CouchLog

[MrGreenspoon]

Is there a way I could use a Revolve (Tempest actually) stem with this?

I use the Revolve Gen2 Stem in combination with a camouflet tip with my couchlog. Link to my post in this thread: #1,725
Every stem you can pair with a camouflet convector tip will work.

The second option is to use the stock CL bowl in combination with an o-ring and a dynavap tip - so every stem you can pair with a dynavap tip will work too.

I prefer the first option.

 

[coolbreeze]

I was trying to decide between ZX and Couchlog for about a year. Ended up going for ZX. Discovered I adore 14mm injectors. Now i'm trying to convince myself why I would still have space in my life for a Couchlog at some point

I have both and I use them differently. Would not want to be without either.

I went for ZX because it seemed more capable at low temps, and I find I mostly do high temp single hits.

This is where it excels.

The metal CL bowl on the stems. Does it provide conduction? Is it easy to fully extact in a single hit? Does the bowl require and benefit from pre-heating?

I think the basic difference and where they compliment is the CL is more like a session vape. Where you crush a load with the ZX, the CL herb chamber is more like a log in use than an injector/bowl. You roast your way through it. There probably is a good bit of conduction, the bowl does get hot especially after back to back hits. With the glass bowl, you are mostly doing the same thing, roasting through a larger load of herbs over several hits, usually with a more even roast and possibly better flavor.

Is there a way I could use a Revolve (Tempest actually) stem with this?

Yes, it you do the DV/chamber hack, you can use a DV tip for the herb chamber, on any stem.

I don't think you'd be disappointed or find them too redundant tbh.

 

[RedZep]

I have both and I use them differently. Would not want to be without either.

This is where it excels.

I think the basic difference and where they compliment is the CL is more like a session vape. Where you crush a load with the ZX, the CL herb chamber is more like a log in use than an injector/bowl. You roast your way through it. There probably is a good bit of conduction, the bowl does get hot especially after back to back hits. With the glass bowl, you are mostly doing the same thing, roasting through a larger load of herbs over several hits, usually with a more even roast and possibly better flavor.

Yes, it you do the DV/chamber hack, you can use a DV tip for the herb chamber, on any stem.

I don't think you'd be disappointed or find them too redundant tbh.

When you say you use both ZX and CL differently, could you please expand a little on that? I would really like to know about the subtle differences and use cases.

 

[coolbreeze]

When you say you use both ZX and CL differently, could you please expand a little on that? I would really like to know about the subtle differences and use cases.

I always have both turned on (or the Z8 or SX) with the Z on or next to my desk, and the CL on the coffee table, usually. For quick snaps or med recycler blasts, I go for the ZX, it's so quick and clean. For the CL, sometimes it's a break in the day where I'll fill the MP and sit back and roast through that for 5-10 mins and then back to it. Other times it's fill the MP and just have a hit randomly over the afternoon, during a movie, etc.

If we're watching a movie or something I load up bowl on a waterpiece and then just roast through it doing occasional hits as we sit there. Or it's really nice on the porch, too, for little sessions or occasional hits. You can also also turn up some and kill a decent hit-sized load in one go, I just like it more in a session setting. I think a less aggressive approach keeps flavors better longer.

I think in a nutshell, the Zs are excellent for the flavors and the quick, powerful hit where the CL is excellent for enjoying the flavors, the process, the building high, or for setting down and picking back up again. There's overlap--more probably than my use cases suggest--but with both you've got a spectrum of uses covered handily by two of the nicest vapes available.

 

[nicanaca0]

I don’t remember seeing it mentioned here before but I’ve been using the Camouflet Convector tip friction fit in a CL herb chamber (from the bottom up). Not only oring free but it just seems to work so much better than a Dynavap tip does.

This combo also happens to fit into the intake hole of my SB Jr (w/ a Runt stem) so I’ve been smashing hash on a cotton bed all week and it’s just been a dream to use and soooo easy to maintain.

It’s been super flexible setup. It’s pretty stable stood on the desk but it’s light to hold or carry too. I’ve even had it cordless, dangling from my mouth doing a few hands-free hits before I start drooling too much to hold it firmly

I’ve fallen in love with my CL all over again

I kind of wish there was a fixed-screen CL herb chamber option available. There’s a lot of benefits to the herb chamber but the screen fitment is a big downside for me when not using it with the CL glass mouthpiece.

 

[Texus]

I kind of wish there was a fixed-screen CL herb chamber option available. There’s a lot of benefits to the herb chamber but the screen fitment is a big downside for me when not using it with the CL glass mouthpiece.

Wouldn't the 14mm female Vgoodiez bowl qualify for that? The Joda glass options with a Roffu screen also work nicely and squeeze right into place at a nice distance since the joint tapers.

 

[nicanaca0]

Wouldn't the 14mm female Vgoodiez bowl qualify for that? The Joda glass options with a Roffu screen also work nicely and squeeze right into place at a nice distance since the joint tapers.

Thanks Texus. I wouldn't consider these to be in the same class as the CL herb chamber but I'll check them out as I do need a decent glass option I have the Ditanium titanium bowl which I think would be a closer comparison to the glass bowls, it's has a lot of pros but it's the polar opposite to the CL bowl in a lot of ways.

I find the CL HC to be pretty unique, it has a tiny form factor and it seats in a way that helps minimise heat transfer. To me the CL herb chamber is closer to the wooden Dfreez bowls in form and function.

I'm really happy with the franken-chamber so I don't really need a fixed-screen version, but it would be a nice option to have from 420eng.

 

[sedentree]

Thanks Texus. I wouldn't consider these to be in the same class as the CL herb chamber but I'll check them out as I do need a decent glass option I have the Ditanium titanium bowl which I think would be a closer comparison to the glass bowls, it's has a lot of pros but it's the polar opposite to the CL bowl in a lot of ways.

I find the CL HC to be pretty unique, it has a tiny form factor and it seats in a way that helps minimise heat transfer. To me the CL herb chamber is closer to the wooden Dfreez bowls in form and function.

I'm really happy with the franken-chamber so I don't really need a fixed-screen version, but it would be a nice option to have from 420eng.

Could you post some pictures? I am really struggling to imagine this franken-chamber for some reason

On an aside, I just got the CL glass bowl and am having some issue seating the screen. I believe I should use another 14mm joint to push the screen down but I have nothing suitable to push from the bottom and so I find the screen just ends up sitting sideways with no possibility of material staying where it is meant to

 

[nicanaca0]

Could you post some pictures? I am really struggling to imagine this franken-chamber for some reason

On an aside, I just got the CL glass bowl and am having some issue seating the screen. I believe I should use another 14mm joint to push the screen down but I have nothing suitable to push from the bottom and so I find the screen just ends up sitting sideways with no possibility of material staying where it is meant to

It’s just the Convector tip pushed up into the Cl herb chamber from the bottom, so franken-chamber is a bit of a stretch haha. I can’t seem to embed an img but hopefully this link works.

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Haha unfortunately I don’t have that bowl but I’ve always had luck using my Hydravong stem as a screen setter for 14mm bowls. The other way I’ve done it is by using my finger to get it started and then something a bit flat (maybe the CL wooden tee?) slowly ease it into place bit by bit until friction holds it, but I’m not sure if this would work in this case.

Hopefully someone else has a better trick

 

[sedentree]

It’s just the Convector tip pushed up into the Cl herb chamber from the bottom, so franken-chamber is a bit of a stretch haha. I can’t seem to embed an img but hopefully this link works.

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Haha unfortunately I don’t have that bowl but I’ve always had luck using my Hydravong stem as a screen setter for 14mm bowls. The other way I’ve done it is by using my finger to get it started and then something a bit flat (maybe the CL wooden tee?) slowly ease it into place bit by bit until friction holds it, but I’m not sure if this would work in this case.

Hopefully someone else has a better trick

Thanks for the pic but now I am even more confused
Are you using it with the CL heater somehow? Or is just with the Sticky Brick? Where do you put your herb, in the Camouflet tip I presume?

 

[Texus]

This is what I was referring to:

Borosilicate V3 Injector (14mm Input) Chamber by VGoodiEZ

Made specifically for 14mm input injector style vapes! Phase3 was the first we know of to introduce a 14mm input injector. These will also work with the CouchLog, the SKO, as well as future 14mm offerings that will come to market. Please note this is mass produced glass. There may be some...

vgoodiez.com

 

[nicanaca0]

Thanks for the pic but now I am even more confused
Are you using it with the CL heater somehow? Or is just with the Sticky Brick? Where do you put your herb, in the Camouflet tip I presume?

Oh sorry, re-reading things it's not that clear. I'm using the CL as the heater. I've used the franken-chamber as I would the normal chamber, i.e. on the CL mouthpiece, a waterpiece etc but also on the end of a few 8mm stems. It's been living in the intake hole on the SB Jr for a few days though so the Jr is a glorified j-hook. (My desk isn't clean/clear enough for a good angle of the SB with it in )

Yeah, the herb/hash goes into the Convector tip, not the SB bowl.

The fixed screen of the Convector tip only sits a bit below where the normal herb chamber screen would, so I didn't find the need to bump the power to compensate for anything. I also prefer how the herb chamber mates with the CL heater compared to the default Convector tip, I feel a bit uneasy holding it against the ball screen.

I hope that actually helps clarify things

Edit: @Texus thanks for the link, that's kind of what I was picturing. I've took a pic of how the bowls I have size up against each other.
(14mm glass extender, Ditatnium titanium handpiece, Dfreez bowl and the franken-chamber.

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The Vgoodiez option has a fixed screen but it's wouldn't suit this use-case. I'd LOVE a minimal glass (or zirconia!) bowl option, more akin to the Dfreez bowl

 

[ezpz]

Hopefully someone else has a better trick

Not sure exactly what you’re looking for, but I use a screen mod for microdosing with the CL herb chamber.

https://imgur.com/a/SdmxWzA

Inverted basket screen pushed up from the bottom of the herb chamber.

 

[nicanaca0]

Not sure exactly what you’re looking for, but I use a screen mod for microdosing with the CL herb chamber.

Inverted basket screen pushed up from the bottom of the herb chamber.

I've never had any basket screens but I like this idea a lot! I guess it allows for some adjustment of the bowl size too?

My comment about a trick was referring to setting the screen in the CL glass bowl that @sedentree mentioned. I don't have one so I was just basing my advice on how I set the screen in my j-hook or extender but it's not very helpful. I figure there's got to be an easy way to do it though.

 

[ezpz]

My comment about a trick was referring to setting the screen in the CL glass bowl that @sedentree mentioned.

I was way off

I only use the CL glass bowl with a friction fit basket screen. Screen doesn’t budge, so I just clean the bowl with the screen in it. Haven’t needed to reseat it for awhile now, so I forgot what I used to set the screen.

 

[RedZep]

Not sure exactly what you’re looking for, but I use a screen mod for microdosing with the CL herb chamber.

Inverted basket screen pushed up from the bottom of the herb chamber.

How much material are you getting in there? Clever use of the basket screen btw.

 

[ezpz]

How much material are you getting in there? Clever use of the basket screen btw.

Thanks. I can fit .05 max, so only expensive dispo weed in this bowl. My CL glass bowl with friction fit screen can hold .2, so that gets the 3:1 cbd/thc blend.

 

[RedZep]

Thanks. I can fit .05 max, so only expensive dispo weed in this bowl. My CL glass bowl with friction fit screen can hold .2, so that gets the 3:1 cbd/thc blend.

Does this vape not hit better with smaller loads? I feel like 0.2g would need stirring and multiple hits, which never seems to get the most out of the weeds flavour or effects imo. Always seems like a waste to me

 

[TigoleBitties]

Does this vape not hit better with smaller loads? I feel like 0.2g would need stirring and multiple hits, which never seems to get the most out of the weeds flavour or effects imo. Always seems like a waste to me

I feel it does do better with smaller loads. 0.1-0.15g max I would say.

 

[coolbreeze]

Does this vape not hit better with smaller loads? I feel like 0.2g would need stirring and multiple hits, which never seems to get the most out of the weeds flavour or effects imo. Always seems like a waste to me

I've always used it with the chamber mostly packed or ~.2 in the glass bowl in a session mode, but let's see how she do as a one-hitter:

Ok, just tried it. Yes, it'll work and I think it could be quite good all dialed in. The CL seats decently (but not hands-free) in the Phase3 bowl. This is set to about the temp I usually use with the glass bowl so there's hot-spotting and green edges. I could probably go with a slightly smaller load as well. Let me play with it a bit and see how well I can dial it in. I'm sure this will be a useful option. I'm surprised I haven't tried this before. ; ) I'll have to try the JoDa bowl, that might work better even.

Edit: Kept the temp setting and switched to the JoDa and it's great, does a very nice one-hitter.

 

[ezpz]

I kinda go against what everyone says to do. People say don’t tamp, but I like to tamp the bowl. People say to leave some space between the heater and load, my heater sits right on top the load. Here’s my .2 bowl, 2 hits at temp 4.5, no stirring.




Notice how the outside shell is yellowish brown, but the insides are completely roasted.

 

[Texus]

Yeah, less even heating of the load is one of the few downsides of the CL. But not much you can do with that thickish rim holding in the screen for the balls and heater..

 

[Rodney]

what is the difference between couchlog and couchlog XL and is the site 420eng best place to buy one from?

 

[coolbreeze]

what is the difference between couchlog and couchlog XL and is the site 420eng best place to buy one from?

As far as I know it's the only place to buy one.

The OG CouchLog has a 14mm nozzle that will fit 14mm female ground glass joints, and works great direct with the mouthpiece/chamber. The XL is more or less the same but with an 18mm output that will fit many glass injector bowls. Practically speaking I think the XL is more a protected, full-size injector that can be made to use direct, where the 14mm OG is just as comfortable as a log as it is an injector, but this is speculation having not used an XL. Yet.

 

[Hagbard Celine]

I have a question or two for someone who is more of an expert user of the Couchlog. I bought a used kit on EE and wondering about the placement of the herb chamber in the standard wooden stem that come with it... Is the o-ring supposed to go down into the stem when you insert the herb chamber? To me it seems the o-ring is barely doing anything to hold it in place. Maybe it is helping to make a seal, not sure? But I expected the orings to really hold the herb chamber in place and not finding that it really does that all that well.