Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Apparently I don't know how to spell Vaporizer.
Discontinued The Grasshopper
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Paitient_Grasshopper
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How many flashlights are you using which outer bodies are made of steel or titanium or for that matter any type of metal? In my experience there is rubber or some form of plastic which is not a conductor of electricity. You are correct you should have not experienced anything of the sort with a flashlight.
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SmokinMagic
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Aaand ignored.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I'm with the @Vape Dr. No vaporizer should be shocking you. Its rediculous to think differently. If it's shocking you, you need to excersise your lifetime warranty.
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This vaporizer should be made so folks can turn it on with their mouths if need be. If it's a flaw that's one of the things they need to be looked at. It may not work for everyone then. We have a lot of people that need to use their vaporizers in an alternative way such as turning it on and adjusting with their mouth.
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This vaporizer should be made so folks can turn it on with their mouths if need be. If it's a flaw that's one of the things they need to be looked at. It may not work for everyone then. We have a lot of people that need to use their vaporizers in an alternative way such as turning it on and adjusting with their mouth.
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Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
The voltage is running through the body in both the Grasshopper and the flashlight. It's such a low voltage and the resistance of the human body is high enough that you don't feel it through your fingers. It's the same as a 9 Volt battery, touch both terminals with your fingers and you feel nothing, but touch them with your wet tongue with fairly low resistance and it tingles.
The clicker pushes down and makes contact with the internal plunger which makes contact with the battery. So, if your tounge is making contact with the clicker and the body when turning on, you wil feel a slight tingle.
If you hold a piece of metal between the clicker and body at the end you will get a "false start". The lights will turn on and you will hear a clicking sound, but then the unit turns itself off because it recognizes that the clicker hasn't been pressed.
I wouldn't say it's a flaw in the design because its inherent to the design, but there are ways to shield the user from this.
They may have been able to solve this with an immovable plastic cap over the clicker, but it would have messed with the aesthetics in my opinion.
I'm aware that some folks may have to turn on the vaporizer with their mouth due to disability, but I truly believe that the designers never intended for it to be turned on in this manner. Through your tongue is really the only way to feel the tingle.
The clicker pushes down and makes contact with the internal plunger which makes contact with the battery. So, if your tounge is making contact with the clicker and the body when turning on, you wil feel a slight tingle.
If you hold a piece of metal between the clicker and body at the end you will get a "false start". The lights will turn on and you will hear a clicking sound, but then the unit turns itself off because it recognizes that the clicker hasn't been pressed.
I wouldn't say it's a flaw in the design because its inherent to the design, but there are ways to shield the user from this.
They may have been able to solve this with an immovable plastic cap over the clicker, but it would have messed with the aesthetics in my opinion.
I'm aware that some folks may have to turn on the vaporizer with their mouth due to disability, but I truly believe that the designers never intended for it to be turned on in this manner. Through your tongue is really the only way to feel the tingle.
Vapor_Eyes
taste buds
I know what you're saying, but I would probably never even know this was an issue if it weren't for this thread. I guarantee you I never planned on adjusting the temp with my teeth.
It was posted early in this thread that simultaneously touching the clicker and the body with metal, such as a coin or key, could complete the electrical circuit. This was known by GHL and they made the Grasshopper able to detect the false signal and not drain the battery.
Personally I would rather not have wires near my air path, and would most likely have never even discovered the GH's ability to shock you. Any electric vape has the ability to shock you if it is not used according to the instructions. I find wires near the air path to be a more serious hazard than a very mild electric shock.
We all have our own standards when it comes to what is healthy and I respect that. I also appreciate how much the FC community has done to help create demand for healthy vaporizers, share information, and hold manufacturers accountable. We need to know all the facts to be able to make informed decisions.
This was mentioned by Trevor a while ago. The Hopper's programming can supposedly detect when something unexpected is making contact with the backend and prevent the hopper from turning on.
Yes when the back of the hopper makes contact with metal, the hopper's lights turn on, but the heater will not. This was discussed at least two if not thee months ago when an early backer noticed his hopper turning on when making contact with a metal surface.
Too lazy right now to look through old posts to find which user it was. But I do remember Trevor said they had developed some programming to compensate for this scenario.
Still not too worried, I normally don't go around sticking my tongue on the charging ports of my vaporizers
smutman
SmutmanMDCXX
Me too
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
I don't think it would get hot enough to vaporize the oil within the stone.
Oh, I get it! You're trying to be coy. But given the context, it's really not working.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I'm not sure how you're reading his post, but I have the same questions. You said you have a $99 convection vape, and to our knowledge no such thing exists that is worth a shit. So what are you vaping with? Unless it's this GH that you got for $99...
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Sticks, juke was a backer, they paid $99 for the GH, hes posted reviews here, see prev page
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
I never felt the stone held concentrates very well in comparison to VaporGenie's liquid pad and other metal meshes.
They also are too big to fit.
@Deadshort480 where did you get that hydrotube?
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Glassblowersdirect.com
It is the mouthpiece to their Assassin 2.0 line.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Sticks, juke was a backer, they paid $99 for the GH, hes posted reviews here, see prev page
That makes sense. Thanks bud. Too much zionizing going on over in my area...
dac13
Well-Known Member
I ordered a titanium version at the end of august. Now at the end of september I just ordered a stainless steel version for a friend. My order ID in august was 19000 something, and the new one is 22000. So I find it interesting and hopeful that there have been 3000 more orders in the past month, that means they are still getting a constant flow of capital to workout issues and increase production.
Mr. Niceguy
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Hi there, I have my GH for 2 or 3 weeks now. First backend (serial number in the 500's) got a little hot and highest temperature gave only thin clouds and greenish ABV. 2 out of 3 additional batteries I ordered were dead.
Last week I got a replacement backend (serial number in the 100's) and batteries.
So far, I realy like the GH. Something that imho could be improved in a GH 2.0: the temperature-dial is difficult in the dark, you can just guess the position. I would prefer something like a clicking dial where each clicking is +10°C. That and a stealth-mode without lights would be great. I wouldn't need the light. Something like vibration-alarm for empty battery and lights just for charging would rock. Heat up time is fast enough for using without an indicator. Click, wait 4 seconds, vape.
What do you think about the "accustic-stealh-mode" of the GH? If I push the button of my GH just to right before it clicks, it heats up and you can vape. Release the finger and it stops. Is it a bug or a feature? Is it ok for regular use?
Last week I got a replacement backend (serial number in the 100's) and batteries.
So far, I realy like the GH. Something that imho could be improved in a GH 2.0: the temperature-dial is difficult in the dark, you can just guess the position. I would prefer something like a clicking dial where each clicking is +10°C. That and a stealth-mode without lights would be great. I wouldn't need the light. Something like vibration-alarm for empty battery and lights just for charging would rock. Heat up time is fast enough for using without an indicator. Click, wait 4 seconds, vape.
What do you think about the "accustic-stealh-mode" of the GH? If I push the button of my GH just to right before it clicks, it heats up and you can vape. Release the finger and it stops. Is it a bug or a feature? Is it ok for regular use?
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These batteries still worry me. This is a 45W device. Assuming they are using 3.7v it takes ~12A. I have never seen a battery this size handle more than 10A continuous, in fact 10A may be a stretch for a battery this size I would of guessed, just at the sixe, that it would be more to 7-8A. Even if they are pulling 5v from the battery it will still be 8A which may fit under the specs of the battery but its close. And the fact you got two of them dead is not reassuring. I buy tons of these batteries for vaping and never had any DOA. This is a lot of Amps to be pulling on dangerous chemical batteries and I hope to hell they are not some cheap Chinese manufacturing.
Obviously I must be missing something because I don't think they would get it CES checked if it did not comply with safety standards but it still doesn't feel right to me. I truly wished they gave the specs of the battery. Too bad I won't be getting one til November because I would love to do some testing on the battery.
CE24
Well-Known Member
When you first push the button it is on, contact made ie momentary push switch on an e-cig.. The click is kind of like a holder for the first contact made on/off don't have to hold it for power.
I just tried that on my hopper and got the same result as you. A bonus momentary hold switch or click on/off switch. I would say use it if you don't want the loud click can't see it damaging anything.