Mainly because the bowl from the Herborizer is a lot bigger and the CouchLog seems to be more effective with small loads. Furthermore, while I don‘t mind the handling of the Herborizer and I have developed a robust routine, the CouchLog is a more fun experience in usage.
HI praise if comparing to Herbo for sure. How does CouchLog stack up on flavor? Herbo is my best vape for flavor in my collection...
Sorry, that manual doesn’t show the fact that you need to jam it up into the narrow portion of the air pathway. If you don’t, it just jostles around, and doesn’t work as effectively, and often falls on its side - requiring you to pull the metal bowl out and mess with it. No offense - but the cooling pads are a piss poor design. You should have a “shelf” of wood and a cooling pad a few MM wider than the shelf, which fits flush over the metal bowl. Would be simple, effective and allow better airflow.
Really excellent summary here. Thanks a ton for that. Yeah, I see the form factor and being better suited to microdosing as nice advantages for CouchLog over Herbo.Sorry, that manual doesn’t show the fact that you need to jam it up into the narrow portion of the air pathway. If you don’t, it just jostles around, and doesn’t work as effectively, and often falls on its side - requiring you to pull the metal bowl out and mess with it. No offense - but the cooling pads are a piss poor design. You should have a “shelf” of wood and a cooling pad a few MM wider than the shelf, which fits flush over the metal bowl. Would be simple, effective and allow better airflow.
From the wood stem, flavor is definitely inferior. Full stop.
Without the wood stem and going straight to glass - I’m sure it’s close, but I doubt it’s as good or better, as the Herbo is just a piece of Titanium, where as the Couch Log has ceramic balls, and other components that can/could affect flavor. Frankly though - at that point I think we’re probably splitting hairs though, I’m sure the vast majority of folks won’t be able to tell a difference.
This is just my .02 - but if you already have a Herbo Ti and you plan on using a Couch Log thought glass 100% of the time, I don’t know that there’s a compelling reason to add one to your collection, unless you really have an issue with the exposed hot Ti nail on the Herbo. If you plan on using the Couch Log primarily though the wooden stem direct drawing dry, or intend to do so at least 25-30% of the time, I think it’s a compelling addition to your lineup. If you don’t get own a Herbo Ti and you’re looking at acquiring a heavy hitter - I’d DEFINITELY buy the Couch Log over the Herbo every time. The covered/protected heating element allows you to store it hot almost anywhere + the ability to do dry hits with complete ease = strong value prop over the Herbo. The only area the Herbo has the Couch Log beat is with concentrates - the Herbo is a monster with concentrates.
All the above said, the Couch Log is a work in progress and us early adopters are knowingly buying into the “beta test” if you will. I’d probably suggest waiting for all the niggles to get worked out before jumping in, unless you really want to buy into the beta program. I personally wanted to jump in at the beginning, and I don’t have any regrets - nor would I tell anyone not to buy it, but by the end of this weekend, the Couch Log is going into the closet for long-term hibernation until some of my gripes are addressed, or until I get off my duff and fix them myself.
It functions great, and it is everything it claims to be - but other than extracting faster, and having better glass compatibility - it doesn’t do anything better than my Tafee Bowle. The opposite can’t be said though and the TB has some clear, and compelling benefits over the Couch Log. With all the cheap cords (they hold their bend unlike a braided cord and look messy), the mismatched wood on the controller, the inferior flavor (dry), inferior cooling and the goofy mix of parts/pieces required to use the couch log which are all stored loosely, 15+ min heat up time - it’s just not something for me at this phase in it’s lifecycle. I’m sure Chris will work these issues out though, and when it does - he’s got a serious winner.
I am waiting until I've used this device for the full two weeks before I start giving my "review" but I will say this is not my experience with the cooling pads. I have not have trouble placing them and I also like the flexibility of removing them. I occasionally use the golf tee to flip them if they go in sideways. I tend to use my CL at very low temps during the day and I only want one cooling pad. In the evening I either take them out completely to use the log on glass, or I put in two and crank up the juice. I like the flexibility this enables.
I believe flavor is highly subjective, but in my (time-limited) opinion, while using it with the glass bowl it stacks up to the Herborizer easily. I definitely need to do further testing though, so take it with a grain of salt. Flavor and „purity“ of vapor is quite hard to quantify. I did not test the wood stem yet, but this one certainly alters the flavor.
Sorry, that manual doesn’t show the fact that you need to jam it up into the narrow portion of the air pathway. If you don’t, it just jostles around, and doesn’t work as effectively, and often falls on its side - requiring you to pull the metal bowl out and mess with it. No offense - but the cooling pads are a piss poor design. You should have a “shelf” of wood and a cooling pad a few MM wider than the shelf, which fits flush over the metal bowl. Would be simple, effective and allow better airflow.
From the wood stem, flavor is definitely inferior. Full stop.
Without the wood stem and going straight to glass - I’m sure it’s close, but I doubt it’s as good or better, as the Herbo is just a piece of Titanium, where as the Couch Log has ceramic balls, and other components that can/could affect flavor. Frankly though - at that point I think we’re probably splitting hairs though, I’m sure the vast majority of folks won’t be able to tell a difference.
This is just my .02 - but if you already have a Herbo Ti and you plan on using a Couch Log thought glass 100% of the time, I don’t know that there’s a compelling reason to add one to your collection, unless you really have an issue with the exposed hot Ti nail on the Herbo. If you plan on using the Couch Log primarily though the wooden stem direct drawing dry, or intend to do so at least 25-30% of the time, I think it’s a compelling addition to your lineup. If you don’t get own a Herbo Ti and you’re looking at acquiring a heavy hitter - I’d DEFINITELY buy the Couch Log over the Herbo every time. The covered/protected heating element allows you to store it hot almost anywhere + the ability to do dry hits with complete ease = strong value prop over the Herbo. The only area the Herbo has the Couch Log beat is with concentrates - the Herbo is a monster with concentrates.
All the above said, the Couch Log is a work in progress and us early adopters are knowingly buying into the “beta test” if you will. I’d probably suggest waiting for all the niggles to get worked out before jumping in, unless you really want to buy into the beta program. I personally wanted to jump in at the beginning, and I don’t have any regrets - nor would I tell anyone not to buy it, but by the end of this weekend, the Couch Log is going into the closet for long-term hibernation until some of my gripes are addressed, or until I get off my duff and fix them myself.
It functions great, and it is everything it claims to be - but other than extracting faster, and having better glass compatibility - it doesn’t do anything better than my Tafee Bowle. The opposite can’t be said though and the TB has some clear, and compelling benefits over the Couch Log. With all the cheap cords (they hold their bend unlike a braided cord and look messy), the mismatched wood on the controller, the inferior flavor (dry), inferior cooling and the goofy mix of parts/pieces required to use the couch log which are all stored loosely, 15+ min heat up time - it’s just not something for me at this phase in it’s lifecycle. I’m sure Chris will work these issues out though, and when it does - he’s got a serious winner.
I believe flavor is highly subjective, but in my (time-limited) opinion, while using it with the glass bowl it stacks up to the Herborizer easily. I definitely need to do further testing though, so take it with a grain of salt. Flavor and „purity“ of vapor is quite hard to quantify. I did not test the wood stem yet, but this one certainly alters the flavor.
While I certainly believe all your points are quite valid for your situation, I do not understand the „work in progress“ and „beta test“ part. Which functional aspect of the vape would you want to see improved?
And I most certainly do not understand why you bench the CouchLog in favor of another vape, that fills quite a different niche, but to each their own
I have always been a „form follows function“ kind of guy though, so I do not value aesthetics quite as much - I would never worry about mismatching wood types. I absolutely understand your reasoning nevertheless.
Yup. These are the things I am waiting for. Tho if matching PSU will take a while I might get the cheap PSU option and then upgrade once the matching wood ones come out. Or if there was a trade-in option on those.
Probably better to start a new thread in the Ask FC section. These comparisons aren't supposed to be on the individual device threads. It also helps people looking to answer the same question.
You are correct - every vape is supposed to extract plant material, but that is not what I mean with niche. Or maybe use case would be more accurate. In my opinion the Bowl fills the niche of portable, on demand convection vaporizers quite well. And I do not refer to the specific routine you pointed out, but rather the essence of the vape itself. The TinyMight would be a more adequate comparison, that satisfies the same niche.
I can't say I have these issues. The stems at my controller aren't wobbling around and don't pop out. Also the stem at the log is quite flush with the device. There's maybe 1 mm space?
I will drop it as well - but I believe we have very different definitions of „portable“. For me it is considered portable, insofar it has a battery and can be powered without mains electricity, irregardless of individual use case or a non-functional cup.
So think that confirms it that you have a dud.
Length 7 inches assembled, more or less exactly; weight about 149 grams for a mostly kingwood body and mouthpiece, no cooling pad, cables, or controller.
Exactly what I wanted, thank you. I'm tryin' my darndest to get my baby steps to take longer strides.
