Discontinued The Grasshopper

[CarolKing]

Those of you just receiving your units does the regular mouthpiece get too hot after a few consecutive draws?

 

[Bass Vaper]

It didn't for us, no. But again, we were on 2.

 

[zymos]

Those of you just receiving your units does the regular mouthpiece get too hot after a few consecutive draws?

AFAIK (having no personal experience) it just will- it's inherent to the design. But it seems easy enough to just let it cool down for a few minutes between...

 

[paytonpenn]

Only thing that gets hot is the tapered end where the heat actually flows through. Which is expected and understandable. The sides actually stay pretty cool.

 

[Averyminya]

Well said man and you are def a contributor to me keeping my preorder. Like many i have had the itch to cancel after what has happened but after hearing this i can wait it out. It's what i been waiting for and wanting for a long time and will fit in my rotation perfectly. How has battery life been for you ?

I'm glad I can help.

Battery life I think averages just over 2 bowls. For the first time I got 3 fully extracted bowls out of a battery. I also hit my Grasshopper for over 30 seconds on the bong, very often.

As paytonpenn said, only the very tip of the mouthpiece will get very hot. The unit itself may get warm, but not any moreso than the Red setting on the Flowermate, or even the Arizer Air. I've burned myself many more times on the Air.

Consecutive draws beyond 3.5 will render the mouthpiece difficult to hit without a silicone mouthpiece. When you do have the MP, you want a little under half of it in your mouth, otherwise you may burn your lip with hot air. The same thing happens to me with the Air, which is kind of funny since it has a longer vapor path.

I usually use my Hopper on 2.2, 3.2, 4.1, and 5 if I'm feeling like dying . I can get 2-3 hits out of each temperature, but you'll be able to see the differences on each pretty clearly.

 

[Bass Vaper]

I was surprised how small the bowl is. We packed it semi full and it seemed to last forever, and still barely looked golden brown when we dumped it.

I kept putting the clicker end in my mouth. Product of its environment I guess...

 

[TheWhisper]

I've packed 3 loads so far, and that's been enough to last me through the day. The second two were attached to my D020-D. This thing rips.

EDIT: Something I'm noticing is that, while not hard, packing the Hopper without losing material or getting it all over your fingers can be difficult. I'm not sure how I'd do it outside on the move. Any suggestions?

Additionally, when more than half full, it can be hard to empty after the load is done. Just tapping it doesn't work — It sort of clumps together and I have to use a poker to get it out.

 

[EmDeemo]

Those of you just receiving your units does the regular mouthpiece get too hot after a few consecutive draws?

With the way I use it, yes it does, but I could easily change my usage and avoid the issue. That plus the silicon just means I'd have to be careful to avoid the really hot stream of air hitting my lips at high temps.

If I changed my usage slightly, a hot mouthpiece wouldn't happen, I don't think I'd need the silicon in a hurry. I'm finding draw speed, pack etc., usual stuff, makes a difference. As does sticking to the 'turning it off mid way through a toke' rule, so much so that I think it should be part of the instruction leaflet.

I primarily use my d020 and PnP WT knock off though, mostly at a permanent level 5 throughout each bowl.

High temps on this thing are strangely way more tolerable than I'm used to with Lily.

I'm still feeling impressed that the GH is meeting my (admittedly tempered and well read) expectations.

/end unhelpful ramble.

Edit: Feels very classy, exclusive, extravagant and stupid using the Okin as a mouthpiece for the GH. Once is acceptable I think though :-D

 

[Averyminya]

With the way I use it, yes it does, but I could easily change my usage and avoid the issue. That plus the silicon just means I'd have to be careful to avoid the really hot stream of air hitting my lips at high temps.

If I changed my usage slightly, a hot mouthpiece wouldn't happen, I don't think I'd need the silicon in a hurry. I'm finding draw speed, pack etc., usual stuff, makes a difference. As does sticking to the 'turning it off mid way through a toke' rule, so much so that I think it should be part of the instruction leaflet.

I primarily use my d020 and PnP WT knock off though, mostly at a permanent level 5 throughout each bowl.

High temps on this thing are strangely way more tolerable than I'm used to with Lily.

I'm still feeling impressed that the GH is meeting my (admittedly tempered and well read) expectations.

/end unhelpful ramble.

May I ask why you use it at temp 5 for the duration? I like to temp step from 3 to 4.5 and all of those settings milk the same for me. Just a temperature preference?

 

[EmDeemo]

May I ask why you use it at temp 5 for the duration? I like to temp step from 3 to 4.5 and all of those settings milk the same for me. Just a temperature preference?

For the hell of it, speed of killing a bowl, seeing how hot it gets, seeing how to avoid it getting hot while keeping the temp setting and speed of bowl extraction, seeing how long the taste lasts.

Gluttony. Greed. Other things :-)

Mainly for the hell of it though :-)

For regular use, I'll temp step. Also, I'm sometimes putting keif and blobs of rosin in it.

 

[inferno22]

Hello everyone!

Long time lurker and this is my first post. Still figuring out some things out so if I make some posting mistakes please correct me!

So to(hopefully) help out @TheWhisper with her/his question:

EDIT: Something I'm noticing is that, while not hard, packing the Hopper without losing material or getting it all over your fingers can be difficult. I'm not sure how I'd do it outside on the move. Any suggestions?

Delta 3D Studios has some accessories for the Grasshopper on their website, including a loading funnel(http://delta3dstudios.com/grasshopper-loading-funnel/) and a mini stand that is designed to hold the Grasshopper upright while loading(http://delta3dstudios.com/grasshopper-mini-spiral-stand/)

Maybe the funnel would help while you're on the move and the stand could help when you're at home?

 

[Averyminya]

Crazy experience just now guys. I went through an entire bowl in one quick session. 4 and 5. The Hopper got suuuper hot, much much more than normal. I took out the battery (a tad warm), and emptied my AVB. Then, for about a minute and a half I drew air in without the backend and no herb.

Cool. There body was cool, the mouthpiece was cool, when just seconds eariler the metal was hot to the touch.

So, this thing really cools itself down if you air it out, literally, for a minute or two.

Also, I've just been wondering but can't really know I suppose. Does anyone know if it's OK to use a sharpie or something to mark the blue part of the battery? I want to number them or something. At least give me something to tell them apart other than little ink differences lmao.

 

[CG420]

So refrigerated or glycerin cold pack/steel balls could essentially keep the unit cool in between sessions in a matter of a min or two. Looks like an idea just propped up to accomodate with the heat issues.

 

[CarolKing]

Finally some great dialogue other that broken hoppers stories. Glad you guys are happy with your units so far. Hoping for some more great stories and outcomes. Sounds like this thing is a flavor maker.

 

[AJS]

Finally some great dialogue other that broken hoppers stories. Glad you guys are happy with your units so far. Hoping for some more great stories and outcomes. Sounds like this thing is a flavor maker.

I'm hoping it'll be a great partner for our Nanos!

 

[EmDeemo]

Crazy experience just now guys. I went through an entire bowl in one quick session. 4 and 5. The Hopper got suuuper hot, much much more than normal. I took out the battery (a tad warm), and emptied my AVB. Then, for about a minute and a half I drew air in without the backend and no herb.

Cool. There body was cool, the mouthpiece was cool, when just seconds eariler the metal was hot to the touch.

So, this thing really cools itself down if you air it out, literally, for a minute or two.

Yeah, which is meaning here, I think, that a slow draw and turning the unit off relatively early during the draw is yielding nice results. I might just be crazy high tho.

It's working for me how I used to love using my PnP.

 

[garymon]

Something I'm noticing is that, while not hard, packing the Hopper without losing material or getting it all over your fingers can be difficult. I'm not sure how I'd do it outside on the move. Any suggestions?

My wife noticed me spilling herb while filling our Arizer EQ and found a little metal funnel. I think it came with a booze flask for filling it. It is super tiny but it works great. I drop a couple pinches in and then push it through with the Arizer glass pick.

 

[Jack Sprat]

Crazy experience just now guys. I went through an entire bowl in one quick session. 4 and 5. The Hopper got suuuper hot, much much more than normal. I took out the battery (a tad warm), and emptied my AVB. Then, for about a minute and a half I drew air in without the backend and no herb.

Cool. There body was cool, the mouthpiece was cool, when just seconds eariler the metal was hot to the touch.

So, this thing really cools itself down if you air it out, literally, for a minute or two.

Also, I've just been wondering but can't really know I suppose. Does anyone know if it's OK to use a sharpie or something to mark the blue part of the battery? I want to number them or something. At least give me something to tell them apart other than little ink differences lmao.

Marking them shouldn't be a problem. Just don't mark the contact points.

 

[inuhuion]

Does anyone know if it's OK to use a sharpie or something to mark the blue part of the battery? I want to number them or something. At least give me something to tell them apart other than little ink differences lmao.

I used my wife's nail polishes for my MFLB batteries and that's worked like a charm.

 

[Mr. Me2]

I've packed 3 loads so far, and that's been enough to last me through the day. The second two were attached to my D020-D. This thing rips.

EDIT: Something I'm noticing is that, while not hard, packing the Hopper without losing material or getting it all over your fingers can be difficult. I'm not sure how I'd do it outside on the move. Any suggestions?

Additionally, when more than half full, it can be hard to empty after the load is done. Just tapping it doesn't work — It sort of clumps together and I have to use a poker to get it out.

If @Ratchett doesn't have a filling tool yet, I'm sure he will soon. And don't forget about his gh case!

 

[EmDeemo]

Just gone back to Lily for the first time in days. However quick this hopper might be, it's not as quick as Lily is at producing clouds. And Lily's completely unrestricted air flow is like a breath of fresh air (albeit one that makes me cough like fuck from the ease of taking a vast hit I can't cope with) after solely using the hopper for a while.

The hopper is incredible. It's a real feat of engineering, but I think if I wanted to give it the hammering Lily gets, it wouldn't survive. I'm already bored of charging batteries (an external charger will resolve this) and managing heat levels ;-)

However, for massive, discrete hits on the go, I'll be reaching for the hopper every single time. If i were to go away for a few days, I'd be taking Lily for use wherever I'm staying, and the grasshopper for days out. Plus the charger. And extra batteries, and a lead. Maybe a water tool too.

This none combustion thing really starts to increase luggage!

 

[vapviking]

This none combustion thing really starts to increase luggage!

We're a far cry from a baggie and some papers!
But, come to think of it, the Hopper makes a pretty good stab at being the minimal replacement.

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

Those of you just receiving your units does the regular mouthpiece get too hot after a few consecutive draws?

It gets hot on 5 Carol if you hork on it heavily after 3 draws. 4 or lower is not an issue for me. The TI versions I have both cool down in seconds not minutes also making it easy to unload. I like to put my lips on the chamber and inhale quickly to get any particles out of the unit like my INH05S. Then, a quick tissue wipe while warm and it stays amazingly clean!

 

[Old School]

The Grasshopper is still convection, but using an on demand heater with no problems of temperature stabilization. Technically, the Grasshopper is not a session vape whatsoever, however I still get some good mileage off it with 2 or 3 friends through a waterpipe. I prefer to use the Grasshopper through a waterpipe as well. In public, obviously I'm not going to carry some glass around with me, so it's the only time I really choose to use the Grasshopper without a waterpipe.

In terms of "sipper or ripper" the Grasshopper is still definitely a ripper. I find sipping often leads to the auto-shut off (doesn't detect the draw). I'm ambivalent on this. It's nice to sip the Air, sometimes I can rip it and not have the temperature drop. The Grasshopper, I have to rip it, but it always delivers.

I prefer the Air for vapor without a waterpipe, but every time I would still choose the Grasshopper over the Air (and Flowermate lol). The thing is, with the Grasshopper I can put in a little bit, turn it up to 2.2 and milk my D020 white, and clear it and milk it 3 or 4 times on a single hit. Turn of the button, get 1 or 2 more milked hits. If I'm not high enough, I will turn it up to 3.2 or 3.3 and do the same. The Grasshopper really is a cloud machine, but I think waterpipes really show it off.

The vapor to the Grasshopper is pretty hot, which is why I prefer to use it through waterpipes. But, having also used both the Air and Grasshopper in public, the Grasshopper is still more discreet, easier to manage, and fun as fuck. I mean come on, who doesn't like the idea of taking a nice 15 second hit, holding while you walk past a nice couple, and then cheese and exhale a giant white cloud that makes you feel like you just hit a boxmod.

With all of this said, I still can't decide on a favorite. My order is definitely GH, Air, FM, but I still love to use all of them. Tastewise, the Grasshopper and the Air... maybe the Air has slightly better for the first few, but the Grasshopper keeps it more even throughout. After 5 minutes of a session with the Air, I need to stir it, which really bugs me since the glass is hot, to maintain good quality tasting vapor.


I do still stir the Grasshopper. I think I overpack it, as I have a really bad scale that can't scale anything less than 2 grams. Ridiculous, but it is what it is. So, usually after 3 or 4 hits on 3 or 4 (lol) I will open up the mouthpiece and push the bits on the top down and stir it a bit. I think the Airpath for the Grasshopper can begin to vape uneven if over or significantly under filled.

Sorry for the tangent, I just kept writing things.

Nice post.....

I would like to ask if you might be willing to experiment just a tiny bit for us or perhaps just myself..... In recognition of your statement "on demand heater with no problems of temperature stabilization" I feel this is the true essence... not to make light of the other awesome qualities, form factor, stealth, etc... but the heater and what it is capable of delivering or doing is what makes this vape stand out.....

So lets acknowledge that fact and adjust accordingly..... "rip or sip".... why not both....mix or combine the 2 methods.... I think we can all identify that the heater is capable of maintaining a steady temp no matter how hard the pull.... so if you wish to create a nice full hit but don't really wish to milk it {heavy extraction} but would prefer to create a full but not so heavy or saturated of an inhalation.... what I think many refer to as a session inhalation.... {more draws w/softer vapor}

So here is what I'd experiment with if I had a GH to play with...... my draw speed would be gentle for a few seconds just to get the chambered prewarmed or equalized closer to the vapor temp.... then I would begin to step up my draw speed to RIP speed but not for very long..... this will be the extraction time..... you will have to pin point best time line..... NOW for the mixing stage of our inhalation and I believe the GH has some amazing possibilities.... easiest being to simply click it off and continue drawing and mixing or you could return to a gentle softer pull...... I fond this idea very intriguing because we will still be getting heated air doing it this way.... therefore depending on user timing... the tailoring of our individual inhalations should be very easy to achieve.....

Maybe in the NOT so distant future GH2,3,4 or whatever they will be configurable.... each user could predefine how they'd like their inhalations to turn out...... then we wouldn't have to time ourselves or soften/harden inhale speeds...do it with temp control..dropping it slightly during the mixing stage of the inhalation..... wouldn't that be SOMETHING...!!

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

Nice post.....

I would like to ask if you might be willing to experiment just a tiny bit for us or perhaps just myself..... In recognition of your statement "on demand heater with no problems of temperature stabilization" I feel this is the true essence... not to make light of the other awesome qualities, form factor, stealth, etc... but the heater and what it is capable of delivering or doing is what makes this vape stand out.....

So lets acknowledge that fact and adjust accordingly..... "rip or sip".... why not both....mix or combine the 2 methods.... I think we can all identify that the heater is capable of maintaining a steady temp no matter how hard the pull.... so if you wish to create a nice full hit but don't really wish to milk it {heavy extraction} but would prefer to create a full but not so heavy or saturated of an inhalation.... what I think many refer to as a session inhalation.... {more draws w/softer vapor}

So here is what I'd experiment with if I had a GH to play with...... my draw speed would be gentle for a few seconds just to get the chambered prewarmed or equalized closer to the vapor temp.... then I would begin to step up my draw speed to RIP speed but not for very long..... this will be the extraction time..... you will have to pin point best time line..... NOW for the mixing stage of our inhalation and I believe the GH has some amazing possibilities.... easiest being to simply click it off and continue drawing and mixing or you could return to a gentle softer pull...... I fond this idea very intriguing because we will still be getting heated air doing it this way.... therefore depending on user timing... the tailoring of our individual inhalations should be very easy to achieve.....

Maybe in the NOT so distant future GH2,3,4 or whatever they will be configurable.... each user could predefine how they'd like their inhalations to turn out...... then we wouldn't have to time ourselves or soften/harden inhale speeds...do it with temp control..dropping it slightly during the mixing stage of the inhalation..... wouldn't that be SOMETHING...!!

I just read in the boulder paper this morning a precision dose vaporizer is getting funding from investors. I wonder if it's the Gh team?