I won't dwell on comparison, but Bowle is portable, if not easily pocketable. I take it in the car, out in the yard, etc., but not on a walk...
Most people rarely use the cup.
I believe it has the edge over io and TM in, as I said, flavor and cooling department.
Actually, we're lucky now to have several great post-hopper choices.
I officially disputed yesterday my HL battery order charge from early July. No issues doing so with my credit card company. I’m officially done with HL after 6 years. I won’t order anything else from them and let my current batch of working batteries go and wind down as long as they last. Then mothball all HL stuff. End of an era. I’m already looking into potential replacements which is more fun than attempting to deal with HL.
Caroline didn’t last that long as the initial customer service person, lol!Looks like they are fully cooked, especially if they aren’t shipping anything….. and don’t want your money!
But …. they are #1 in my experience at…. WORSE CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER!
Caroline didn’t last that long as the initial customer service person, lol!
I greatly respect your and @Shit Snacks opinions and information over the years, in all seriousness (and many others too). Yeah, it F HL was sold and rose again from the ashes, er AVB , I might consider something else from them. For now I think someone above got the last shipment of anything from them and I’ll just suffice with my existing batts, which should last me another year or so. I have other vapes but love portables. I’ll keep the Bowle in the back of my mind though I’m not sure I’d consider it. Indeed, the market is maturing and new vapes are coming out with frequency. Cheers!
It’s the Hopper Files or Hopper Zone. Sort of like a black hole where nothing escapes.Have they been abducted by HL to keep their fancy secrets?
…which means if not bigger, more reliable? Lol.It would have to be a locust!
I think the two biggest issues with the Hopper is the propriety battery and propensity for stuff to accumulate behind the heater without a good way to clean it (unless you’re not faint of heart and soak the body frontend in ISO lest your even braver to take the heater out of the body, which is doable but you’ll likely break a retaining ring doing so). Other folks have had different issues (i.e. backend, and a couple of issues related to that too), but I think the battery and gunkiness behind the heater are the Achilles heels.Haha definitely bigger too, part of the source of all the problems with the hopper is that stupid pen body
I think the two biggest issues with the Hopper is the propriety battery and propensity for stuff to accumulate behind the heater without a good way to clean it (unless you’re not faint of heart and soak the body frontend in ISO lest your even braver to take the heater out of the body, which is doable but you’ll likely break a retaining ring doing so). Other folks have had different issues (i.e. backend, and a couple of issues related to that too), but I think the battery and gunkiness behind the heater are the Achilles heels.
I never had an issue with the clicker or backend at all. I know some others had one of a couple of issues with it. I never thought the clicker was problematic. Removable chamber would be a good idea on a wider body (think cigar diameter, which would of course hold a common 18650 - go figure). I’ve always loved the general form factor and size - and ease of use. It was a good idea, poorly executed (and quality control and bumbling operations and supply chain issues which caught up with them and bit them in the butt. It was good and fun while it lasted and the vape worked - as long as you have batteries, lol.Yeah, but I think that's all related to the stupid pen design, if it didn't have to be that tiny, if it didn't have to have that complicated clicker, if the chamber could be removable... It would be better if they didn't limit themselves with the pen form factor
It's a learning experience. The slim design creates multiple potential air flow restriction points. The very fine screen in the tip and the small tip opening will get gummed up with sticky brown resin before you learn how to clean it. It all comes down to frequent cleanings with ISO, including soaking the mouthpiece and using Q-tips and toothpicks very gently to clean the interior, including the side of the MP screen you can't see.OK i have a hopper IO on the way and I would like to make it last as long as it can. What are the dos and don’ts from your experiences? I have 3 batteries total. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance.
Funny to see debate about how well the clicker works and questions about how to best care for a hopper to keep it running, when I look at it as a virtually obsolete/unavailable/failed product.
However, truth be told I did purchase (reasonably!) a very nice io last week, figured what-the-heck I have some batteries (even 3 new ones).
I came across a random old @Delta3DStudios silicone adapter (a piece of silicone tubing also can work) that I put on the io's pfe and it then mates pretty easily to a Taffee Bowle stem (I'm using the tall stem for this). Hits are lucious, thick and very cool with this stem (one of the genius parts of the Bowle, imo).
Aside from the failures, I think the clicker has always required too much force to click!
Ha! before I found the adapter in the photo, I had used one of your Mighty wpa's (with part of the tip snipped off!). That one allowed me to mate the Mighty up to the Taffee stem. Or, with its screen removed I could shove the io into it, to work with the Bowle stem.Earlier this week someone else showed me a video using a Mighty v3 WPA with some other desktop injection vaporizer (if I recall correctly) for enhanced performance. I can't keep up with all the tech - it's insane.
Also I'm still lost why Hopper labs folded.... did anyone acquire the tech before they went out of business? That is such a shame because their 3D printed heat exchanger technology had real potential to change the industry..... if only they hadn't over-complicated the rest of the design! I still have my original Stainless Steel Grasshopper which works - but the batteries are dead