Stinky
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I said MIGHTY not Crafty.
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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I said MIGHTY not Crafty.
Michel
Well-Known Member
Sadly we don't know exactly how much wattage the unit pulls to keep up temps when drawing on it after the first initial heat up. This should play I role, too, and I would think it uses the whole 27w available...
Edit: @WakeAndVape , I'll try to answer your question in general. With nearly every electronic battery powered device it's recommended to not charge while in use and to not charge while the batteries are exposed to heat. Both is the case when charging your crafty in use. It's the same with the mighty and nearly every other battery powered vape apart the Minivap with detachable batteries.
Since the crafty hasn't a pass-through (or a bypass to be clearer) the battery is always in the power current and gets charged and discharged at the same time when connected to USB and in use. It doesn't change anything if your crafty is heating up or just maintaining temps. You have to turn it off when charging or to disconnect it from the power cable when in use to protect your battery (if this could be possible at all since heat and heavy discharge rates are abusive enough...)
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vts
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I'd say from 10-20 seconds after each hit, and each draw is about 10-15 seconds. 3-4 hits on normal temp., 372-377, and then 2 hits on boost. I guess I try to be more efficient when it's on.
I notice that when I turn it off after each hit, I would wait a bit longer between hits, and then also wait for it to reach temp when I turn it back on. The sessions were a little longer this way.
I'm impatient so I just leave it on now. No time to waste, I need to be medicated.
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
I think in the Mighty's case, it does have an actual pass through system. So when it's heating up initially, the power is coming from the main, not the battery. That's why you don't see the battery charging during that time. The incoming power is great enough on the Mighty that it can do this, not the case with the Crafty. Not 100% on that though.
I believe it still is drawing from the battery the entire time, even during temp maintenance. The difference that it's drawing less then the 10W incoming, so it's a net positive on the battery.
Either way, it doesn't matter, it's still bad for your battery. Charging the battery at elevated temps is not good for it. And the temp will ALWAYS be elevated if it's in use, or was used recently.
UnshavenFish
Well-Known Member
Yeah I realise, I was just pointing out that the crafty draws the same power from the charger when plugged in and heating up as it does when just plugged in, so it is charging and heating simultaneously (maybe not in the same way as you intended now I think about it)
I was meaning if it draws the same power from the charger when charging as during heat up while charging then it is probably just charging the battery as its used, as the battery can supply the power that the charger can't.
Probably wasn't my best link/tag but at the time I think it made sense somewhere in my head, my bad
Stinky
Well-Known Member
Yeah I realise, I was just pointing out that the crafty draws the same power from the charger when plugged in and heating up as it does when just plugged in, so it is charging and heating simultaneously (maybe not in the same way as you intended now I think about it)
I was meaning if it draws the same power from the charger when charging as during heat up while charging then it is probably just charging the battery as its used, as the battery can supply the power that the charger can't.
Probably wasn't my best link/tag but at the time I think it made sense somewhere in my head, my bad
All good mate
Can I draw on the collective knowledge here for a few seconds. A couple of little odd things I've noticed and not made too much of them but I'm wondering if it normal or not.
1 - Crafty sometimes does not vibrate when it should eg when turning on, when its green and ready. Very intermittent and without a pattern I can tell. Vibrate is on in the app settings. Am using the modded App to gain access to tech page, and also the third party custom app
2 - Noticed today when the light is green, it has small fluctuations in the intensity of the light. Almost as if the heating element turns on, and at that moment there is a momentary dip in the current to the light making it dip slightly. Anyone else noticed this?
Lastly, some advice would be great. I'm finding that the metal of the crafty bowl is not staying clean and some residue is building up on the metal. There is also residue that is building between the top of the metal bowl and the bottom of the ceramic ring. Seems like these build ups are not being cleaned and are adding to a faint cooked smell that is always there now, even when empty. Anybody have any thoughts on it? Hardly looks new anymore.. I've attached some pictures.. Seeing the pictures big, you can see how there is residue between the metal bowl sides and the ceramic cone ring
1 - Crafty sometimes does not vibrate when it should eg when turning on, when its green and ready. Very intermittent and without a pattern I can tell. Vibrate is on in the app settings. Am using the modded App to gain access to tech page, and also the third party custom app
2 - Noticed today when the light is green, it has small fluctuations in the intensity of the light. Almost as if the heating element turns on, and at that moment there is a momentary dip in the current to the light making it dip slightly. Anyone else noticed this?
Lastly, some advice would be great. I'm finding that the metal of the crafty bowl is not staying clean and some residue is building up on the metal. There is also residue that is building between the top of the metal bowl and the bottom of the ceramic ring. Seems like these build ups are not being cleaned and are adding to a faint cooked smell that is always there now, even when empty. Anybody have any thoughts on it? Hardly looks new anymore.. I've attached some pictures.. Seeing the pictures big, you can see how there is residue between the metal bowl sides and the ceramic cone ring
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
Can I draw on the collective knowledge here for a few seconds. A couple of little odd things I've noticed and not made too much of them but I'm wondering if it normal or not.
1 - Crafty sometimes does not vibrate when it should eg when turning on, when its green and ready. Very intermittent and without a pattern I can tell. Vibrate is on in the app settings. Am using the modded App to gain access to tech page, and also the third party custom app
2 - Noticed today when the light is green, it has small fluctuations in the intensity of the light. Almost as if the heating element turns on, and at that moment there is a momentary dip in the current to the light making it dip slightly. Anyone else noticed this?
Lastly, some advice would be great. I'm finding that the metal of the crafty bowl is not staying clean and some residue is building up on the metal. There is also residue that is building between the top of the metal bowl and the bottom of the ceramic ring. Seems like these build ups are not being cleaned and are adding to a faint cooked smell that is always there now, even when empty. Anybody have any thoughts on it? Hardly looks new anymore.. I've attached some pictures.. Seeing the pictures big, you can see how there is residue between the metal bowl sides and the ceramic cone ring
Can't help you with your first two questions, but cleaning the bowl can be easily solved. I find it's best/easiest to clean shortly after it was used, while it's still warm.
You can either just dip a Q-tip in some ISO, and wipe it down, or use the metal oil pad if it's a little more stubborn. If you use the oil pad, just dip the pad in ISO, turn the Crafty upside down (to prevent drips in the heater), put the oil pad in, and rotate it around. It's a tight enough fit that it should polish the bowl clean.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the suggestion mate, I think if the q-tip doesn't work then the oil pad definitely should. Great tip! Next planned session is Thursday so will give it an attempt then
What would you suggest for getting rid of the small cooked residue lodged between the bowl and the ceramic. At places almost seems like there is a small gap developing. Would pushing a ISO soaked q tip into it while upside down force enough ISO into the small gap to clean it out without physically making contact with the actual grit?
WakeAndVape
VapeLife X
I don't primarily use the crafty, so I'm less prone to pay attention to the small details.Can I draw on the collective knowledge here for a few seconds. A couple of little odd things I've noticed and not made too much of them but I'm wondering if it normal or not.
1 - Crafty sometimes does not vibrate when it should eg when turning on, when its green and ready. Very intermittent and without a pattern I can tell. Vibrate is on in the app settings. Am using the modded App to gain access to tech page, and also the third party custom app
2 - Noticed today when the light is green, it has small fluctuations in the intensity of the light. Almost as if the heating element turns on, and at that moment there is a momentary dip in the current to the light making it dip slightly. Anyone else noticed this?
Lastly, some advice would be great. I'm finding that the metal of the crafty bowl is not staying clean and some residue is building up on the metal. There is also residue that is building between the top of the metal bowl and the bottom of the ceramic ring. Seems like these build ups are not being cleaned and are adding to a faint cooked smell that is always there now, even when empty. Anybody have any thoughts on it? Hardly looks new anymore.. I've attached some pictures.. Seeing the pictures big, you can see how there is residue between the metal bowl sides and the ceramic cone ring
But the mighty behaves in the same way in regard to vibration. Sometimes it just doesn't happen.
About the build up in the bowl can be EASIEST handled with a magic eraser and cold water. I often struggled with hard to clean stains...the magic eraser is pure magic. Once you get it clean, brushing the bowl while warm helps alot.
Also, checking the bottom screen to make sure it's not clogged, might not be a bad idea either
Mine also has the gunk build up at the top. The only thing that is working is a small peice of a magic eraser and a toothpick, it is best to do right after a session, because that build up is going to be a bitch to clean
OR you can gently clean with a safety pin and make sure you scratch nothing....because that's plastic NOT ceramic
biohacker
HREAM
Hey everyone, it's been a while since I sold my Crafty after falling for the Mighty. As much as I worship the Mighty, I do sometimes long for the portability and discretion of the Crafty. So i'm just curious, have there been any updates/improvements since release, specifically in terms of the battery durability? I quickly found the battery to wear, and startup heat times drastically increase. This is something that has not happened with my Mighty, and i've used the Mighty at least 4-5X longer. I'm assuming perhaps the Mighty's batteries are better insulated?
I miss the Crafty! But won't consider it again unless the battery has improved. Thanks!
I miss the Crafty! But won't consider it again unless the battery has improved. Thanks!
HellsWindStaff
Dharma Initiate
Can you detail how you use the Magic Eraser? And is it safe?
Edit: I assume you mean the Mr. Clean product? If that's the case, I don't need an explanation. At first I thought you meant like that grey stretchy art eraser lol.
Edit: I assume you mean the Mr. Clean product? If that's the case, I don't need an explanation. At first I thought you meant like that grey stretchy art eraser lol.
Mr. Me2
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My Crafty is still pretty new, but I think the battery life is poor. Pretty similar to the ff. at least with the Crafty, the blinking light gives you an idea whether it needs a charge (I don't look at the app much). I find that when it starts blinking fast when I shut it off, it's ready for a charge. But I get fewer sessions than I would like before charging (usually just 3). That is one of my very few "complaints" with this Vape. Right now, it's still my fave
Mr. Me2
Well-Known Member
I honestly haven't timed the warmup time. I seems to take a little longer than the pax 2. My best guess is about 2minutes (sorry I can't give you the hard info you want). I'm waiting on a grasshopper for that no wait, immediate gratification.
Krizzle
Hi Very high
Just ordered one of these....
http://www.vapefiend.co.uk/crafty-p...path=crafty/mighty-easy-flow-glass-mouthpiece
Anyone else seen/tried this yet?
http://www.vapefiend.co.uk/crafty-p...path=crafty/mighty-easy-flow-glass-mouthpiece
Anyone else seen/tried this yet?
My Crafty just died yesterday ... was having a session, and was looking at the temperature on my phone, and it kept dropping after an inhale, and when I pressed the button to see what would happen it popped up a message indicating that the device was faulty and should be returned to manufacturer for repair 
... I sent it back today Xpress Post so should be there in a 3-4 days or so.
33-35 hours of use (can't remember exactly) since last Oct (was one of the original units ... serial # in the 500's ...)
Edit: After it failed, I tried charging it, leaving it for a while, etc, etc, but after even a day and a half still the result of trying to power it on would be that it would flash red/yellow 7 times and shut off. No way to get it to do anything else.
... I sent it back today Xpress Post so should be there in a 3-4 days or so.33-35 hours of use (can't remember exactly) since last Oct (was one of the original units ... serial # in the 500's ...)
Edit: After it failed, I tried charging it, leaving it for a while, etc, etc, but after even a day and a half still the result of trying to power it on would be that it would flash red/yellow 7 times and shut off. No way to get it to do anything else.
outletboy
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I have recently been thinking about trying out other vaporizers, either the Mighty or the Crafty but I'm very concerned about battery life. I'm aware that the Mighty can be used while charging, which I'm siding for but what also concerns me is how many loads a full charge can push for both units? I'm not too concerned about portability , i also have a solo just in case !
ginolicious
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Anyone who smoked a Crafty and a Pax1? I'm just curious how they compare. I have vaped both a pax1 and an Air. I do not like either. Does not draw like my Vapir Rise. Who knew I would really enjoy my vape. Anyways I do want a portable. Will the Crafty pull the same way like an Air and Pax?
I owned a pax1 and a few Arizer Solos and numerous other portables.
In my opinion none compare even remotely to the Crafty (Solo being next best I think)
I'm sure many would disagree, but I felt without a water tool the Solo can not compete at all with the Crafty. The Crafty/Mighty cooling units are extremely effective and make the dry experience in a compact form superior by far to any other portables I've tried, and your ability to get large hits dry in such a small form factor is absolutely amazing. (I've been obsessing over finding an effective portable for a couple years prior to the Crafty, and the Crafty has ended that obsession for me for almost a year now ...)
As far as battery life for the Crafty, it's about 4 bowls average for me (so I can go through .6-1g give or take on a charge). The ability to use a USB 2A battery pack to charge the device really alleviates any power issues for me (if I'm going to be having more than 4 bowls while out, then I always plug in after 1-2 sessions and keep it topped up)
The device medicates very effectively ... for the form factor, there's nothing I've found that compares. (just qualifying this that these are my experiences and not necessarily everyone's, and my tolerance is relatively high requiring 2g or so per day to keep me functional)
In my opinion none compare even remotely to the Crafty (Solo being next best I think)
I'm sure many would disagree, but I felt without a water tool the Solo can not compete at all with the Crafty. The Crafty/Mighty cooling units are extremely effective and make the dry experience in a compact form superior by far to any other portables I've tried, and your ability to get large hits dry in such a small form factor is absolutely amazing. (I've been obsessing over finding an effective portable for a couple years prior to the Crafty, and the Crafty has ended that obsession for me for almost a year now ...)
As far as battery life for the Crafty, it's about 4 bowls average for me (so I can go through .6-1g give or take on a charge). The ability to use a USB 2A battery pack to charge the device really alleviates any power issues for me (if I'm going to be having more than 4 bowls while out, then I always plug in after 1-2 sessions and keep it topped up)
The device medicates very effectively ... for the form factor, there's nothing I've found that compares. (just qualifying this that these are my experiences and not necessarily everyone's, and my tolerance is relatively high requiring 2g or so per day to keep me functional)
VaporNinja
Well-Known Member
Sent in my Cafty last week, just go it back today. Only disappointing that they did not sent me a brand new unit... But they did include a new mouthpiece. And updated 2.07 firmware.
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
I have recently been thinking about trying out other vaporizers, either the Mighty or the Crafty but I'm very concerned about battery life. I'm aware that the Mighty can be used while charging, which I'm siding for but what also concerns me is how many loads a full charge can push for both units? I'm not too concerned about portability , i also have a solo just in case !
If you're not concerned about portability, there's no question you should get the Mighty. It's still pretty portable, but if you need some super stealth, it's probably not the choice for you.
I usually get 3-3.5 bowls per charge, but I load large bowls, vape them by myself, and am not hurrying through the bowl. You can get more depending on your vape usage habits. The Mighty has two of the same batteries the Crafty has, so it's essentially twice the battery life .
ginolicious
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Portability not the issue. I don't care if people know what I'm doing. Stealth isn't a necessity. My issue is how the hits feel. By the sounds of it they are comparable to my desktop. Mighty would be nice, don't want to fork over the extra cash for a bigger battery and LCD display.
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
The hits absolutely compare with a desktop unit. I put it just a small step below my EVO, but not by much. The fact that there is that much power in a portable is impressive to me.
And both Crafty and Mighty have very comparable hits. I can't tell a difference between the two, but the Mighty's cooling unit is a little larger, giving it more time to cool the hit. So theoretically it's a little cooler, but like I said, I can't tell a real difference.
Trust me, in your situation, you WANT the Mighty. It's not that much more, and you'll be much happier in the long run. I need some stealth, it's the only reason I have a Crafty over a Mighty.