Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[blackstone]

I am aware of the 3rd party battery replacement, which is good for the continued use of the Crafty Plus but I would love to be able to swap batteries when the ones in there are out of juice so I don't have to wait 2-3 hours for a recharge. I simply do not understand why they could not do that. And while it may seem like I was ripping the Crafty plus a new one, the truth is I really like the vape. It delivers a great hit. I was simply outlining the one major deficiency it has. So I do recommend the Crafty Plus but people should be aware of its issues. If it had swappable batteries it would be perfect.

I understand and I could easily see you really like the vapor from it as I do!
Even I said before that as my main vape, I might prefer to have a dual cell version of this (Mighty+?) or have a spare cell to use this vape full time with less charging, just because it is so efficient and enjoyable for me with herb.
Although I do like having everything in one, not more batteries around the place to be careful of and having to buy and run an external charger. And research "what 18650/battery seller iz gud"!
After successfully using various herb vapes to allow me quit tobacco and combustion for over 5 years, I hope S&B is not the first company to introduce me to loose cells and I doubt they will be.

If the Mighty+ comes I'll buy that and decide if I continue to keep a Crafty+ for out and about and while the Mighty+ is charging!
But that above is how I understood their battery choices and I was surprised and curious after hearing the company owner mention security issues as a reason.

I kinda doubt they are solely doing it for max. profit, but if they were, at least we can take comfort that they might remain in the market for longer!?

If a Mighty+ does not come, I might want to fit an AC powered dummy 18650 kind of like what maxvapor710 has provided for the Grasshopper vape.
Make an everlasting Crafty+ desktop out of the little beast!
Meanwhile I'm about 1g a day and I need to charge every night, an occasional topup while making/eating dinner. Sometimes it catches up with me it is a little annoying! But only because it's my favorite vapor and efficiency atm.

 

[Trainwreck420]

 

[blackstone]

I made a mistake above but I found the video where they ask Mr. Bickel why they didn't go for replaceable batteries it's at the 11:20 mark in this.

Sounds like by security, he might also mean certification, traceability and maybe safety, he says replaceable also made things bigger and more difficult, and there was less demand for it in Mighty with two batteries.
Maybe they want it just like a toothbrush, hair shaver or ipod nano setup!

Hope everyone is enjoying Crafty+ this weekend!

 

[atragantrao]

My Crafty+ Unboxing, hope you like it!

Ask me if you have questions about this fantastic vaporizer!

 

[Vape_Or_Die420]

Has anyone noticed their Crafty+ randomly reset temperature setting to the first (lowest) setting in the middle of a sesh while on the 2nd or 3rd setting? Probably happened to me 10 times by now. Ill be vaping along on higher temps and then all of a sudden, one single vibration and i look and its solid blue instead of blinking.

At first i thought it might be overheating but the manual says it will blink red/blue if it is too cold or hot.

I also thought it could be how the auto shutoff works, because i set it to 3 min, it rarely shuts off that i notice. Ran a quick test and the auto shutoff works fine.

 

[JCat]

I made a mistake above but I found the video where they ask Mr. Bickel why they didn't go for replaceable batteries it's at the 11:20 mark in this.

Sounds like by security, he might also mean certification, traceability and maybe safety, he says replaceable also made things bigger and more difficult, and there was less demand for it in Mighty with two batteries.
Maybe they want it just like a toothbrush, hair shaver or ipod nano setup!

Hope everyone is enjoying Crafty+ this weekend!

I've never had any issue that it is an internal battery ... there are reasons for this, and it definitely removes a massive variable from the equation; my real issue with this has always been their unwillingness to replace a battery for a reasonable service fee for an out-of-warranty Crafty. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Relaxed]

What materials are in the air path of the Crafty+?

 

[rshetts]

Well, I am none too happy with the Crafty plus. I had suspected that something was wrong as it seemed like I got way too few sessions out of a charge so I started using the app to track the charge after each session. I used it this morning and when i put it away, the app showed it at 60%. This afternoon, when I went to use it, it wouldn't start and the app showed that it needed a recharge. Clearly something is draining the batteries or the batteries are not holding a charge. It sucks when you buy something based on a company's rep for quality and you get bad unit for your efforts.

 

[HomerSchwag]

Well, I am none too happy with the Crafty plus. I had suspected that something was wrong as it seemed like I got way too few sessions out of a charge so I started using the app to track the charge after each session. I used it this morning and when i put it away, the app showed it at 60%. This afternoon, when I went to use it, it wouldn't start and the app showed that it needed a recharge. Clearly something is draining the batteries or the batteries are not holding a charge. It sucks when you buy something based on a company's rep for quality and you get bad unit for your efforts.

Check the settings in your app and make sure is isn’t checked to “Bluetooth always on”

 

[rshetts]

Check the settings in your app and make sure is isn’t checked to “Bluetooth always on”

Arrrrgh! Thanks! That was the problem. I put it away last nite at 80% charge and this morning it still had the same charge. Why would they set the thing to auto battery drain is beyond me but once I shut that off, my Crafty Plus held its charge. They need a disclaimer in their manual for that.

 

[JCat]

Arrrrgh! Thanks! That was the problem. I put it away last nite at 80% charge and this morning it still had the same charge. Why would they set the thing to auto battery drain is beyond me but once I shut that off, my Crafty Plus held its charge. They need a disclaimer in their manual for that.

That seems to me like a bug in the firmware though. BLE should be able to be active for week(s) before the battery is drained ... (ie. Bluetooth "LOW ENERGY") ...

Oh well ... good work-around solution anyways

 

[blackstone]

I noticed in his latest review that Vaporizer Wizard has found this Crafty+ to be a highly preferred, or favorite device of his at the minute. Out of over 150 vaporizers tested!!
https://www.vaporizerwizard.com/reviews/vaporizers/portable/crafty-plus/

And also that Tvape say that Crafty+ is indeed a step above the consistent, flavorful and powerful hits of a Mighty.
"Not much, but noticeable", they say.
I thought they had said that this is also their new favorite vaporizer until/if a Mighty+ comes, but there is the possibility that they toned down the review and turned up their Utilian recommendations!
https://tvape.com/blog/crafty-plus-vaporizer-review/

I can't believe how much I love mine either, so I agree! It's good that they can sometimes be got for less than 200 too, that performance to price ratio was unheard of even 2 or 3 years ago.

What materials are in the air path of the Crafty+?

It's aluminium, like Volcano or SV3, in the spiral inner path with a little PEEK at the entry port, and SS screen inside.
The air might also touch the SS heater element in Crafty+ now, not sure
The vapor path CU is PEEK I believe.

 

[wastedpotential]

As I go back and forth between my Crafty and my Ghost, I am reminded of what attracted me to Ghost (and before that, Haze Square)... Fast heat up time, and fast charging.

The Haze Square was USB C, quick charging. And the heat up time was fast. I'm not going to look it up, but I remember it being less than a minute.
The Ghost MV1, didn't have USB C, but did have an external extra fast charger option, and the heat up time is fast.

I really like the Crafty, but the difference in heat up time is big. Very big. If it didn't vibrate when it was ready, I'd probably forget I was heating up. Like when you are put on hold with the phone, and when they finally answer you forget what you called about. But, I can deal with that if technology is dictating a slower heat up time for longevity of heating element.

But, the Crafty could really use a USB C quick charging. That would make up for the small capacity of the charge if we can get back to full charge in a few minutes. Or at least a 'useable' charge for another session.

I hope that if there is a Mighty+, they decide to give it quick charging.

 

[vapviking]

I hope that if there is a Mighty+, they decide to give it quick charging.

It likely will not have type C.
S&B have already tipped their hand on the charging thing, it was discussed a few pages back. A member posted a photo of the package the wall wart adapter in and it says Crafty+ and Mighty+.

 

[rshetts]

Just an update. Since I learned about the "always on" bluetooth setting and shut it off, my Crafty+ has done just fine with holding a charge. Weird that they would default set an energy vampire into their vape.

 

[blackstone]

I can deal with that if technology is dictating a slower heat up time for longevity of heating element.

Longevity of the element is a good bonus, hate the thought of a vape being dead from a blown coil.
But what I appreciate a lot is that if/when the element wire deteriorates at all, it won't do so into the vapor stream and potentially be inhaled.
I would give up fast heat time for that alone.
If they do a Mighty+ it could be 45 seconds or less heat time.
I normally turn my device on first, and it often heats up before I can get a capsule filled for it.
When you spend long enough with these vapes, you look at them just as they are about to heat fully/vibrate!

Just an update. Since I learned about the "always on" bluetooth setting and shut it off, my Crafty+ has done just fine with holding a charge. Weird that they would default set an energy vampire into their vape.

I'm not sure that the permanent Bluetooth is on by default, but maybe it is. I did have the same issue as you early on but I thought mine got switched on accidentally while trying to pair with old devices.
I never use the feature but it could be useful if the vape was in a bag and you want to switch it on via device just before you nip off to the bathroom or something!

My Crafty+ Unboxing, hope you like it!

Ask me if you have questions about this fantastic vaporizer!

Does anybody remember the upset when they dropped things like the grinder and brush?
When I saw @atragantrao 's video here, it now shows a brush included! And the website was updated to say this too.
They have an offer of a free sidekit now too, so buy from them you get two brushes the grinder the filling aid and a caddy!
It will be interesting what they choose to include with future releases.

 

[adamster]

What sort of cleaning do you do on a new unit. I finally gave up on the firefly 2+ and bought the crafty +.

 

[Vape Master]

https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/crafty-plus?___store=us_storz_bickel_en

The Crafty is now discontinued by Storz & Bickel, replaced by the Crafty+!

The Crafty Plus - The battery is outrageous. I got well over 90 minutes at varying temperatures. The cleaning has always been an issue for me I started using dosing pods remarkable, no gook. I get the feeling that this is the third version. like the 3rd versions of Pax 3.

 

[vapviking]

What sort of cleaning do you do on a new unit. I finally gave up on the firefly 2+ and bought the crafty +.

S&B is very good at delivering a pretty clean product. Even so, I suggest (after charging to full) at minimum a burn-off. With cooling unit removed, run it up to highest temp for a couple of minutes, be careful it will be hot around the chamber. If no major smells or smoke then you're probably good to go. Let it cool a little and go for it. (or just pop in a capsule and away you go).
These can have a mild "new vape'" taste for one or two bowls, after that, no.
Enjoy

 

[BigC’sTowing]

What sort of cleaning do you do on a new unit. I finally gave up on the firefly 2+ and bought the crafty +.

I also use the dosing capsules and I still brush out the cooling unit and bowl after every use. I’d replace the coarse screen on the cooling unit with the fine screen included, that also prevents smaller particles from gumming up the works.

And, roughly every week I’ll run an Q-tip with alcohol on all surfaces. This means a deep clean is very rarely needed.

it also depends on how often and at what temps you run yours at but that’s a decent framework to start with.

 

[Vape Master]

What sort of cleaning do you do on a new unit. I finally gave up on the firefly 2+ and bought the crafty +.

I would recommend dosing capsules. I have zero residues. Without the capsule, I needed to clean every two uses. Beyond that, it would affect performance.

For deep cleaning. With Dosing capsule every 10 sessions. Without dosing capsule, I estimate every 2 sessions.

I take apart the cooing unit and put parts into the bowl with ISO alcohol (91%)
I take the gaskets and put them into a bowl of warm sudsy water.

I use a Q Tip with warm water and a tiny drop of soap to clean the outer core of the vape, and dry with a cotton ball.

The oven I scrape very lightly and use a drop of ISO alcohol on the tip of a q tip.

I give it a half-hour to soak the parts. re-assemble.

For me, it is a complete restoration like brand new out of the box.

 

[blackstone]

This is a continuation of the Crafty & Crafty+ threads on FC

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-crafty-by-storz-bickel.15984/

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-crafty-plus-by-storz-bickel.44722/

The Crafty+ is the replacement for the Crafty and it was released November 2019.
Despite some initial complaints that it looked a bit too similar to previous models, it made a big impression with those who own them. And even became a solid favorite for some, including a number of top reviewers, partly by being a little quicker to heat than a Mighty but also because the top of the stainless steel heater cartridge is now exposed at the bottom of the bowl, resulting in stronger vapor than before especially at the start of a session or with small loads, capsules, or a drip pad inside.
The small size, and improved grip and feel probably help to make it a winner among users.

And as far as most people can tell, it has the best airflow ever from an S&B portable!
If you ask me, it has the best effects or efficiency for what you put in too, out of any vaporizer I've tried so far.
The typical very even extraction with no stirring, as with all S&B portables, is present in this model also which allows it to demolish any load impressively with no fuss, even powdery loads heavy with kief that many other devices struggle with.

Soon after release, in a Black Friday sale it was offered at 20% off on the manufacturers website and can sometimes be found at 30% or more off RRP on other sites.
I also noticed that they do include a brush now, some people were bummed as this was not the case at release and they had also dropped an acrylic grinder and filling aid from the older Crafty package, but still offered the items separately.

The warranty can now be increased by one year for a total of three years warranty.
And a new 2.4 Amp USB charger was offered in place of the 2 Amp one they sold for the old Crafty.

 

[Stu]

This thread is now closed. For an explanation why, please read http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/important-announcement.49260/.

Please try its successor at https://newfuckcombustion.com/index.php?threads/crafty-by-storz-and-bickel.189/. Thanks for the contributions and I hope you enjoy the new home.

 

[atragantrao]

New here! Hope newFC runs ok!!

 

[Bad Dog]

I have a OG crafty, it was my first vape. It's become one of my least used vapes currently but I don't think it's a piece of junk it just doesn't suit my style of vaping for a few reasons 1 it's bowl size is for most purposes too big even when I was vaping more, this can be mitigated by half vaping the bowl and shutting it off or packing a smaller bowl with the liquid pad which I did. 2 the battery, it very quickly went from 5 bowls to 3 on a charge and it doesn't have pass though charging. Was charging it like twice a day and it took forever. 3 I had trouble not outpacing the heater on the size of hits I wanted from it. I got very good at taking a very slow draw, so slow I could get the green led to dim but not kick over to turn red. When it was productive I found the vapour to be about as strong as I wanted a dry herb vape to be that's not filtered through water. 4 the cleaning, other then the screens there is no part you can extensively soak in ISO without degradation of the material. Now that I use it somewhat infrequently cleaning is even worse as the reclame has time to dry out and become more stubborn, so by the time it needs to be cleaned it's a disaster or I'm forced to disassemble a clean under hot water every time I use it..... boo.

Like I said I don't use it frequently but it's still my #1 choice for cbd because of its larger bowl size and conduction element. I typically only use cbd when my back is out and if I'm lucky that is only a few days out of the month. And the occasional evening of thc once or twice a month. My crafty should still have a lot of miles left on it only has 35 hours but when it does die I don't think I'll replace it with the crafty + it was just to much of a incremental upgrade and didn't change enough of the previous issues I had with the OG to really peak my interest, I've since moved onto desktops. I did find the crafty to always reliably get me lifted and always produced consistent clouds.