vaping herbs
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coolbreeze
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It is tricky, imo. I'm only torching it so far, tried the wand but wasn't wowed so I'll need to figure all that out. There is sometimes a flavor or smell, really. It seems like it's scorching the herbs but I don't see that it actually is. I think it's as much work as I've ever put into a DV, to be honest, but I feel like I'm getting there.
That said I find the Hyper and THC much easier and more like what you'd hope for.
@DgN'R, if you are still working on your convection cap for std DVs, I'd love to try one!
Manual Vape Thread
What do you prefer about it? It could be my imagination, but I think the airflow is more open. The bowl has these wee slits/ crenellations at the top unlike the TT/terp (which rely on holes in the heater itself). I guess the 18mm/14mm aspect impacts on airflow as well. That said, they're all...
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vaping herbs
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@DgN'R I would also be interested in one of these caps
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
Can you change the balls in the unidyn, or is that just a feature of the other 2 caps? While I don’t have the dyna ballers, I would get the same scorching taste with my tempest when the balls started to get dirty or when little crumbs got past the screen, and used that as a sign it needed a cleaning.
It is tricky, imo. I'm only torching it so far, tried the wand but wasn't wowed so I'll need to figure all that out. There is sometimes a flavor or smell, really. It seems like it's scorching the herbs but I don't see that it actually is. I think it's as much work as I've ever put into a DV, to be honest, but I feel like I'm getting there.
That said I find the Hyper and THC much easier and more like what you'd hope for.
@DgN'R, if you are still working on your convection cap for std DVs, I'd love to try one!
Manual Vape Thread
What do you prefer about it? It could be my imagination, but I think the airflow is more open. The bowl has these wee slits/ crenellations at the top unlike the TT/terp (which rely on holes in the heater itself). I guess the 18mm/14mm aspect impacts on airflow as well. That said, they're all...fuckcombustion.com
I think @DgN'R have been quite disheartened because dynavap rushed the development and released the THC cap and Ball'r cap just a few months after he presented his prototype on this board.
I mean... if dynavap wanted to adapt @phattpiggie 's ideas to their products they could have done it a long time ago.
@DgN'R showed his works here on September and in January dynavap announced their ball caps. 3 months is just about the time it takes to a company with these ressources and established manufacturing and supply chain to develop and mass produce this kind of product...
hotmeals
Serial vapist
IDK I'm really liking mine so far, other than tip compatibility of the Ballr cap. Haven't found it to be very difficult at all even with a torch, and I'm getting good clean flavor. I was testing it with the Forge for the first time yesterday and the results of that sesh were quite promising. Pumping clouds on the first hit without a bowl preheat, and cascade mode for the reheats. Bowl is done in about 2-4 good hits. Still figuring out what settings to use from completely cold.
Supposedly you can, but I don't think any of us have been brave enough to try yet. There haven't been any instructions for how to do it released yet as far as I know.
jbm
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Isn’t it as likely that they saw the success of the Tempest, and the TAs and wanted to bring their version to market?
coolbreeze
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Ah, I wonder if it's that? I have read that DV says you can change out the balls but it's not apparent how you would and I don't think I've seen anyone who's actually done it yet.
Might still be room for him...
Can you make a torching vid? I'm finding it completely inconsistent. I can sort of coax it to work ok-ish if I heat right below the perforated sections but it takes an indeterminate/inconsistent number of preheats; anything else tends to scorch it, sometimes even before I draw. I usually have no problems at all with any dynavap.
hotmeals
Serial vapist
Sure I'll see what I can do when I go for a vape in a bit.
jefferson9
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its okay it sort of feels like a revision behind where it should be imo
the flavor isn't really as good as a tempest (probably a side effect of less airflow through the cap), personally i was just looking for a tempest with slightly less mass to it to heat up/cooldown faster, and this accomplishes that pretty well.
I find the click to be really inaccurate and I'm missing the visual indicator on the tempest. From cold with torch it seems to just barely hit the lower end of the temperature spectrum on the 2nd click where as with the tempest it's already at OHE temp. And then you have no indicators until the cooldown clicks, and once you start heating again it clicks within seconds and it's no where near vaping temp. This is to be expected though with a modular cap designed for probably a different tip than what I'm using (an old SS bowl from a 2017M I had lying around).
So it's not perfect, it's modular which is nice but the temperature indicator sucks (maybe can be improved by changing balls?) and the flavor isn't really there (because less mass/airflow?). Overall it performs fine once you get past the learning curve, it feels like a lot of guessing and sipping like an OG vapman. It's also really restrictive on the airflow and you don't have much control over your draw speed to further control the roasting temp.
Still waiting to see how the green sapphire balls or maybe the boro balls from MH perform with it. Speaking of changing the balls, I sent a support ticket asking how and got a seemingly AI tier response that didn't mention how to disassemble it and when I asked specifically they said instructions with pictures/video coming soon. They did mention that the top separates or something.
overall it's only $45, if it was more than that I would say it's a hard pass save your money
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hotmeals
Serial vapist
Here's my torch video. It was kinda tough to torch properly while trying to keep it in frame, but I managed to get a pretty perfect bowl here. Hopefully you can see what's going on and it's helpful:
That's been one of the best performing tips for me so far. Its sidewall airflow is less open than most so it allows more air to go through the balls.
I'm getting excellent flavor with mine honestly. All I was tasting after that bowl in the video was KUSH
kokolokokolokon
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Honestly, I'm having trouble getting good results with the unidyn, or at least within reasonable heating times.
First: my yllih, which would be the most comfortable heater for the unidyn, does not work with it.
Second: with the wand I have to exceed the click a lot or lower the adapter a lot, which makes the camera heat up ... and it heats up much faster than the balls, giving me conduction results.
Third: with the lighter (the same as the vapman but adding a little more power) it takes about 45 seconds to heat it up... it's a lot. With a triple flame or a double flame of the same size I can heat other heavier devices before. I could use a more powerful lighter. But I have seen that the cap begins to glow easily, and I want to avoid that.
I'll have to do many more tests apparently, but for now it seems to me the dynavap more difficult to use. I thought it was going to be a faster mini ball butane vape
First: my yllih, which would be the most comfortable heater for the unidyn, does not work with it.
Second: with the wand I have to exceed the click a lot or lower the adapter a lot, which makes the camera heat up ... and it heats up much faster than the balls, giving me conduction results.
Third: with the lighter (the same as the vapman but adding a little more power) it takes about 45 seconds to heat it up... it's a lot. With a triple flame or a double flame of the same size I can heat other heavier devices before. I could use a more powerful lighter. But I have seen that the cap begins to glow easily, and I want to avoid that.
I'll have to do many more tests apparently, but for now it seems to me the dynavap more difficult to use. I thought it was going to be a faster mini ball butane vape
zeebudz
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Well that's disappointing. Any idea why the titanium piece is not compatible?
hotmeals
Serial vapist
If you hold it far enough away and spin it fast enough it's easy to avoid any glowing. I went straight for the Firefox with mine since the cap is higher mass and I know it works well for the Armored Cap and FMJ.
pop22
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For a long time, until induction heaters came along, my DVs collected dust. I hate torches and the fiddly ritual associated with heating the DV to proper temperature ( yeah good luck.. ) I just wanted a good tasty hit without all that nonsense. Using it with the UFO IH finally got me using my DV vapes on a regular bassos. I look forward to trying the new armored cap with my 2021 M or my Vong. Not sure if I want to change tips, I'm a
"it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of guy.
"it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of guy.
coolbreeze
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Thank you, thank you! I'm still not perfect with it yet, but this had made a huge difference for me in terms of quality of roast and consistency.
'I've been using a regular DV heating technique (quick spin over a .5" single flame, just outside the bright inner flame and about 2/3 down the cap, or in this case .2-.5 the way down the marked section) and it's been tough to find any consistency. With the med-small Firefox flame aimed at the marked section and the DV spun at the edge of the light-blue outer flame, my results are just much, much better: No overheating smell, no glow, about the same heating time, a more even and less aggressive roast virtually every time. I'm even getting glimpses of excellent flavor.
I'll hone a bit but this will be my go-to technique with this vape. Thanks again for the vid!
kokolokokolokon
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No idea, it does (example of timer) 10-9-10-9-10-9…
Also, the cap and the balls are stainless steel.
(The titanium stem-chamber works
but with a normal-armored cap)I dont use big torch lighters. More or less powerful, but ever small. My flame is not very different than yours (on the video), but now i see your first heat up is just for flavor(?)
I use to spin it fast, and i avoid glowing, but if I aim the two last lines it takes a ton to click. And if i aim above them it clicks fast with no visible results.
I get similar results than you on the second heat up, it is just i didnt find the good config to get that results on the first heat up
hotmeals
Serial vapist
Yeah I still haven't quite gotten it ripping on the first hit with a torch yet, being careful. I think just going a little past the clicks, giving the bowl a little more preheat, and/or turning up the flame might be the ticket.
kokolokokolokon
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hotmeals
Serial vapist
Lol that might be a good idea actually, but it may be easy to damage the air intake on the cap. I guess you could attach it from the bottom. Shouldn't be necessary though. I've gotten great first heat hits with the Forge, so we should be able to achieve something similar with a torch.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
So I haven't really upped my DV game since around 2022. I've got a 2021 Omni and a SS 2021M that get the most use with a variety of stems. I briefly had a M7 and M7XL but gifted them to friends before really exploring them.
What tip/cap can anyone currently recommend to get good taste along with multiple draws per heat cycle? I would only be using the Wand.
I did like the M7XL when I briefly had it. Maybe if I paired it will a ballr cap or armored cap I could get what I'm looking for?
What tip/cap can anyone currently recommend to get good taste along with multiple draws per heat cycle? I would only be using the Wand.
I did like the M7XL when I briefly had it. Maybe if I paired it will a ballr cap or armored cap I could get what I'm looking for?
coolbreeze
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M7XL. With a torch I get two heatings with multiple hits, good flavor, even roast, etc. With the wand it's less aggressive and it may need a preheat round to build up heat. I don't think I've used it with an armored cap (and can't find it at the moment) but that may work with its strengths in an IH.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
Thanks for the input!
kokolokokolokon
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Maybe the short silver collar, which tales less space, so you wouldn’t need to attach it qhere the chamber or the intake air holes.
Well the forge have is very powerful and im sure it can penetrate the outer layer very well, so it do a “from the insides to outsides”. The opposite of a flame