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[coolbreeze]

Alright that's kinda what I was thinking / hoping. I've been convinced. Grabbed one of the Azuriums with a Helix tip since I don't feel too much of a desire to try a standard Ti tip now that I have a Halo. The black does look nice though. Probably would have gotten a Rosium if I had seen this earlier, but the blue is cool too.

Yeah, that one's pretty sweet. I have a blue M20 that's pretty gorgeous. I think the 21 was even nicer. I was thinking about the Rosium one, too--it's the most stunning imo. I chose the Verdium instead. It'll make a full set for me; the Omni and the M as so nice, I use them all the time, especially in the woods.

I did also snag another Ti M7 tip to mess around with. I have one that I've been using exclusively with a Dynacoil which has been working very very well for me, so I am curious to see how it does with herb and how it compares to the stainless M7, and I think you're right that it would be good for bonging.

I have one on a Nona shorty and I really dig that setup.

I'm actually mostly interested in the Vong for the adjustable airflow, since you can tune it more finely than the adjustable condensers, and will probably be using it natively most of the time, but I'll definitely be dropping it into glass more often than I normally do.

If the sleeve is sticky, I'd just try to adjust it for the airflow you like best native and leave it. It's really easy to find the airport and cover it for use through water.

Not sure which tip will ultimately live on it. May not be a bong / big hit oriented tip, though I do expect the Ti M7 to also be good for slower sessions like the SS version is, so there's a pretty good chance it will either be that or the Helix it comes with.

Both are really nice with it, either way you win.

Thank You!

Absolutely. It's a great Dynavap, I really hope you enjoy it!

 

[budski]

rosie and azur should ship todayforgot to add the caps tho
couldn't spring for verdi too so got some FOMO goin there lol but looking forward to mix n matching parts

 

[hotmeals]

Man I've gotta say, the Unidyn with a normal cap has quickly become probably my favorite Dynavap experience. It's the most joint feeling vape I've held and the airport is easy to find and to partially obstruct. The hits it produces are so fluffy and tasty. I almost don't want to hit anything else

 

[coolbreeze]

Man I've gotta say, the Unidyn with a normal cap has quickly become probably my favorite Dynavap experience. It's the most joint feeling vape I've held and the airport is easy to find and to partially obstruct. The hits it produces are so fluffy and tasty. I almost don't want to hit anything else

Yeah, not bad at all!

 

[coolbreeze]

What tip/cap can anyone currently recommend to get good taste along with multiple draws per heat cycle?

First round, 8 hits with visible vapor (5 were substantial). Second round, 4 hits with visible vapor, 2 hits were substantial.

First round, flavor, nothing visible; second round, 3 visible, 2 substantial; third round, 3 visible, 1 substantial; fourth round 2 visible, 1 ~substantial.

EDIT: I just tried using my regular heating style with the captive cap (same technique as I used with both caps above). First heating I got 7 hits with visible vapor, 6 were substantial with a couple being very big; second round was 6 visible hits, 4 of which were substantial, one of them was very large. (The pic shows the herbs as being much darker than reality. It's actually a fairly even coffee-grounds roast).

Upshot for me is that the armored cap seems to work almost as a low-temp cap in this case. Everything is fully extracted in each pic (or at least none are producing more vapor using my technique), all three attempts were using a .5" single-flame 2/3 or so down the cap, heated to the clicks.

 

[HighTime]

First round, 8 hits with visible vapor (5 were substantial). Second round, 4 hits with visible vapor, 2 hits were substantial.

First round, flavor, nothing visible; second round, 3 visible, 2 substantial; third round, 3 visible, 1 substantial; fourth round 2 visible, 1 ~substantial.

Hey, CB. Which cap are you using along with the M7 tip in the first picture?

 

[jbm]

Hey, CB. Which cap are you using along with the M7 tip in the first picture?

Looks like the armored cap to me

 

[coolbreeze]

Hey, CB. Which cap are you using along with the M7 tip in the first picture?

Yes, it's the armored cap.

 

[HighTime]

Yes, it's the armored cap.

Thanks!

 

[Vape_Or_Die420]

What do people think about the armored cap compared to the Simrell stainless steel FMJ?

 

[hotmeals]

What do people think about the armored cap compared to the Simrell stainless steel FMJ?

I think they perform about the same, without having done any back to back comparisons. I prefer the Armored Cap right now because it's one piece and the thicker steel goes all the way around. My Armored Cap does fit on tips a little looser than my SSFMJed cap, but it hasn't fallen off. The Armored Cap's digger outer is thick and stays hot. With the FMJ, you can hold the cap by the digger outer with your bare hands right after a bowl. Maybe later tonight or tomorrow I'll do a side by side comparison, I've been wondering about it myself.

Edit:
Just tried some back to backs on two different B tips. Turns out my Armored Cap is way looser than my FMJ'd cap and I am actually able to shake it off, which is somewhat concerning. I didn't weigh them, but I think the Armored Cap is thicker and heavier. It does seem to hold heat a little bit longer. I think I like the hits from the Armored Cap a little more, but you can pretty much do the same thing with either. The difference may be more pronounced on a standard sized tip, but I know I have also one hit those with the SS FMJ using almost the same heating technique, so probably still not huge.

 

[coolbreeze]

Vong Acrylic has landed--it's pretty sweet! I appreciate especially that the acrylic fill on mine is not dyed but rather contains a sprinkling of glitter in the same green color.

Mine came with a black standard Ti tip, but I prefer the M21 for this vape. The black tip looked surprisingly cool thanks to the mostly black sleeve but I had an extra VerdiuM tip which I like a little better.

About the sleeve: it does indeed have a reduced range of motion compared to other Vongs, but it does close off and open completely in both directions, it just won't spin all the way around. It stays where you put it so reducing air intake is completely adjustable. I ordered a green anodized Vong many moons ago from an after-market stem maker, but it was not to be. Finally I've got a green vong and I love it!

 

[SmokeyDope]

Hey coolbreeze thanks for sharing glad you finnaly got a green vong. Thats some cool green glass youve got going on in the background too!

 

[coolbreeze]

Hey coolbreeze thanks for sharing glad you finnaly got a green vong. Thats some cool green glass youve got going on in the background too!

Thanks, that's a fab orb. The reduced volume and larger surface area make it really nice dry--perfect for the Tornado for instance.

 

[jbm]

it just won't spin all the way around. It stays where you put it so reducing air intake is completely adjustable

Unacceptable, utter failure on DV's part, trying to sell us SOS, I demand maximum spinitude, alarums and excursions etc etc /sarc

 

[Highartisan]

I made some new dynavap stems and I thought I’d share them! Check out highartisan.com if your interested in more

 

[hotmeals]

Vong Acrylic has landed--it's pretty sweet! I appreciate especially that the acrylic fill on mine is not dyed but rather contains a sprinkling of glitter in the same green color.

Mine came with a black standard Ti tip, but I prefer the M21 for this vape. The black tip looked surprisingly cool thanks to the mostly black sleeve but I had an extra VerdiuM tip which I like a little better.

About the sleeve: it does indeed have a reduced range of motion compared to other Vongs, but it does close off and open completely in both directions, it just won't spin all the way around. It stays where you put it so reducing air intake is completely adjustable. I ordered a green anodized Vong many moons ago from an after-market stem maker, but it was not to be. Finally I've got a green vong and I love it!

Awesome, mine should hopefully be coming tomorrow. Glad to hear the full airflow range is accessible. Liking the blue more and more each time I look at the lineup pic on the website!

 

[borbjorbis]

Really did not expect this, but the Hyperdyn has possibly become my go to vape. It just produces the most well-rounded high for me, the signature seeps deep into my body and is much brighter and warmer than my other Dynavaps.

I've been using whole nug pretty much exclusively with it, and I break off fairly small pieces that would fit in a regular sized DV too. As such there's lot of empty space around the nug – I wonder if that causes more convection heating to occur? If so, a pretty cool and possibly inadvertent advantage to the larger bowl. Who would've thought Dynavap's long-awaited increased volume heavy hitter would make such a great microdoser.

I had pretty much no interest in it and never would have gotten it at full price originally, but now if I lost it I'd probably be willing to replace it at full price. Thinking I need to pick up one of those cooling stands, or maybe a leather case. Cools down fast enough already but would be great to immediately pocket it when on the go.

Also, does anyone have any suggestions for aesthetically pleasing stems to pair with the HyperDyn? The tip and cap are pretty weirdly proportioned – so far I think the stock stem looks best with them, they look clunky on everything else I own. But would def be interested in a more stylish stem if there's a good fit.

 

[coolbreeze]

Really did not expect this, but the Hyperdyn has possibly become my go to vape. It just produces the most well-rounded high for me, the signature seeps deep into my body and is much brighter and warmer than my other Dynavaps.

I've been using whole nug pretty much exclusively with it, and I break off fairly small pieces that would fit in a regular sized DV too. As such there's lot of empty space around the nug – I wonder if that causes more convection heating to occur? If so, a pretty cool and possibly inadvertent advantage to the larger bowl. Who would've thought Dynavap's long-awaited increased volume heavy hitter would make such a great microdoser.

I had pretty much no interest in it and never would have gotten it at full price originally, but now if I lost it I'd probably be willing to replace it at full price. Thinking I need to pick up one of those cooling stands, or maybe a leather case. Cools down fast enough already but would be great to immediately pocket it when on the go.

Also, does anyone have any suggestions for aesthetically pleasing stems to pair with the HyperDyn? The tip and cap are pretty weirdly proportioned – so far I think the stock stem looks best with them, they look clunky on everything else I own. But would def be interested in a more stylish stem if there's a good fit.

I really enjoy my wpa stem from @kegstandman420 (he's got a store now), and Dovetail Woodworks makes stems that are thicker and lined, as well.

Have you tried the Thermal Hyper Cap yet?

Awesome, mine should hopefully be coming tomorrow. Glad to hear the full airflow range is accessible. Liking the blue more and more each time I look at the lineup pic on the website!

Look forward to seeing it!

 

[Flotsam]

My letter to George Breiwa and Dynavap advertising:

I am a new Dynavap M7 user. After a few weeks getting experience with my M7 and learning the Ritual practice of loading, heating & enjoying my device. Yet i recognize there is a lot more out there than my M7 that your company sells.

So as a new user my question is where do i go from here? You obviously have a range of parts upgrades/replacements that exist for a reason yet the descriptions of these are a bit inadequate in my opinion. Let me cite some specific examples to illustrate my point. But the general observation is that it does not answer the question "if I get this part or that part what will it do for me?"

My perception is that there are some things like stems that are more aestetically pleasing like glass pieces, stems etc but how does it make the experience different than the stock M7 product? Will glass cause the vapor to be smoother or more flavorful? Same for woodwynd. It looks great but will my usage be fundamentally different? Is my experience going to be enhanced? The copy on the web site does not really adequately answer that question for me or give me any compelling reason to purchase other than "it looks cool".

Likewise here are a few options for Condenser.

As a new user my question is Why do I want a different Condenser? What will do this for me? Why Titanium? Is my hit more powerful, more complete extraction, longer slower extended process? I feel like there is NO explanation of why someone would swap this out? I know some of these impacts might be very subjective, but just saying it impacts thermal performance is too vague and not really helpful.

So here is a little smattering of tips, mouthpieces and caps:

I really like the look of the Titanium Tip Helix here, but what does a switch between this helix tip and the standard one do for me? Is it compatible? Will it impact my usage? Why are there like 5 different types of Caps? How are any/all different from what i have? There's really nothing that conveys why you I would benefit from changing out what i have and making these parts substitutions. I just feel like there is a gap here as well.
more caps & accessories.

So actually the description for dosing capsules is pretty good. At least i get some explanation of why i would want to consider them. But it does kind of makes me wonder how the experience is different vs the option of NO dosing capsules. Is there a performance hit with the capsules?

Maybe its because i used to do tech writing in the past, i think you could step up your game a bit Dynavap. I know I'm confused reading all the descriptions. Ideally something like a "product roadmap" would be good. ............ I am just trying to be helpful and maybe because i am in the newbie boat I think you could improve things a bit for other newbies out there. Does anyone else recognize what i am trying to say here or am i just rambling?

 

[coolbreeze]

I think so much of it is subjective and subtle that it's hard to make clear, concise statements without reducing or overblowing things. They probably could build comparison charts that would enlighten a bit. But I think you'd get better info by reading up here or asking questions where you'd have a range of user experiences to guide your grokking.

Are there particular parts that interest you that we can shed light on? Are there problems you'd like to solve or experiences you'd want to reach after? Some general comparisons? I'd be happy to take a stab at any and all of the questions/comparisons you've identified above if that helps. Once you get more familiar with current parts and what they attempt to solve you'll be able to anticipate the performance of new parts to come.

 

[Flotsam]

I think so much of it is subjective and subtle that it's hard to make clear, concise statements without reducing or overblowing things. They probably could build comparison charts that would enlighten a bit. But I think you'd get better info by reading up here or asking questions where you'd have a range of user experiences to guide your grokking.

Are there particular parts that interest you that we can shed light on? Are there problems you'd like to solve or experiences you'd want to reach after? Some general comparisons? I'd be happy to take a stab at any and all of the questions/comparisons you've identified above if that helps. Once you get more familiar with current parts and what they attempt to solve you'll be able to anticipate the performance of new parts to come.

Your first sentence is spot on, & your point is well taken. So my M7 is a stainless device. The item that most piqued my interest is the Titanium tip helix. That looks really nice, but that is just cosmetically. How will this work? Will it hit harder with the new tip? Why do i want to spend $59 for this new piece? My understanding would be that changing the tip from Stainless to Titanium is more hit is retained in the tip, but especially for the new user what will be the impact?

I'm trying to be constructive here. I really do like my Dynavap but what might make it work better? (focusing on internal parts rather than an IH for instance) So if i want that focus on what the tip is doing? is that the most impactful to the process? I take it coolbreeze you have a wide range of experience with Dynavap but as a new user i have very little and that's the point as a company they should be doing a better job explaining the differences or why should i bother at all?

 

[Kozzmozz]

I agree. Get an M to get to know the product.

If you like it, consider a titanium tip. A bit better flavour. Or stick with the M and have 90% of the dynavap experience.

Like a lower temperature? Get that cap

Want a one hit extraction? Get the armoured cap.

The rest is mostly form factor, looks, colour or maybe a bit more convection heating.

That is the best TL;DR I can do.

 

[Flotsam]

I agree. Get an M to get to know the product.

If you like it, consider a titanium tip. A bit better flavour. Or stick with the M and have 90% of the dynavap experience.

Like a lower temperature? Get that cap

Want a one hit extraction? Get the armoured cap.

The rest is mostly form factor, looks, colour or maybe a bit more convection heating.

That is the best TL;DR I can do.

YES !!! that is exactly the kind of "road map" i was implying before. I have an M7 & i can always benefit from a more complete extraction or stronger hit so that's why i was thinking either a cap or a Ti tip might be in order. But nothing on Dynavap web site reinforces that. I get that they don't want to over promise results ........................

 

[hotmeals]

My understanding would be that changing the tip from Stainless to Titanium is more hit is retained in the tip

I have an M7 & i can always benefit from a more complete extraction or stronger hit so that's why i was thinking either a cap or a Ti tip might be in order.

Stainless steel is denser and more insulative than titanium, so it is actually stainless steel that will hold more heat for longer. In general you can get bigger hits with a stainless tip with the right technique, but titanium may be easier for some people, and the vapor signature is different. Titanium is significantly more conductive, so it heats and cools faster and more evenly, and delivers heat to the load faster. If you're having trouble with complete extraction and hit strength with the M7 tip, my first recommendation would be to experiment with your technique more. The M7 tip is one of the best they've made. If you feel like your technique is fine and you really need another piece, it sounds like maybe the Armored Cap could be good for you.