Discontinued Hopper io

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
Crickets from HL and their support email asking about the status of my battery order. I just sent another short, nice (really!) message asking for a status after not hearing from them a couple of times in the last few weeks. Crickets - and perhaps the final chirp was already made, quietly, a few weeks ago. Dead as a doornail comes to mind (TBD). :peace:
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
I drop in here periodically to renew my faith in man’s capacity for hope, but you and @Vaporific have my sympathies.

Courtesy of @cliffhanger1:
Thanks. At first their shipping info page indicated something not for the US but it did let me select US as a shipping address. It’ll cost me 70 Euros or whatever the current US$ conversion rate is (which is a few cents more than a Euro) and 50 Euros to ship via DHL for 6 batteries. Three of the batts are for me and the other would be for a friend. That’s about $20 per battery, and I had a discount code for HL too so they were about half as much. Of course they may never come and I’ll soon dispute the charge in a few days with my credit card company.

…and be done with HL forever. At least as long as my batteries last. I’ll move on and find other portables meeting my needs without proprietary power sources or some pass through option (or whatever it’s called when you can plug it in and use it while charging). :peace:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
It’ll cost me 70 Euros or whatever the current US$ conversion rate is (which is a few cents more than a Euro) and 50 Euros to ship via DHL for 6 batteries. Three of the batts are for me and the other would be for a friend. That’s about $20 per battery
Too much to spend; the device may fail before those batteries do, aside from the chance that some of the batteries are not very good out of the gate.
Once I made the commitment to be done with the IO, it was surprising how quickly my feeling that it is a great vape dissipated and others that are actually better have come into focus.

What I have left are two non-working bodies, 1 non-working back end, and one full IO that sits in the drawer, gets used maybe once a month. Shocking heat comes out the air inlet holes (sporadically) and the temp dial can barely turn, it stays on 3.

Literally, out with a whimper.
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
Too much to spend; the device may fail before those batteries do, aside from the chance that some of the batteries are not very good out of the gate.
Once I made the commitment to be done with the IO, it was surprising how quickly my feeling that it is a great vape dissipated and others that are actually better have come into focus.

What I have left are two non-working bodies, 1 non-working back end, and one full IO that sits in the drawer, gets used maybe once a month. Shocking heat comes out the air inlet holes (sporadically) and the temp dial can barely turn, it stays on 3.

Literally, out with a whimper.
That’s my contention - too much per battery. And cost really isn’t a factor for me but more principle at this point. And weaning myself off Hoppers (I have one working OG and one working IO, however). I love them but willing to let them go by way of dust when my current set of batts die. I won’t hold my breath HL will be resurrected and will move on like many others have. It’s a shame because when they work well, they really work well (as stated countless times herein). HL however just doesn’t work well - and now appears defunct. Almost time to move on… :peace::peace:
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
Just saw that vaporific.ca (Canada) has ss io's and batteries in stock... weird!
Thanks! A shop after my own moniker :). Still haven’t cancelled or disputed the HL order, and I have a few more days to do so before my credit card bill is due.

So I tried adding more than 1 batt to the cart and it won’t let me. Either there’s one left or you can only order 1 at a time - and I’ll wager it’s the former. I was hoping to order a few for me and a few for someone else. Thanks for the suggestion though. This may be the last inventory in North America for all we know. :peace:
 
Vaporific,

Vapinski

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I’m sure someone in here can, but will someone please give me the info on what the actual temperatures are on each of the notch settings? Just curious mostly. Thanks!
 
Vapinski,

JBone65

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Screenshot-20220823-220429.png

The reported temperature range numbers don't agree. 130°C to 230°C isn't the same as 220°F to 430°F.

130°C to 230°C converted to fahrenheit should be 266°F to 446°F

If 220°F to 430°F is correct, the temperature for each of the five marks is approximately:

220, 272.5, 325, 377.5, 430°F
 
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Vapinski

Well-Known Member
Screenshot-20220823-220429.png

The reported temperature range numbers don't agree. 130°C to 230°C isn't the same as 220°F to 430°F.

130°C to 230°C converted to fahrenheit should be 266°F to 446°F

If 220°F to 430°F is correct, the temperature for each of the five marks is approximately:

220, 272.5, 325, 377.5, 430°F
Thank you.
 
Vapinski,

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
T minus 2 days until commencement to dispute charge for the HL batts I ordered in July which I haven’t received nor any email response from HL about the order. I’m giving HL a bit of slack and time however my credit card bill is due in a week and will dispute it soon. And then, perhaps sadly, be done with HL forever. I’ll go as long as my existing batts hold out. :peace:
 
Vaporific,

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
I guess nothing came of someone knocking on their door??????
Nope - crickets via email with them several time about my battery order placed on July 13th. I was very polite and brief in my messages simply asking for an update. Over the weekend I’ll dispute the charge on my credit card bill before it’s due in early September. The HL ride looks to be over until my batteries run out.

In the meantime I’ll get excited about looking for a portable replacement. It’ll be hard to match all the great qualities of a Hopper I’ve come to know since I received my OG in ‘16 (with a year-long RMA stint from ‘19-‘20) and IO in ‘20. The Hopper ride looks like it’s ending. Oh well. The market is ripe with many choices. HL just couldn’t get out of its own way with lots of missteps and fumbles of their own accord. TGIF & cheers. :peace:
 
Vaporific,

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
Also got new batteries.
From HL? Glad your IO is running again. My Ti IO has a gently used bronze anodized body which doesn’t look bad at all. I do think the new body has a different signature than the original, which I still have and works. But the circumference of the heating chamber can’t be bent back enough for easy on/off of the frontend (my own doing). :peace:
 
Vaporific,

JBone65

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Yes, a couple of months back I ordered one and received two. Took 4-5 weeks to receive it. Noticed one day that package tracking info had been added when looking at the status of my order online.

Even blind hogs find an acorn now and then, everyone deserves a little luck.
 
JBone65,

AJS

Calm Consistency
You know there's just gotta be someone in here with 10 of these bad boys stocked up, drizzling those hot back ends all over their face as they read of our sorrows
 

RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
You know there's just gotta be someone in here with 10 of these bad boys stocked up, drizzling those hot back ends all over their face as they read of our sorrows

Guilty as charged…. (10) new batteries in refrigerator at storage voltage of 3.82. Since they are custom made to fit the GH, figured it made sense to have an insurance policy. Unfortunately, I realized early on, the “lifetime guarantee” was just BS, so my battery reserve may out last the two devices I bought.
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
I officially disputed yesterday my HL battery order charge from early July. No issues doing so with my credit card company. I’m officially done with HL after 6 years. I won’t order anything else from them and let my current batch of working batteries go and wind down as long as they last. Then mothball all HL stuff. End of an era. I’m already looking into potential replacements which is more fun than attempting to deal with HL. :peace:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
I officially disputed yesterday my HL battery order charge from early July. No issues doing so with my credit card company. I’m officially done with HL after 6 years. I won’t order anything else from them and let my current batch of working batteries go and wind down as long as they last. Then mothball all HL stuff. End of an era. I’m already looking into potential replacements which is more fun than attempting to deal with HL. :peace:
Look at Bowle, and to the new version of that coming very soon.
Extremely tasty and cool hits.
Or of course the TM2 is just around the corner.
Both are definitely a cut above the io.
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
Look at Bowle, and to the new version of that coming very soon.
Extremely tasty and cool hits.
Or of course the TM2 is just around the corner.
Both are definitely a cut above the io.
Bowle I wouldn’t consider portable. I’m not sold on the cup thing either as I drink mostly water for my daily liquid intake anyway. I know you don’t have to order the cup but I don’t think that’s for me. Indeed I’m seriously considering a TM2 as I love my OG TM. I still gravitate to portables and the flexibility they provide me. Hoppers are ultimate portables and very pocketable but HL is a shamble at this point. No regrets and no looking back. Onward! :peace:
 
Vaporific,

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Bowle I wouldn’t consider portable. I’m not sold on the cup thing either as I drink mostly water for my daily liquid intake anyway. I know you don’t have to order the cup but I don’t think that’s for me. Indeed I’m seriously considering a TM2 as I love my OG TM. I still gravitate to portables and the flexibility they provide me. Hoppers are ultimate portables and very pocketable but HL is a shamble at this point. No regrets and no looking back. Onward! :peace:
I won't dwell on comparison, but Bowle is portable, if not easily pocketable. I take it in the car, out in the yard, etc., but not on a walk...
Most people rarely use the cup.
I believe it has the edge over io and TM in, as I said, flavor and cooling department.
Actually, we're lucky now to have several great post-hopper choices.
 
vapviking,
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