at all. The only finickiness about the GH is how Hopper puts them out with all sorts of inconsistent heating and performance characteristics.

Thanks for the note

 

[btka]

I thought mine was running a bit cold at first. It still is, compared to what is possible. I also wasn't used to convection after months off using mostly the Sub. I have a Tubo now, and the hopper is on par, though I run my Tubo at 225, 230 from a cold start. My GH seems to fairly reach 210°. There's a pretty fine line with coil calibration where minimal change causes a big difference, as you can accurately adjust with the Tubo to see. Over time my hopper seems to have settled and it's now running much hotter more consistently than I first thought. I saw some discussion on reddit about this, referring to the heater taking a time to burn in, so perhaps there's something to that..
I did get from factory off-gassing during initial burn offs, but the bud I had at the time was mids. Don't bother with mediocre, basically.

I'm running some cheese berry through my HT at the moment and the vapour is pouring out, glass is getting milky and there's something to the flavour and efficacy combo that I haven't matched with the Tubo.

this "heater taking a time to burn in" is new to me... someone experienced this...or is it speculation?

 

[Hjalmark]

I was going to talk about rotating the temp dial and such because I felt like the same happened to my 2017 RMA from last year but then suddenly came back to life

I never remember what I decided what solved the problem, but pretty sure I had tried all my batteries before it started running hotter, but then it also started running hotter then ever before and 4 was like the old 5

but thought it was from me just rotating the temp dial back and forth but maybe this new mysteries "heater burn in time"

always space for more "hopper lore"

 

[Cheesequake]

So far the warranty SS is working perfectly. Smooth dial, no flickering, and gets just as hot as it did before I sent it in.

Edit: Holy shit. Temp 5 is scary with this thing. Definitely no combustion but INSTANT thick vapor that looks like you're vaping some concentrate. It's nuts. Almost makes me want to send my blue Ti in now to get the temp bumped up but fuck that.

 

[btka]

I was going to talk about rotating the temp dial and such because I felt like the same happened to my 2017 RMA from last year but then suddenly came back to life

I never remember what I decided what solved the problem, but pretty sure I had tried all my batteries before it started running hotter, but then it also started running hotter then ever before and 4 was like the old 5

but thought it was from me just rotating the temp dial back and forth but maybe this new mysteries "heater burn in time"

always space for more "hopper lore"

haha I know the temp rotating trick but it did not help with my weak heating hopper