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[TheScamericann]

How are folk finding the T.H.C cap for the hyperdyn? Is it a worthy upgrade? Kinda dissapointed in the stock hyperdyn to be honest. Willing to give it another shot if the T.H.C cap improves performance.

 

[HoodiesAndHondas]

Oh man I speant the last 2 days trying to get my new ballr to work. I’m heating right in the middle of the ball portion of the cap and currently I’m at 15 seconds past the click! Then I’ll get a good hit, but with all that heat how do I know the conduction heat isn’t making it down to the bowl and vaporising using conduction, instead? Not only that but 15 seconds past the click is, I think, totally absurd, and I can’t imagine the click lasting forever if I’m having to massively overheat the thing.

Anyone else?

Dynavap put out this video yesterday:

 

[coolbreeze]

Oh man I speant the last 2 days trying to get my new ballr to work. I’m heating right in the middle of the ball portion of the cap and currently I’m at 15 seconds past the click! Then I’ll get a good hit, but with all that heat how do I know the conduction heat isn’t making it down to the bowl and vaporising using conduction, instead? Not only that but 15 seconds past the click is, I think, totally absurd, and I can’t imagine the click lasting forever if I’m having to massively overheat the thing.

Anyone else?

I've had some trouble getting it to work well but I'm kind of getting the hang of it finally. I'm basically just heating it like normal: .5" single flame aimed at the middle of the solid part of the top of the cap while spinning to the clicks. You want to take it slowly to heat-soak the ball matrix. It's pretty sensitive to where you point so ymmv. but I'm starting to have pretty good results; first hit may be whispy sometimes. Fwiw, I'm using it on the Ti M7 bowl which has worked better for me than the Halo.

How are folk finding the T.H.C cap for the hyperdyn? Is it a worthy upgrade? Kinda dissapointed in the stock hyperdyn to be honest. Willing to give it another shot if the T.H.C cap improves performance.

The THC has been much easier to manage, and I like it way better than the normal cap. I've always gotten good results with the OG cap but I've found the vapor to be harsh feeling. Not an issue with the THC. I use a slightly more powerful flame for it (Firefox or PB207 set to about .6-.7") aimed at the windows/line, spun very slowly and lingering at the windows for a second or two before continuing, to the clicks. Works great with ~2 heatings.

 

[hotmeals]

Oh man I speant the last 2 days trying to get my new ballr to work. I’m heating right in the middle of the ball portion of the cap and currently I’m at 15 seconds past the click! Then I’ll get a good hit, but with all that heat how do I know the conduction heat isn’t making it down to the bowl and vaporising using conduction, instead? Not only that but 15 seconds past the click is, I think, totally absurd, and I can’t imagine the click lasting forever if I’m having to massively overheat the thing.

Anyone else?

If the other suggestions don't help, based on what you're describing, I would try a bigger flame / torch.

 

[Chicken No Name]

Loving that wooden stem! Where'd you get that?

It's a dynavap Omni hydra XL. Comes in this shade and light.
Still available at some places.

 

[lovecrush]

Electronic vapes come and go, but vapcap still reigns supreme in durability and reliability.

 

[SmokeyDope]

The new ball vape stuff looks exciting, wanted to hear some of you guys feedback before taking the pluge.

For anyone whos having trouble with getting consistent hits, I would perhaps suggest running the cap containing the balls through a few preheat cycles to allow the balls time to soak in the heat and distrbute it.

Heat it to second click, let cap cool to reset, do it again. Theoretically the more times you do this the more even and effective the balls become at distributing heat into the airflow. It might take a while more time than you expect like 3-5 preheat cycles maybe more. Im just speculating though.

I hope its the big improvement that improves everyone's experience that its hyped up to be!

 

[hotmeals]

I received the Unidyn today, and just tried my first few bowls with the Ballr Cap. I'm already loving it. Using a Blazer Firefox with ~0.5-0.75" inner flame about 0.5" away, aimed at the "rotate" lettering, heated all the way to second click. Great convection flavor and I'm blowing proper clouds starting with the third heat cycle. I'll have to experiment more to try to get it ripping from the first. Personally I had no issues using it on my Halo Tip, it worked beautifully there for me. Very consistent with the Unidyn. Next to try is a B Tip. I'm going to have a lot of fun with this cap!

 

[jefferson9]

Any instructions on changing the balls in the ballr cap? Assuming you remove the retaining screen somehow like the tempest?

 

[hotmeals]

Any instructions on changing the balls in the ballr cap? Assuming you remove the retaining screen somehow like the tempest?

Not that I'm aware of. I couldn't see an obvious way to do it so I'm probably going to wait to try it

 

[undecided]

Not that I'm aware of. I couldn't see an obvious way to do it so I'm probably going to wait to try it

Looks like that retaining screen comes out but I'm scared to pry at it just yet

 

[VapeEscapist]

I love the new THC.

Maybe the extraction is a tiny bit less thorough but otherwise I think it's superior to the armored cap I was already in love with.

I was a little impulsive when I bought it, didn't look more closely to realize it won't fit my Yllvape 2.0. In fact it seems it's basically torch only as you want a heat source passing through the cap windows to the beads.

I'm using a pretty weak torch and allowing it to warm a second or 2 past the click to let things get milky. I'm not thrilled about going back to a torch and was hoping someone had results with a heater they could share.

Edit: I also find blowing through the window cools faster than heat sink. And I do like this cap in theory for travel, I always like carrying less. Just buy a small can of butane wherever you land.

 

[Ramahs]

I'm not thrilled about going back to a torch and was hoping someone had results with a heater they could share.

I don't see why you couldn't use it with the induction heaters popular for use with Dynavap vapes. You can also get the steel balls so it heats more efficiently with an induction heater. Pretty sure I remember Dynavap saying as much in one of their recent info videos about the T.H.C.

 

[Seantagon]

I was using the armor cap when suddenly it stop fitting snug. It's very loose and falls off with little effort. I tried squeezing like a regular captive cap, but it it's too strong. Should I use some tools? I also noticed the indentation on the inside doesnt line up with captive indentation on the outside.

 

[coolbreeze]

I was using the armor cap when suddenly it stop fitting snug. It's very loose and falls off with little effort. I tried squeezing like a regular captive cap, but it it's too strong. Should I use some tools? I also noticed the indentation on the inside doesnt line up with captive indentation on the outside.

Idk about that, but I did notice that the THC fits the bowl I bought with it, but not the bowl that came on my HyperDyn--it's way too loose. I'm not even sure if I could adjust the digger enough to have it stay on, but it would still be loose around the bowl. My Hyper is the OG limited-sale one.

 

[VapeEscapist]

Can anyone give me a quick run down on heaters that fit the THC, please?

I love the Yllvape 2.0.
Would like something with similar features but I know that's a lot to ask.

 

[hotmeals]

Next to try is a B Tip.

After a couple of attempts, I have not been able to get great results with a B Tip / Ballr Cap. I think there's too much air coming in from the sides. I can, however, report some very ripping and tasty bowls with the SS 2017 and 2021 M Tips. SS M7 was alright but seemed not as good, which was unexpected. I'm going to have to try it again, very well may have been my technique on that one. I've started liking to give the bowl a little preheat after the clicks. I can get into the thickness on the second hit this way, and after that only heat the ball section until it's done. I think it will be possible to get dense hits on the first heating too. AVB has been nice and even, and easy to consistently get where I want it with the clicks. Works really well with small amounts. I like that you can now have 2 very different experiences with just a cap switch. Unidyn with a normal cap will probably be my new pocket setup.

 

[undecided]

I've been messing with the ballr cap and the m7xl native, then in a globe, and then the tip with a no carb wpa in a globe, I noticed you can start getting thick vapor if you start inhaling before the first click with the wand

 

[Flotsam]

So i just got an M7 less than a week ago. I've learned a few things about the device regarding the application of heat, grind, etc. but I have had a few questions\observations\issues as well. This forum in particular has been very insightful.

• I have had a few burnt loads that clearly was my fault. In at least one case i heard the light click but never heard the louder click to indicate completion so i kept torching. What i think i am figuring out is what i should be doing is once i hear that first click & then go no more than another 15-20 seconds and STOP even if i don't hear that second click. I also don't add the burnt offerings to the ABV jar.
• I also had a question about having a medium grind. I had just gotten some herb that was waay too moist and probably wasn't cured properly. It was a consistency that might even be difficult to smoke if that gives you an idea. It made for a really bad time with that bowl as i had horrible draw and thought it was clogged and I just abandoned it to the AVB jar. I had kinda expected that torching it would have driven out the moisture but in this case it made for the impossibly poor draw which puzzles me.
• From looking at my AVB & excluding burnt offerings I am getting a pretty complete roast on my weed (85%). I see little spots here and there where i clearly burnt it w the torch. Finally unloading the AVB i marvel at how little was in the bowl in the first place.
• What natural question i have now is that since I know what the experience in general for using an M7 how would the experience DIFFER if we are talking about another device, like lets say a Hyperdyn ? Is this like a size up in terms of oven size? What about similar type devices (eg Anvil )?
• and maybe I could understand the myriad of accessories you can get for these? Why an alternate cap? (although that seems like an item that can easily get lost). Are there performance enhancing accessories? Ballr cap?
• I think what i like about the M7 is the simplicity of it. Nothing to charge or have to overly prepare. But i have found it difficult to use outside even in a light wind.

Enjoying what i got!

 

[coolbreeze]

So i just got an M7 less than a week ago. I've learned a few things about the device regarding the application of heat, grind, etc. but I have had a few questions\observations\issues as well. This forum in particular has been very insightful.

• I have had a few burnt loads that clearly was my fault. In at least one case i heard the light click but never heard the louder click to indicate completion so i kept torching. What i think i am figuring out is what i should be doing is once i hear that first click & then go no more than another 15-20 seconds and STOP even if i don't hear that second click.

The clicks can be tricky this way but you will get used to how yours sounds soon enough and know what to expect. I think I'd go less time after I heard a click, maybe 5 secs at most. This will be critical when you use a Ti tip at some point.

• I also don't add the burnt offerings to the ABV jar.
• I also had a question about having a medium grind. I had just gotten some herb that was waay too moist and probably wasn't cured properly. It was a consistency that might even be difficult to smoke if that gives you an idea. It made for a really bad time with that bowl as i had horrible draw and thought it was clogged and I just abandoned it to the AVB jar. I had kinda expected that torching it would have driven out the moisture but in this case it made for the impossibly poor draw which puzzles me.

Kind of stands to reason, it's like a gooey joint that won't smoke. I'd just set some out the night before and let it dry as much as possible.

• From looking at my AVB & excluding burnt offerings I am getting a pretty complete roast on my weed (85%). I see little spots here and there where i clearly burnt it w the torch.

You really shouldn't see much visible scorching with a low, slow, single-flame heating to the clicks, unless you purposely take it as dark as you can. Using a big flame to speed things up brings all kind of unfortunate possibilities.

• Finally unloading the AVB i marvel at how little was in the bowl in the first place.

Especially when you feel the effects!

• What natural question i have now is that since I know what the experience in general for using an M7 how would the experience DIFFER if we are talking about another device, like lets say a Hyperdyn ?

With a std Ti tip, you get quicker heating and cooling, but it's not as forgiving so it's much easier to scorch; vapor will run out quicker between heatings than with an M7 tip. With a HyperDyn, I've just heated it like a regular DV with a slightly bigger flame aimed low on the cap, sometimes pulled further away to slow it down a bit. It works surprisingly well. That said I really prefer the THC cap for it, the vapor is less harsh.

• Is this like a size up in terms of oven size? What about similar type devices (eg Anvil )?

Yeah, it's twice the size. The Hyper holds more than most of the other heavier TED-style devices. Those are mostly convection vapes so they taste and feel a bit different, and they do tend to hold heat longer. They Hyper does both conduction and convection depending on the cap but I would say its heat retention with the THC tends to be a little shorter than avg among them.

• and maybe I could understand the myriad of accessories you can get for these? Why an alternate cap? (although that seems like an item that can easily get lost). Are there performance enhancing accessories? Ballr cap?

The low-temp cap is awesome, it clicks just a couple seconds sooner and is great with Ti tips; all-around better for flavor with any tip. The armored cap and the copper/silver/steel bands help the cap retain heat longer, often making it a one-heat bowl. The perforated caps are really best with the Helix and make it very open-hitting. The Ballr and THC turn DVs into convection devices. The ballr's a little tricky (I'm still not perfect with it) but the THC is easy and effective.

• I think what i like about the M7 is the simplicity of it. Nothing to charge or have to overly prepare. But i have found it difficult to use outside even in a light wind.

This is when double or triple flame torches are helpful, but still can be challenging since the parameters change with the wind. An induction heater is the easiest way to heat outdoors, but not always as easy to carry.

Enjoying what i got!

Glad to hear it! The M7 rocks! It's a great tip for Vong stems, fwiw.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

I got my brother started vaping after over 30 years of joints and bongs. I gave him a Dynavap and an induction heater. He is a full time vaporist now but still new. But he would have probably failed with just a torch. I put down DV's a few times just because I had problems.
I like butane devices. I use daily Anvil,Tornado,and DV's. The first 2 are my go to's. But more often than not My DV's get used the most and I don't torch them. I use The Wand.
I don't get caught up in the DV products after 2021. The ones I have work very well and I just don't believe there is much difference. I have tried diff caps and most of the tips.
Sounds like The Anvil Thermocore might be something you would like.
Buy a Wand...they go on sale all the time. I bought a second one for $85. This will jump start your DV journey.

 

[hotmeals]

What i think i am figuring out is what i should be doing is once i hear that first click & then go no more than another 15-20 seconds and STOP even if i don't hear that second click

15-20 seconds sounds like way too long to wait for the second click. I'd say 5 seconds past the first click is already risking overheating IMO. Second click should usually come before then I think. Personally, I only torch until the first click with the normal caps unless I feel like I need a little extra heat to finish it off because of ambient conditions or the way the rhythm of that particular bowl went. I like to heat it to below click temp for the first few hits, and I'll get one or two nice full clouds before I start heating to the click.

I had kinda expected that torching it would have driven out the moisture but in this case it made for the impossibly poor draw which puzzles me.

Dynavaps handle herb of any moisture content with ease IME. This sounds like you probably overpacked it. It's easier to pack too tight with moister herb.

how would the experience DIFFER if we are talking about another device, like lets say a Hyperdyn ? Is this like a size up in terms of oven size? What about similar type devices (eg Anvil )?

Haven't used one, but the Hyperdyn design is basically just a big bowl Vapcap. The Anvil is a totally different vape due to its air gapped hybrid heating system. Every aspect of the Anvil signature is different: flavor, vapor texture, effect.

Why an alternate cap? (although that seems like an item that can easily get lost). Are there performance enhancing accessories? Ballr cap?

The Armored Cap or FMJ allow you to easily one hit the bowl at a lower temp than with a normal cap. The Ballr cap turns it into a ball vape and gives it much more of a hybrid signature, similar to the Anvil.


Edit to avoid double post:

SS M7 was alright but seemed not as good, which was unexpected. I'm going to have to try it again, very well may have been my technique on that one.

I tried the Ballr on the stainless M7 tip again, and the hits were still subpar. So, its universality seems a little disappointing as of yet. Maybe with bigger balls it would work better on the higher airflow tips. It would probably never be as good as the low airflow tips though.

 

[Barefoot1]

I’ve got a 2021 Dynavap M. I use an induction heater. I’ve been keeping the loaded M stored in the freezer until I’m ready for it. It makes the first few cycles very smooth. Been doing it for about a month or so. Doesn’t seem to hurt the cap. It basically lives in the freezer when not in use. Anybody else do this? (Haven’t tried it with torch yet)

 

[VapeEscapist]

I wasn't even getting to the 2nd click on the THC.


Definitely a smoother experience, and hits big pretty easily.

I'm sorry if this was discussed earlier in the thread but... Can someone suggest induction heaters that fit this size cap? My Yllvape is too small

 

[Principal Guy]

Troy and Jerry seemed to have unfavorable reviews of the UniDyn ball vape last night on podcast. Seemed tricky to get a good hit and Troy did not like the flavor of the stainless steel balls. I was expecting to order one soon, but now I am not so sure. Someone convince me otherwise!