Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

freddyf1

Member
So I've been using my Crafty+ for 2 weeks now. I love this little guy. The only issue I have with my crafty is battery life, i only get 40 mins at 180°C, sometimes boosting to 185°C but nothing higher than that. I did expect at least 50 to 60 minutes...anyone else having battery life issues?
 

Vape_Or_Die420

Well-Known Member
So I've been using my Crafty+ for 2 weeks now. I love this little guy. The only issue I have with my crafty is battery life, i only get 40 mins at 180°C, sometimes boosting to 185°C but nothing higher than that. I did expect at least 50 to 60 minutes...anyone else having battery life issues?
You may have a defective unit.
 
Vape_Or_Die420,

rshetts

Well-Known Member
Ok so are the dosing capsule basically a one shot and toss kind of thing? Because I can't reopen them without crushing them. Is there some kind of trick to it?
 

BigC’sTowing

Well-Known Member
Ok so are the dosing capsule basically a one shot and toss kind of thing? Because I can't reopen them without crushing them. Is there some kind of trick to it?
I can’t imagine using a capsule and then just pitching it. If they’re new, you may to open and close a couple times. I just use my index finger nail and gently pry it open. No real tricks I’m afraid.
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Ok so are the dosing capsule basically a one shot and toss kind of thing? Because I can't reopen them without crushing them. Is there some kind of trick to it?
They do get much easier after a few uses and can last a long time.
Work your way gently around the edge of the top, prying up, and you'll find a spot that's easier.
Sometimes resins can make the top stick, so it can be easier while the cap is still warm or reheated a little. But watch out they're really hot right after use!
 

chlorophyll_man

AVB Inspector
Ok so are the dosing capsule basically a one shot and toss kind of thing? Because I can't reopen them without crushing them. Is there some kind of trick to it?
Hiya, the trick that works for me is to squeeze them firmly, between the thumb and forefinger, along the side edges, whilst pulling the two pieces apart. This way there's no need to use finger nails.
 

atragantrao

Member
Crafty+ just arrived and I can't wait to use it!! :D:D:D

Some advise for Ios users? Thanks!

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Moses Baca

Colorado State Reformatory #8755
I can’t imagine using a capsule and then just pitching it. If they’re new, you may to open and close a couple times. I just use my index finger nail and gently pry it open. No real tricks I’m afraid.

Agree, just use a finger or thumbnail. Try a couple different spots if you get a stubborn cap.
 
Moses Baca,

rshetts

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the replies. I had better luck with my second one. The first one I tried was so locked down that I literally crushed it trying to remove the cap but the second one popped right off once I found a spot in the lip to lift. Thanks for the advice.
 

Trainwreck420

420.....24/7
I just got a crafty+ yesterday, I was a keen ghost mv1 user/owner for the past year and loved it! But the way they have gone under and burned bud and Troy sucks big time and I don’t want anything to do with ghost now. So at long last I bought a s&b vape........ WOW, soooo much nicer, the vapour is thick and fluffy, not so dry and harsh as the mv1, and at 210c the crafty out performs the ghost at 220c. The s&b heating method is far superior and now I see the avb from the crafty I realise how much more efficient it is. I love it. Next purchase for me is a volcano hybrid. S&b are the best for good reason.
 

wastedpotential

Well-Known Member
I just got a crafty+ yesterday, I was a keen ghost mv1 user/owner for the past year and loved it! But the way they have gone under and burned bud and Troy sucks big time and I don’t want anything to do with ghost now. So at long last I bought a s&b vape........ WOW, soooo much nicer, the vapour is thick and fluffy, not so dry and harsh as the mv1, and at 210c the crafty out performs the ghost at 220c. The s&b heating method is far superior and now I see the avb from the crafty I realise how much more efficient it is. I love it. Next purchase for me is a volcano hybrid. S&b are the best for good reason.

I liked my Ghost when it worked. But, after dealing with the Haze Square, and then Ghost, I decided the next vape will be one that has proven it's longevity.

The one difference I notice right away is the wait time heating. Haze and Ghost were incredibly fast heat ups. And true convection. When they worked, it was great, but there was no consistency in performance.

I also am not crazy about the Crafty plus battery. If this is an improvement, then I'm glad I didn't have an original one. But, very very consistent performance, every single time.

In the end, I just want something that works, when I want it, consistently. Is that too much to ask?
So far, my Crafty+ works well.
 

Trainwreck420

420.....24/7
I liked my Ghost when it worked. But, after dealing with the Haze Square, and then Ghost, I decided the next vape will be one that has proven it's longevity.

The one difference I notice right away is the wait time heating. Haze and Ghost were incredibly fast heat ups. And true convection. When they worked, it was great, but there was no consistency in performance.

I also am not crazy about the Crafty plus battery. If this is an improvement, then I'm glad I didn't have an original one. But, very very consistent performance, every single time.

In the end, I just want something that works, when I want it, consistently. Is that too much to ask?
So far, my Crafty+ works well.
Amen brother
 

rshetts

Well-Known Member
I liked my Ghost when it worked. But, after dealing with the Haze Square, and then Ghost, I decided the next vape will be one that has proven it's longevity.

The one difference I notice right away is the wait time heating. Haze and Ghost were incredibly fast heat ups. And true convection. When they worked, it was great, but there was no consistency in performance.

I also am not crazy about the Crafty plus battery. If this is an improvement, then I'm glad I didn't have an original one. But, very very consistent performance, every single time.

In the end, I just want something that works, when I want it, consistently. Is that too much to ask?
So far, my Crafty+ works well.


Regarding the battery, that has been my experience as well. Love the hit efficiency, hate the battery and slow charging. If this battery issue is an upgrade from the Crafty, I am glad I never got the original. If this thing had changeable batteries so you could keep a set charged at all times it would be perfect. Instead it's a good vape that has a major flaw. I like S&B but I really hate the planned obsolescence built into their portables. It's kind of mercenary, considering it wouldn't be difficult to make the exact same vape with the ability to swap out batteries. They are seriously inconveniencing the user by doing this. Myself, I went to this from a Haze V3, which I really liked. Sadly, Haze went under. I do believe that the Crafty Plus is a bit more efficient of a hitter, although the Haze did quite well but the big plus on the Haze was the swappable batteries. S&B dropped the ball on that aspect, for no reason other than greed and while it's not a deal breaker, it is very disappointing.
 

blackstone

Well-Known Member
Regarding the battery, that has been my experience as well. Love the hit efficiency, hate the battery and slow charging. If this battery issue is an upgrade from the Crafty, I am glad I never got the original. If this thing had changeable batteries so you could keep a set charged at all times it would be perfect. Instead it's a good vape that has a major flaw. I like S&B but I really hate the planned obsolescence built into their portables. It's kind of mercenary, considering it wouldn't be difficult to make the exact same vape with the ability to swap out batteries. They are seriously inconveniencing the user by doing this. Myself, I went to this from a Haze V3, which I really liked. Sadly, Haze went under. I do believe that the Crafty Plus is a bit more efficient of a hitter, although the Haze did quite well but the big plus on the Haze was the swappable batteries. S&B dropped the ball on that aspect, for no reason other than greed and while it's not a deal breaker, it is very disappointing.

I really hate the planned obsolescence built into their portables.

They are seriously inconveniencing the user by doing this.

for no reason other than greed....... ...it is very disappointing.

The last Crafty was fine if you had other vapes and used it for outdoors or visiting friends. It was the only compact vape I tried that satisfied me (especially outdoors) after having a Mighty.
I feel a little bit sorry for those who bought a full price OG Crafty to use as their primary vape, especially if you got an early unreliable one, I was advised on here to get the Mighty first. If you knew what you're getting into there was little to complain about although more sessions per charge are always desirable!
Maybe I was lucky to get the advice here first.

The Crafty and Mighty batteries can be changed by user or third party, it is difficult to do correctly and not recommended by the company.
We are able to change them though.
To me, it would be more important if the plastic casing does not crack in this new model.
We could get full use from the insides, change out batteries or have them replaced for us, or sell them secondhand without guilt.
If your batteries start to become sluggish within warranty, which is up to 3 yrs now, the company used to replace them for a fee. If you think the fee is too much for your situation there are other ways.

In the video tour of S&B factory, one of the founders is asked why they won't go to easily replaceable cells by the user.
He said it was for security reasons.
Some interpreted this as danger to the user or damage to the vape internals, but it could be shipping restrictions too.
If I order any batteries they are confiscated by the mail in my country mainly because of leakage they say, and many carriers and countries don't accept lithium cells, particularly via air.
That's what I took from it anyway. Maybe smaller fish or non EU companies can still offer seperate batteries in their respective markets.

While browsing some regulations I found this image which shows an accidental result of lithium-ion cell transport by air!
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Possibly an incident that caused these restrictions?
 

rshetts

Well-Known Member
I am aware of the 3rd party battery replacement, which is good for the continued use of the Crafty Plus but I would love to be able to swap batteries when the ones in there are out of juice so I don't have to wait 2-3 hours for a recharge. I simply do not understand why they could not do that. And while it may seem like I was ripping the Crafty plus a new one, the truth is I really like the vape. It delivers a great hit. I was simply outlining the one major deficiency it has. So I do recommend the Crafty Plus but people should be aware of its issues. If it had swappable batteries it would be perfect.
 
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