budski

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Maybe the short silver collar, which tales less space, so you wouldn’t need to attach it qhere the chamber or the intake air holes.

Well the forge have is very powerful and im sure it can penetrate the outer layer very well, so it do a “from the insides to outsides”. The opposite of a flame
I use a short sliver collar on a perf cap to retain the heat so the air flow doesn't cool it as fast. It does add to the heat up time in the wand so if I'm doing 1/2 bowls it's more efficient to get a quick hit and short reheat w/out the extra heatmass.
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hotmeals

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Well the forge have is very powerful and im sure it can penetrate the outer layer very well, so it do a “from the insides to outsides”. The opposite of a flame
True. In the end though, both methods get the heat in, and with the BallR Cap's convection dominant nature, we don't really need to be in a rush to do it. Getting the heat in faster or slower shouldn't make too big of a difference since the herb isn't really cooking while heating the ball section. So I think it will be possible to get similar results with either, just need to do some more experimentation.
 

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True. In the end though, both methods get the heat in, and with the BallR Cap's convection dominant nature, we don't really need to be in a rush to do it. Getting the heat in faster or slower shouldn't make too big of a difference since the herb isn't really cooking while heating the ball section. So I think it will be possible to get similar results with either, just need to do some more experimentation.
Well, this is just my opinion, but i think the point on the ballr cap is to have a mini ballvape which heat up/cool down faster than other butane ball vapes (keeping the dynavap topic: like the hyperdyn + ball cap).
I see a problem if you need almost the same time to heat the unidyn and to heat the hyperdyn+balls (i know the ballr cap is “compatible” with other tips and it is cheaper too).
(This in case you use a flame. I need to try the thc cap)
 
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but i think the point on the ballr cap is to have a mini ballvape which heat up/cool down faster than other butane ball vapes
Oh definitely, I think so too. That's a big part of the reason I wanted one. I was referring only to vapor quality/performance there. It heats up quite quickly with the Firefox, and I expect a triple flame would be pretty quick also. Understandable though if you want to only use the same single torch that you would use on a normal Dyna.
 

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@any brave souls

I wiggled mine a bit but it seems to take a lot more force than I'm comfortable with

Wonder if there's a point near the middle you're supposed to pinch to get it to release or something.
 

doohickey

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I'm new to the forum, but vaping almost exclusively with a 2020 M with half bowl converter daily for 5 years. I bought the Baller cap to get a little convection in my life (using with my M stem). My first hit was amazing with vapor amount and density, but the reheat scorched and tasted like ass (all hits respecting the click). Also the flavor was very convection, but sort of off and harsh. I've noticed almost everyone gets a light flavor hit first, then the cloud, which is not my experience at all. I think there is a calibration issue with the click disc and the steel balls. Perhaps the amount of balls or density of the steel balls effects the calibration. I'm exclusively a lighter guy, so I want to switch the balls ASAP to see if I get better results.

I did see a video of the ball swapping procedure, and it seems pretty straight forward for the average person. I don't think I'll use this thing at all with these steel balls.

Do you guys know an affordable source of different balls to test? Which type of balls would you guys suggest?
 

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Hello.

I own a 2017 M and a 2019(i love that) a mighty(mk1) and a TM2.

I never tried any anvil-vestratto or dani-fusion units.

Is there any upgraded vapcap should I try or any other similar worth it among lots of butane vape? I saw lots if new stuff on dynavap website..i do not know anything they invented during the last three years!!(after low temp cap/armored cap and captive cap i do not what happened)

I would lile to stay on dynavap because i like the portability and sturdy builld of the pioneer click vape and actually I do not need anything hiting harder than my M. I would like to have a better airflow(like mighty have)on a butane/click vape and jn some occasion some draw more instead of one click each one.(better FMG or armored cap for this purpose?)

Do you have any suggestion? Sorry for.my eng!

What about the newer conduction cap dynavap sent me into my subscribed newsletter?
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Ciaooo
 
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Hello.

I own a 2017 M and a 2019(i love that) a mighty(mk1) and a TM2.

I never tried any anvil-vestratto or dani-fusion units.

Is there any upgraded vapcap should I try or any other similar worth it among lots of butane vape? I saw lots if new stuff on dynavap website..i do not know anything they invented during the last three years!!(after low temp cap/armored cap and captive cap i do not what happened)

I would lile to stay on dynavap because i like the portability and sturdy builld of the pioneer click vape and actually I do not need anything hiting harder than my M. I would like to have a better airflow(like mighty have)on a butane/click vape and jn some occasion some draw more instead of one click each one.(better FMG or armored cap for this purpose?)

Do you have any suggestion? Sorry for.my eng!

What about the newer conduction cap dynavap sent me into my subscribed newsletter?
Convection cap?
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Ciaooo
The the FMJ extends the same amount of heat for a longer period of time, giving you more hits per heating. The Armored cap does the same. The M7 does as well, but not necessarily as easily as the two caps (the FMJ requires a captive cap dedicated to it).

The new Ballr cap turns your DV into a ball vape, or in other words it make it convection-oriented rather than the usual conduction orientation. It's a little tricky to get used to but it's pretty fun and nice and open airflow.

Another with an open draw is the Woodwynd:

It's the most open-airflow conduction vape they've made and it can make big hits, or very nice flavor hits. I would suggest using the Perforated cap with it--this helps open the airflow even more, it's pretty amazing for a DV setup.

Or, if you want to spend less you can use the Perforated cap with the Helix tip on your own stem.

Finally there's the HyperDyn which is a very large bowl with a big hit. You can get a ball vape cap for that one as well--it's really good that way.

Enjoy!
 
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René

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If you want a complete Dynavap, check out the Woodwynd:

It's the most open-airflow vape they've made and it can make big hits, or very nice flavor hits. I would suggest using the Perforated cap with it--this helps open the airflow even more, it's pretty amazing for a DV setup.

Or, if you want to spend less you can use the Perforated cap with the Helix tip on your own stem.

Enjoy!


sorry convection cap I meant the ball cap.
So the M7 has a new cap?

Fmj need a captive cap(that i do not have) does armored cap work well too?

I could put preforated cap in my 2017 that has an orrible air flow but whic are the cons respect the OG one?

Is there any sort of armored/high retention cap prefored for less draw resistance?

What would give (aesthetic a part)buy a brend new woodwynd ?

And what about ",thermal hyper core" and any other new stuff i missed?

Thankyou again Sptry for many questions
 
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Thankyou so much! I could put this new tip in my 2017 that has an orrible air flow!
Yes, it would work!
What would give (aesthetic a part)buy a brend new woodwynd ?
I'm not sure just what you mean, but it's just a nice looking wooden vape with and adjustable condenser. It comes with the Helix tip which is where the airflow performance happens, especially with the perforated cap.
And what about the new "ball" cap,thermal hyper core and any other new stuff?
The the FMJ extends the same amount of heat for a longer period of time, giving you more hits per heating. The Armored cap does the same. The M7 does as well, but not necessarily as easily as the two caps (the FMJ requires a captive cap dedicated to it).

The new Ballr cap turns your DV into a ball vape, or in other words it make it convection-oriented rather than the usual conduction orientation. It's a little tricky to get used to but it's pretty fun and nice and open airflow.

Finally there's the HyperDyn which is a very large bowl with a big hit. You can get a ball vape cap for that one as well--it's really good that way.
Thankyou again
sure thing!
 
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Sorry i edited my previous message. So could I put togheter helix tip with a preforated cap for maximum airflow BUT classic low heat retention OR joint helix tip to armored cap for good heating retenction and better airflow than my 2017 and 2019 ?
 

coolbreeze

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Sorry i edited my previous message. So could I put togheter helix tip with a preforated cap for maximum airflow BUT classic low heat retention OR joint helix tip to armored cap for good heating retenction and better airflow than my 2017 and 2019 ?
Yes, it would work like that. I just tried the Helix with the armored cap and the airflow is still noticeably more open than with the M21 and M7 tips I have handy (although the airflow's pretty good with the M7, too). The Helix/AC would certainly be more open than the AC with the older Ms. I got like 5 or so hits with the armored cap and Helix from one round of heating, and about 3 more with a second heating. The Armored Cap will work with an induction heater while the captive cap/FMJ combo won't, but it will retain heat just a little longer than the AC.

Both the armored and the perforated caps will work with your older tips, too, but the perforated cap will not hugely improved older tips' airflow due to the smaller serrations on the top of the bowl. I just tried the AC on the M19, though, and it's awesome!
 
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Managed to get the ballr cap open. It was painful. But looks to be a bit easier after you break the initial seal. Still closes back together tightly.

The sapphire balls do feel a bit better in terms of heat up/cool down time with respect to the click, although not sure if it's because of the reduced airflow (feels significantly tighter than the 3mm steel) or the thermal density properties of the balls, either way I'm having a much easier time hitting the temperature I'm going for with a torch.

Would venture a guess they made the steel balls the default to perform well with the wand and give a bit more airflow.
 

coolbreeze

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Managed to get the ballr cap open. It was painful. But looks to be a bit easier after you break the initial seal. Still closes back together tightly.

The sapphire balls do feel a bit better in terms of heat up/cool down time with respect to the click, although not sure if it's because of the reduced airflow (feels significantly tighter than the 3mm steel) or the thermal density properties of the balls, either way I'm having a much easier time hitting the temperature I'm going for with a torch.

Would venture a guess they made the steel balls the default to perform well with the wand and give a bit more airflow.
I may have to try this.
 
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hotmeals

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I tried the Ballr on the stainless M7 tip again, and the hits were still subpar. So, its universality seems a little disappointing as of yet.
I gave the SS M7 / BallR combo another go and had a really nice bowl this time. After comparing tip airflows directly with the Unidyn, neither the M7 nor B feel so much more open that they will steal too much air from the BallR cap. So, I decided to try again with a little more preheat to the bowl, and it worked perfectly. I'm guessing this is just differences in tip mass that need to be compensated for with the technique I'm currently using. I'm hopeful that I can get the B tip running well with the BallR also, it would be great with a dedicated half bowl. Which reminds me, after using the Unidyn for a bit now, I've been feeling like its chamber is a little smaller than a standard DV tip, and it is! I held it side by side with a couple other tips earlier. Not sure if this was commonly known already.
 

hotmeals

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I gave the SS M7 / BallR combo another go and had a really nice bowl this time. After comparing tip airflows directly with the Unidyn, neither the M7 nor B feel so much more open that they will steal too much air from the BallR cap. So, I decided to try again with a little more preheat to the bowl, and it worked perfectly. I'm guessing this is just differences in tip mass that need to be compensated for with the technique I'm currently using. I'm hopeful that I can get the B tip running well with the BallR also, it would be great with a dedicated half bowl. Which reminds me, after using the Unidyn for a bit now, I've been feeling like its chamber is a little smaller than a standard DV tip, and it is! I held it side by side with a couple other tips earlier. Not sure if this was commonly known already.
I got a couple of nice bowls on the B tip also :tup:Loving the Ballr more and more. Edit time ran out as I was editing lol
 
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Hello.

I own a 2017 M and a 2019(i love that) a mighty(mk1) and a TM2.

I never tried any anvil-vestratto or dani-fusion units.

Is there any upgraded vapcap should I try or any other similar worth it among lots of butane vape? I saw lots if new stuff on dynavap website..i do not know anything they invented during the last three years!!(after low temp cap/armored cap and captive cap i do not what happened)

I would lile to stay on dynavap because i like the portability and sturdy builld of the pioneer click vape and actually I do not need anything hiting harder than my M. I would like to have a better airflow(like mighty have)on a butane/click vape and jn some occasion some draw more instead of one click each one.(better FMG or armored cap for this purpose?)

Do you have any suggestion? Sorry for.my eng!

What about the newer conduction cap dynavap sent me into my subscribed newsletter?
Best regards


Ciaooo
You mean Convection cap?
The Hyper Tip and Ball Cap is by far the best dynavap combo I've ever tried, and the way I've always wanted a dynavap to be since first starting with a 2019M. The airflow is nearly wide open, not as wide as an Elev8r but really open for a dynavap. Uses only slightly more gas than the standard hyper tip, been using a triple torch. Possible to finish a bowl cleanly, even roast, in one gigantic toke, or 3 large ones, or for sipping away lightly with the great heat retention.

With regard to clicks for the hyper range - the first click is accurate, as long as the heating was in the right place, but after that, the cool down and reheat clicks are way off. I disregard the clicks after the first and go by vaponic experience, minus the visual. I usually reheat a standard hyper tip for 6-10seconds after a first toke, and the ball cap for twice that length. Higher quality vapour from the hyper tip with the ball cap, it's tastier, and much less at risk of getting scorched at the edges, and its more plentyful - a hyper bowl in one toke is a lot of vapour. I'm hyper toked right now, its a different effect too from convection. Suits my sativa side more.

Wanted to post a pic of my rig, can we not upload pics on FC?
 

coolbreeze

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Daaammnn I've been wanting a Vong, but what the hell is this?

Should I get one anyway? lol
Absolutely, YES! My favorite DV more or less, use them every day. I have one of these stabwood Vongs (mine is tight but does spin) and I like it and the reg wood Vongs better than the all-Ti ones, fwiw. I think that phrase is a standard disclaimer for wooden sleeve Vongs.

Each of mine has a different tip on it for a variety of hits/uses. The black tips are standard Ti tips, fwiw, but the Helix is probably the better choice for this. The Ti M7 tip will be awesome with the Vong, but they also still have Vong tips with the coil:
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Absolutely, YES! My favorite DV more or less, use them every day. I have one of these stabwood Vongs (mine is tight but does spin) and I like it and the reg wood Vongs better than the all-Ti ones, fwiw. I think that phrase is a standard disclaimer for wooden sleeve Vongs.

Each of mine has a different tip on it for a variety of hits/uses. The black tips are standard Ti tips, fwiw, but the Helix is probably the better choice for this. The Ti M7 tip will be awesome with the Vong, but they also still have Vong tips with the coil:
By far my most reached for DV is a wood sleeve VonG as a base. I like the VonG tip. I was just doing some Blue dream in it using the Ballr cap and the Wand on a GVB U-hook.
 

hotmeals

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I think that phrase is a standard disclaimer for wooden sleeve Vongs.
Alright that's kinda what I was thinking / hoping. I've been convinced. Grabbed one of the Azuriums with a Helix tip since I don't feel too much of a desire to try a standard Ti tip now that I have a Halo. The black does look nice though. Probably would have gotten a Rosium if I had seen this earlier, but the blue is cool too. I did also snag another Ti M7 tip to mess around with. I have one that I've been using exclusively with a Dynacoil which has been working very very well for me, so I am curious to see how it does with herb and how it compares to the stainless M7, and I think you're right that it would be good for bonging. I'm actually mostly interested in the Vong for the adjustable airflow, since you can tune it more finely than the adjustable condensers, and will probably be using it natively most of the time, but I'll definitely be dropping it into glass more often than I normally do. Not sure which tip will ultimately live on it. May not be a bong / big hit oriented tip, though I do expect the Ti M7 to also be good for slower sessions like the SS version is, so there's a pretty good chance it will either be that or the Helix it comes with. Thank You!
 
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