If you're soley going for whip then I would go for the SSV, the Extreme is good for both whips/bags, but not the best. The SSV is nice, but the hands free attachment to me doesn't seen sturdy, I don't know what others think.hbuddy72 said:
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The DBV and SSV are as efficient as you make them. You can load small, efficient bowls, or you can jam a bunch in a get super ripped.Konrad_Zuse said:
I've owned an extreme and an SSV, and I have to disagree. The ssv's whip hits are superior, as is coupling it with a bong. The E is a good whip and a really good bag vape, but the SSV wins in the whip category, and I can chalk my bong way better with an ssv. The other advantage of the SSV is the durability factor. My SSV has survived dozens of nasty falls, abuse while travelling, and I've accidentally left it on for days more than once, and it's still going just as strong as day one.I'm not sure what kind of metal the SSV is made of, but that outer casing is solid, and the very few, simple parts means there's much less to go wrong than the intricate E. I'm not knocking the E, it's great, but I don't think it surpasses the SSV in evey way.hbuddy72 said:
) which is much more simplistic than Arizer's blueprint. If you KNOW you're just gonna want the whip, no question the SSV hands-down.
) huge vapor clouds with my Extreme v3, I'm not sure I'd want more vapor than what the Extreme can offer with an elbow pack (not to mention what it does with kief!). 
Well I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to look like some kinda lightweight, but a little elbow pack in my Q of herb at 200C can give me plenty of vapor, sometimes leaving me coughing. If there are vapes that put out more vapor, I don't wanna hear about them. Coughing is not on my Top Ten list of fun things to do.hereatlast said:On the other hand, I've been a little taken aback at the criticism the Extreme's whip has gotten in some cases, I can take in (and cough out sometimes
Rocket's a lightweight!
You're going the same route I'm goingstickstones said:^^^
I haven't used the ssv with a water pipe yet, but that's a good point. I will probably want the gong hands-free adapter if I decide to hit it like that.
Yes...I don't want to make it sound like the E doesn't do its job of hitting well with the whip...especially with the elbow pack. I should get my brother to bring my E over here and elbow pack it side by side with the ssv to see how it does...just too many little ones around here to do that easily.
The E was my first vape and I love it. After a while I stopped using bags and just used the whip. At that point I started looking for the biggest hits I could get and landed on wanting the ssv or the vhw. I decided on the ssv due to availability, durability, and the fact that I don't have some nice glass to go with the vhw. I haven't been disappointed. I'll do that comparison someday, but it won't be soon.
I think the E (or Q), and now maybe the ZephyrIon, are some of the best choices for first time users or people who want everything in one device. But if I know that all I want is the whip hits, I'd just start with the ssv.
. I love my E, but bigger hits could be cool, I don't use the bag, but the option is cool when I need it, especially at school. I'm wanting to get a VHW soon too, hopefully that will work well 
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See? See? I told'ja that someone would call me a lightweight!stickstones said:
Vapor is closer to 90% thc, while smoke is closer to 10%.the electrician said:
Think of vapor being closer to steam than smoke. But in this case instead of being composed of H2O, it is composed of THC. When vaporizing, you are boiling the THC out of the plant.B. said:
