Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[Michel]

Edit. I answered something that was already answered.

I would first use a dry brush such as painting brush, I often do this for dust in the fins, and maybe after with the same brush and rag slightly moist with iso.

Thank you, I meanwhile cleaned it with some mild disinfectant and a small towel, fin by fin. Took me some hours to make my hypochondriac ocd feel comfortable with a used vape I probably won’t even keep. But looks like new again!

 

[BuzzDanklin]

I am getting back in the swing of things, first review video in a while, let me know where I can improve!

 

[Tiny88]

Can someone recommend a carry case to fit the Crafty+ - looking for a snug fit.

Thanks

 

[Mr. Me2]

Can someone recommend a carry case to fit the Crafty+ - looking for a snug fit.

Thanks

I “think” I used a RYOT small packratz for my Crafty. Is the Crafty+ the same size?

 

[chlorophyll_man]

I “think” I used a RYOT small packratz for my Crafty. Is the Crafty+ the same size?

Yes the small Packratz is perfect for a snugfit and it's well padded, I also have it.

 

[Tiny88]

I “think” I used a RYOT small packratz for my Crafty. Is the Crafty+ the same size?

Yes it is.

 

[Polarbearboy]

I am getting back in the swing of things, first review video in a while, let me know where I can improve!

Thanks Buzz. Great review. I've had a Crafty for over three years and out of my dozen or so vapes, its the one I reach for the most. I'm an always dosing caps guy, and I've got four of the little blue and orange caddies, one loaded with sativas, one loaded with indicas, one loaded with concentrate sandwiches, and one for empties. If I have one suggestion for you, its slow down a bit. You've got a clear knowledgeable voice; you don't need to rush.

 

[Rastakolnikov]

Can someone recommend a carry case to fit the Crafty+ - looking for a snug fit.

Thanks

I use a Case Logic DCB302. Perfect size to snugly fit the crafty+ with a small pocket to fit capsules and accessories.

 

[zzrvr]

My Crafty is pretty old, however I replaced the battery which really helped, now the plastic is breaking away at the top. Is there anyway I could buy just the body?

 

[scy123]

Can't say anything about getting original bodies. But this guy on reddit is gonna be selling some wood bodies soon. Right now he has some photos of the Mighty one and said he's working on a Crafty after.

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[DrDurdle]

hi guys,
i used an old Crafty some years ago.
after its battery gave up eventually, i got myself a Mighty.
that unit did me great but its getting its airpath closed, so i ordered a Crafty+ yesterday.
vapour is fantastic, absolutely great.

my first charge only lasted 48 minutes tho, i did track via app.
got kinda nervous.
second full recharge only lasted 38 minutes.

are those the actual numbers i have to adapt to?

 

[JCat]

hi guys,
i used an old Crafty some years ago.
after its battery gave up eventually, i got myself a Mighty.
that unit did me great but its getting its airpath closed, so i ordered a Crafty+ yesterday.
vapour is fantastic, absolutely great.

my first charge only lasted 48 minutes tho, i did track via app.
got kinda nervous.
second full recharge only lasted 38 minutes.

are those the actual numbers i have to adapt to?

Sounds about right. 4 bowls is what you get on a Crafty/Crafty+ average. (Can get up to 6, but in practice, 4 is a better #)

 

[RobbIt]

hi guys,
i used an old Crafty some years ago.
after its battery gave up eventually, i got myself a Mighty.
that unit did me great but its getting its airpath closed, so i ordered a Crafty+ yesterday.
vapour is fantastic, absolutely great.

my first charge only lasted 48 minutes tho, i did track via app.
got kinda nervous.
second full recharge only lasted 38 minutes.

are those the actual numbers i have to adapt to?

I’ve had three Craftys and two Mightys. I love them, but all three developed significant battery decline at about 30-50 hours of use. I expected at least 200 hours before deterioration. I don’t think that’s unrealistic for devices that cost $250-350. I will wait for upgrades in the next Mighty to see if SB can figure this out.

Sounds about right. 4 bowls is what you get on a Crafty/Crafty+ average. (Can get up to 6, but in practice, 4 is a better #)

It starts as four bowls and quickly diminishes to two in my experience with three Craftys. I haven’t (and likely won’t) try a Crafty +.

 

[JCat]

It starts as four bowls and quickly diminishes to two in my experience with three Craftys. I haven’t (and likely won’t) try a Crafty +.

I haven’t had the same experience with my Crafty nor Mighty. Now the battery does eventually degrade as all Liion batteries do, and how fast this happens is dependant on usage and charging patterns in my experience (like all liion devices such as phones, cordless tools, etc)

the batteries can of course be changed as well once they deteriorate below an acceptable level.

 

[RobbIt]

I haven’t had the same experience with my Crafty nor Mighty. Now the battery does eventually degrade as all Liion batteries do, and how fast this happens is dependant on usage and charging patterns in my experience (like all liion devices such as phones, cordless tools, etc)

the batteries can of course be changed as well once they deteriorate below an acceptable level.

What’s your expectation for useful battery life (hours usage)? I realize the user variations create variability but I’m never over 390F yet battery declines after 30-50 hours. I’m glad you haven’t experienced this although this is a known problem for Storz for years now.

 

[JCat]

What’s your expectation for useful battery life (hours usage)? I realize the user variations create variability but I’m never over 390F yet battery declines after 30-50 hours. I’m glad you haven’t experienced this although this is a known problem for Storz for years now.

You should get >200 hours, however, there are factors.

- If you have long sessions, this causes the battery temperature to be high during operation (although not excessive)
- If you frequently push the 4 bowls out of the device (ie. drain the batteries), this will have a negative impact for a couple reasons. One reason is that it just generally decreases liion battery life to fully discharge. (although I'm not sure what their cut-off is in this device). It also means that it will be drawing more current during use; as the battery's voltage drops, it requires more current (amps) to produce the same power (watts). Pushing a cell closer to its current limit will decrease its life.
- If you fully charge the device then store it unused frequently for long enough periods, this will also significantly decrease battery life.
- Operating or charging the cell in too cold or too hot weather also impacts it.
- And on and on.

Now all that being said, I don't think the Crafty's battery management is very good, so if the user doesn't take care to manage it themselves, you do likely get reduced battery life.

 

[RobbIt]

You should get >200 hours, however, there are factors.

- If you have long sessions, this causes the battery temperature to be high during operation (although not excessive)
- If you frequently push the 4 bowls out of the device (ie. drain the batteries), this will have a negative impact for a couple reasons. One reason is that it just generally decreases liion battery life to fully discharge. (although I'm not sure what their cut-off is in this device). It also means that it will be drawing more current during use; as the battery's voltage drops, it requires more current (amps) to produce the same power (watts). Pushing a cell closer to its current limit will decrease its life.
- If you fully charge the device then store it unused frequently for long enough periods, this will also significantly decrease battery life.
- Operating or charging the cell in too cold or too hot weather also impacts it.
- And on and on.

Now all that being said, I don't think the Crafty's battery management is very good, so if the user doesn't take care to manage it themselves, you do likely get reduced battery life.

Thank you JCat. Makes good sense.

 

[DonMarteng]

Just received my Simrell Adapter to fit a Vortex on my Crafty and its such a delight. It fits perfectly and the cooling is significant.
Really appreciate this new toy, if you already got a Vortex this is the way to go. They also work with regular VCs but I havent tried that yet since the Vortex is sooooo good

 

[Atomic11]

You should get >200 hours, however, there are factors.

- If you have long sessions, this causes the battery temperature to be high during operation (although not excessive)
- If you frequently push the 4 bowls out of the device (ie. drain the batteries), this will have a negative impact for a couple reasons. One reason is that it just generally decreases liion battery life to fully discharge. (although I'm not sure what their cut-off is in this device). It also means that it will be drawing more current during use; as the battery's voltage drops, it requires more current (amps) to produce the same power (watts). Pushing a cell closer to its current limit will decrease its life.
- If you fully charge the device then store it unused frequently for long enough periods, this will also significantly decrease battery life.
- Operating or charging the cell in too cold or too hot weather also impacts it.
- And on and on.

Now all that being said, I don't think the Crafty's battery management is very good, so if the user doesn't take care to manage it themselves, you do likely get reduced battery life.

so do one or two bowls and then charge? is it bad to leave it on the charger?

 

[HomerSchwag]

so do one or two bowls and then charge? is it bad to leave it on the charger?

I charge every 2 bowls most of the time. I keep my battery between 20-80% to maximize lifespan. Occasionally I drain & charge completely just to give the battery a reset. You don’t want to store the battery below 20% or above 80% for long periods of time, it will diminish the overall lifespan.

 

[JCat]

so do one or two bowls and then charge? is it bad to leave it on the charger?

@HomerSchwag has it right So charging every couple bowls is a good idea, with a caveat of the fact that if you aren't going to use it for a moderately extended time, then you shouldn't leave it at a full charge.

 

[Hackerman]

I bought a new Crafty+ from Puffitup and I didn't like it at first but after I adjusted the temp in the app, I really like it. When I read all these complaints about battery, I ran a test. I charged it to 100%. I just finished my 7th bowl and on the 8th, it died.

I run the app the entire time (so I assume some battery is going to the bluetooth chip). I run it at 190c/374F and I don't use boost mode. My sessions are set to 120 seconds.

I am re-charging it now. I'll run the test again later. Overall, I like it. But, the unacceptably long warm up time (c'mon guys, 20 seconds is the standard, now) is a down side. I really like the super wide bowls S&B uses. It seems to work better than the narrow deep bowl many use.

I ordered some glass mouth pieces but puff closed before I could check out. Again, overall pretty happy but I really don't see the GIANT advantage over an Edge or CFX, both that cost one third as much.

EDIT: Changed 274F to 374F typo

 

[RobbIt]

I bought a new Crafty+ from Puffitup and I didn't like it at first but after I adjusted the temp in the app, I really like it. When I read all these complaints about battery, I ran a test. I charged it to 100%. I just finished my 7th bowl and on the 8th, it died.

I run the app the entire time (so I assume some battery is going to the bluetooth chip). I run it at 190c/274F and I don't use boost mode. My sessions are set to 120 seconds.

I am re-charging it now. I'll run the test again later. Overall, I like it. But, the unacceptably long warm up time (c'mon guys, 20 seconds is the standard, now) is a down side. I really like the super wide bowls S&B uses. It seems to work better than the narrow deep bowl many use.

I ordered some glass mouth pieces but puff closed before I could check out. Again, overall pretty happy but I really don't see the GIANT advantage over an Edge or CFX, both that cost one third as much.

Interesting.
I think a major reason for your 7 bowls/charge is because of the very low temp 274F you’re using. I don’t get vaporization at under 350F and generally run it at 370-400F. I prefer those delicious terpene hits (as I’m guessing you do), so I try to stay on the lowest effective temperature.
Storz is still the leader in my mind but just barely. The Arizer Solo II for examplr is an excellent device that can easily go toe to toe against the Crafty/Mighty. And at well under $200 (I paid $164), you can buy two instead of the Mighty.

 

[Hackerman]

@RobbIt My bad, bud..... should have read 374F. Typo error. I corrected my original post.

Also, I put it on charge 1 hour and 20 minutes ago and the app shows about 30% charged. Seems slow.

 

[MinnBobber]

@Hackerman typo needs fix.
190 C = 374 F , not 274F