Discontinued The Grasshopper
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inuhuion
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i think at such lower settings, you're having to hit it more often to finish the chamber, thus using more battery. I'd be willing to bet you'd get better battery life if you upped the temp to 3.5 to 4, if you can stand it.
PAZ
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I don't think that's necessarily true. I'm no electrical engineer, but if I was to make an educated guess a lower temperature should make the battery life longer.
For example, when driving, a moderate speed will use up less gas compared to speeding down the highway. I think it has to do with the conversion of energy, when you try to convert more electrical energy into heat at a faster rate, you'll end up with a less efficient method.
I could be wrong because I haven't looked any of this up, so feel free to correct me if i'm wrong
bluenavey00
Arizer Air Aficionado
I don't think that's necessarily true. I'm no electrical engineer, but if I was to make an educated guess a lower temperature should make the battery life longer.
For example, when driving, a moderate speed will use up less gas compared to speeding down the highway. I think it has to do with the conversion of energy, when you try to convert more electrical energy into heat at a faster rate, you'll end up with a less efficient method.
I could be wrong because I haven't looked any of this up, so feel free to correct me if i'm wrong
What your saying is correct, less temperature = less power consumed.
However I think what @inuhuion was saying that that using the device on a lower power level means it takes more hits to clear the load. The more puffs you take also the more battery you use.
Mr Mellish
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If they can only do 65 units/day, that press for the screens would seem to be the least of their worries.
Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
What makes you say 65 a day?
Have I missed something?
(apologies if it's something obvious)
Mr. Me2
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Ghl said they can now produce 1300 gh's a month. I'm guessing @Mr Mellish figures a 20 workday month. And we keep waiting to hear that number jump from ghl.
Mr Mellish
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1300 units per month, 20 days/month.
Old School
Vape13man
So when you said the "top also runs surprisingly hot" can I assume your referring to the on/off switch area..whats been referred to as the back end....
I think it safe to say if you just received yours it should be from the recent "parts adjustment" batch and we are hearing about the hot back end... taking down battery performance....
Not what I was hoping to hear.....
TheWhisper
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While I'm awaiting my external battery charger, I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a USB-to-outlet adapter that would provide adequate input to charge the Hopper at normal speed?
While the external charger will be fine for home usage, I wouldn't want to carry it around with me to other peoples' houses or on trips. But an adapter would be fine for those use cases, especially if it were slim.
While the external charger will be fine for home usage, I wouldn't want to carry it around with me to other peoples' houses or on trips. But an adapter would be fine for those use cases, especially if it were slim.
Czechyourhead
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Barring any unforeseen complications, I am very happy with my grasshopper. Working as promised. I've been running it pretty hard though a water piece @3 1/2-4. Getting about 3-4 good hits. Maybe 5 to 7 loads per battery. I'm using an external charger. Haven't tried the one provided by hopper labs. Glad I bought extra batteries.
I'm able to pull hits comparable to my EVO. Not quite as tasty.
I know its partly to do with the vapor signature, but I do find it very effective. Yes I've used a bit less than I would with my EVO, but again, probably just the new vape honeymoon phase.
I'm able to pull hits comparable to my EVO. Not quite as tasty.
I know its partly to do with the vapor signature, but I do find it very effective. Yes I've used a bit less than I would with my EVO, but again, probably just the new vape honeymoon phase.
nonbeliever
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I just use the plug from my iPad or iphone
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tubasco
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I remember reading that any UL rated USB charger should work. The amperage of the charger will determine the rate of charging. In other words, the iPad charger will charge the hopper faster than the iPhone charger.
TheWhisper
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@delloy @Jack Sprat
What charging current do/would you use for the GH batteries — 0.25A, 0.50A, or 1.00A — with your XTAR chargers?
EDIT: Hm. So, the GH batteries say 3.7V on them, but when I put them in to the XTAR VP2, the readout says around 3.85V, and then goes upward from there when charging. That's larger than the voltage on the battery, and it goes up if I leave it charging! Again, I know very little about electricity and batteries, but is that supposed to happen?
I also have the option to manually select 3.2V, 3.6V, or 3.8V on the back of the charger. I think these are the termination voltages, but I'm not sure if I should choose 3.6V or 3.8V...
EDIT2: So, after a bit of researching, it seems that 3.7V is the "nominal voltage" (i.e. the normal operating voltage when in use), but the full charge of the battery (AKA charge voltage) is generally higher than that (in this case, around 4.2V). So, that's why it's showing over 3.7V on the display.
After reading the manual a bit more thoroughly, I've found that for 3.7V batteries, I'd want to use the 3.6V setting. Still not sure about current, but I'm thinking that 1.00A is fine and not too high a value.
Let me know if I'm incorrect, electricians of FC
What charging current do/would you use for the GH batteries — 0.25A, 0.50A, or 1.00A — with your XTAR chargers?
EDIT: Hm. So, the GH batteries say 3.7V on them, but when I put them in to the XTAR VP2, the readout says around 3.85V, and then goes upward from there when charging. That's larger than the voltage on the battery, and it goes up if I leave it charging! Again, I know very little about electricity and batteries, but is that supposed to happen?
I also have the option to manually select 3.2V, 3.6V, or 3.8V on the back of the charger. I think these are the termination voltages, but I'm not sure if I should choose 3.6V or 3.8V...
EDIT2: So, after a bit of researching, it seems that 3.7V is the "nominal voltage" (i.e. the normal operating voltage when in use), but the full charge of the battery (AKA charge voltage) is generally higher than that (in this case, around 4.2V). So, that's why it's showing over 3.7V on the display.
After reading the manual a bit more thoroughly, I've found that for 3.7V batteries, I'd want to use the 3.6V setting. Still not sure about current, but I'm thinking that 1.00A is fine and not too high a value.
Let me know if I'm incorrect, electricians of FC
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Fully charged that battery should be between 4.1-4.2v. If your charger is charging it over 4.2v then thats a problem.
fonzerelli
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@delloy @Jack Sprat
What charging current do/would you use for the GH batteries — 0.25A, 0.50A, or 1.00A — with your XTAR chargers?
EDIT: Hm. So, the GH batteries say 3.7V on them, but when I put them in to the XTAR VP2, the readout says around 3.85V, and then goes upward from there when charging. That's larger than the voltage on the battery, and it goes up if I leave it charging! Again, I know very little about electricity and batteries, but is that supposed to happen?
I also have the option to manually select 3.2V, 3.6V, or 3.8V on the back of the charger. I think these are the termination voltages, but I'm not sure if I should choose 3.6V or 3.8V...
EDIT2: So, after a bit of researching, it seems that 3.7V is the "nominal voltage" (i.e. the normal operating voltage when in use), but the full charge of the battery (AKA charge voltage) is generally higher than that (in this case, around 4.2V). So, that's why it's showing over 3.7V on the display.
After reading the manual a bit more thoroughly, I've found that for 3.7V batteries, I'd want to use the 3.6V setting. Still not sure about current, but I'm thinking that 1.00A is fine and not too high a value.
Let me know if I'm incorrect, electricians of FC
Perhaps you are over thinking this charging thing. I'd leave it on auto. Setting a termination voltage at 3.6, I believe, will leave you a battery that's pretty under charged.
Mr. Niceguy
Well-Known Member
50 minutes always on?
Sounds unrealistic to me. My GH don't even gets close to that.
Jack Sprat
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I'd use. 25 or. 5. 1A is too high a charge rate for such a small capacity battery. All the rest of your info is spot on.@delloy @Jack Sprat
What charging current do/would you use for the GH batteries — 0.25A, 0.50A, or 1.00A — with your XTAR chargers?
EDIT: Hm. So, the GH batteries say 3.7V on them, but when I put them in to the XTAR VP2, the readout says around 3.85V, and then goes upward from there when charging. That's larger than the voltage on the battery, and it goes up if I leave it charging! Again, I know very little about electricity and batteries, but is that supposed to happen?
I also have the option to manually select 3.2V, 3.6V, or 3.8V on the back of the charger. I think these are the termination voltages, but I'm not sure if I should choose 3.6V or 3.8V...
EDIT2: So, after a bit of researching, it seems that 3.7V is the "nominal voltage" (i.e. the normal operating voltage when in use), but the full charge of the battery (AKA charge voltage) is generally higher than that (in this case, around 4.2V). So, that's why it's showing over 3.7V on the display.
After reading the manual a bit more thoroughly, I've found that for 3.7V batteries, I'd want to use the 3.6V setting. Still not sure about current, but I'm thinking that 1.00A is fine and not too high a value.
Let me know if I'm incorrect, electricians of FC
TheWhisper
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Unfortunately, there is no auto. But that termination voltage seems to be for the nominal voltage. I just left the batteries in for a while, and it charged them to ~4.20V then shut off.
Good point.
GHWhatWhat
New Member
High drain batteries, which this is, are often able to be charged at higher rates too. It's possible that 1A is still safe, but until we have expert analysis of these cells your advice is probably a good rule of thumb.
Jack Sprat
Well-Known Member
1C or less is the standard which I've always used. Unless something has changed since I started using li-ion cells years ago (which is entirely possible) I wouldn't exceed that.
In any event, they should fully charge in less than an hour and a half at .5A.
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TheWhisper
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I've gotten the Hopper to work on and off, and I've been noticing a weird taste. I even tried with an empty chamber, but I'm still tasting it. I don't really know how to describe it. I only have the Solo to compare vape tastes to, so it could just be the unique Hopper taste. I hope not though because I don't like it. (Yes, I did use the same material in both to check if it was that.)
I should probably stop using it until I can get a replacement...
I should probably stop using it until I can get a replacement...