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Discontinued The Grasshopper

Hjalmark

Oldest boy alive
Hopper labs business practice is bit interesting after mix of bad luck and bad customer experience it feels bit pythonioum
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Wonder if the new more powerful heater is to vaporize the oil condensing on the circuit board and bring in needed cash flow
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
For my troubles proof-reading the new Hopper io website prior to launch, I also volunteered to make a purchase to test checkout - and I bought a Ti PFE which was in stock and something I didn’t already have. I also rationalized giving Hopper a little business as my repaired pre order Ti continues to run well 7+ months after its lone RMA.

I gave the PFE a quick ISO bath on Saturday but didn’t take it with me the next day on vacation but I do have my Hopper with me and extra batteries and the mag charger in case I obtain some flower where I’m at (non legal state and I did not want to chance taking some flower with me on a plane). Looking forward to using the PFE for the first time when I return from vacation. Maybe it’ll be the catalyst to take out the glass rig from hibernation as I use my Hopper natively most of the time.

I also soaked the native frontend in ISO too before I left and the screen indeed is coming loose regularly. A few pages back someone mentioned that the material hardens when vaped and sticks to the screen. Definitely true yet I try not to overpack the chamber but I’m sure moving the unit around as it cools likely plays a part in this. No matter as a few twists of the fine point tweezers gets it back in place.

Hoping a bit of flowers lands my way while on vacation. We’ll see...:leaf::peace:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Maybe I should have characterized it differently than, "the material hardens when vaped." More accurate would be, "unspent vapor in the chamber condenses and becomes sticky then solidifies, effectively adhering the mouthpiece screens' flange to the top rim (the end) of the body's chamber." I think this is the most likely cause of the 'loose screen syndrome'. (When you try to unscrew the mp, the screen stays put and becomes un-threaded from mp).

So, extra drawing after shut-off is valuable for clearing the chamber of said vapor. Emptying the chamber while still warm helps prevent said sticking, or re-warming if it's been allowed to cool may help loosen said adhesion and prevent the screen from loosening.

I had become re-aquainted with standard mouthpiece for the past couple of months, native use. But recently I removed screen and internals from one AFTER 24 hr iso soak, rinse was still dirty, another 24 hrs then rinse, then inspect and that little plastic thingy attached to the screen was still dirty, as were parts of the metal inner funnel. It's too many pieces for my liking, so I'm back to PFE -- this time with a SS 510 drip tip that does an amazing job at cooling both vapor and the surface touched by the lips.
 
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Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
So, extra drawing after shut-off is valuable for clearing the chamber of said vapor. Emptying the chamber while still warm helps prevent said sticking, or re-warming if it's been allowed to cool may help loosen said adhesion and prevent the screen from loosening.
Bingo. Perfect. Better stated than I did. I always clear the the chamber of vapor: turn off the unit and keep inhaling a few secs. I’ve always done this for years. As for emptying chamber when warm, that could vary depending on the situation and likely the issue. I’ll try to do this more when warm rather than cold.

Still on vacation but haven’t used my Hopper yet, perhaps tomorrow. My friend has a 4-temp APX vape we used on the beach and I didn’t have my Hopper with me. He has some hash too I want to try. Tomorrow! In the mean time I’ve been using a concentrate pod which works (and easier to bring on a plane than flower). Happy Humpday. :peace:
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
I think we are all on the same page. I was the one that brought up the screen sticking from a “cold” chamber. I was merely pointing out that it doesn’t matter how much you load, you can still experience this issue with a small amount of material.
 

Terpenetime

Well-Known Member
One of my hoppers makes a very light ticking sound when it’s switched on. I’m not sure if it’s always done it or not but I’m currently using it in combination with a Sneaky Pete Watering Can. This brings the hopper very close to my ear, which is why it’s come to my attention.

Any thoughts anyone?
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
So, my GH front end screen recently started sticking and backing out when I unscrew the front end.

I put it some ISO for a bit which fixed it for a short time.

So, I put in it ISO in my ultrasonic cleaner for 20 minutes and all is good. No more sticking...for now.

It seems to take a good bit of ISO soak to get all of the reclaim and gunk out.

Cheers
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
I was merely pointing out that it doesn’t matter how much you load, you can still experience this issue with a small amount of material.
Thanks! I’ve been more diligent since that post and try not to over pack the chamber and tamp down any minor flower above the rim. The issue still occurs as you state. Not a big deal but at least I know the likely cause - and use the fine point tweezers to screw the screen back in place. I’m hesitant to remove the screen altogether (I have in the past but seldom) and don’t want to mess it up. The edges are starting to buckle and fray a bit likely from attempting to unscrew it. Again, not a big deal and more frequent ISO baths should help. The main thing is the Hopper still works and works well! And my PFE is waiting for me when I get back from vacation :):peace:
 

fogbank

Well-Known Member
So, my GH front end screen recently started sticking and backing out when I unscrew the front end.

I put it some ISO for a bit which fixed it for a short time.

So, I put in it ISO in my ultrasonic cleaner for 20 minutes and all is good. No more sticking...for now.

It seems to take a good bit of ISO soak to get all of the reclaim and gunk out.

Cheers

My experience with my 2016 Ti Hopper is that once the screen started coming loose it continued to do so, even after cleaning/tightening/cleaning/tightening...

The screen became dented by so many attempts to tighten it. I eventually just replaced the front end.

Hope you have better luck....
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
One of my hoppers makes a very light ticking sound when it’s switched on. I’m not sure if it’s always done it or not but I’m currently using it in combination with a Sneaky Pete Watering Can. This brings the hopper very close to my ear, which is why it’s come to my attention.

Any thoughts anyone?
The ticking sound is completely normal, no need to worry.
 

vapor.man

Well-Known Member
At the moment both of my hoppers don't really work. My TI shows red/blue cop lights after some seconds and doesn't heat at all, I think the sensor or heater is damaged. The SS unit is not performing good since several month. Sometimes it was OK but since yesterday it only heats up and switches to blue if i put it on temp 1-2. If the temp is set higher the light stays red for 20-30 seconds and then switches off. Tried 4 different batteries, 3 backends and cleaned all I could with Blu Tack but didn't help.
Is there any known fix I could try?
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
At the moment both of my hoppers don't really work. My TI shows red/blue cop lights after some seconds and doesn't heat at all, I think the sensor or heater is damaged. The SS unit is not performing good since several month. Sometimes it was OK but since yesterday it only heats up and switches to blue if i put it on temp 1-2. If the temp is set higher the light stays red for 20-30 seconds and then switches off. Tried 4 different batteries, 3 backends and cleaned all I could with Blu Tack but didn't help.
Is there any known fix I could try?
Last time that happened with mine it was corrected by a new battery. Several other batteries I had could power a different Grasshopper I have, while none but a newer one could power this particular hopper, except briefly at low temp.
 

Hjalmark

Oldest boy alive
Maybe I should have characterized it differently than, "the material hardens when vaped." More accurate would be, "unspent vapor in the chamber condenses and becomes sticky then solidifies, effectively adhering the mouthpiece screens' flange to the top rim (the end) of the body's chamber." I think this is the most likely cause of the 'loose screen syndrome'. (When you try to unscrew the mp, the screen stays put and becomes un-threaded from mp).

So, extra drawing after shut-off is valuable for clearing the chamber of said vapor. Emptying the chamber while still warm helps prevent said sticking, or re-warming if it's been allowed to cool may help loosen said adhesion and prevent the screen from loosening.

I had become re-aquainted with standard mouthpiece for the past couple of months, native use. But recently I removed screen and internals from one AFTER 24 hr iso soak, rinse was still dirty, another 24 hrs then rinse, then inspect and that little plastic thingy attached to the screen was still dirty, as were parts of the metal inner funnel. It's too many pieces for my liking, so I'm back to PFE -- this time with a SS 510 drip tip that does an amazing job at cooling both vapor and the surface touched by the lips.

Finally someone joins my drip tip cult!!!!

ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US!!!

Second step is adding tiny bit of degumped hemp fiber into the pfe end and let the drip tip hold it in place and drastically lowers dust particles going into your mouth :tup: then of course burning all your belongings and wire transfer me your money and I send over the monk rope that will now be the only thing you own...
Plus all the vape crap we accumulate over time :brow: your allowed to keep that :rofl:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
For anyone in CA or US especially, who wants to buy a new Grasshopper, the US dollar exchange rate has brought a SS down to $201 (vs. $225 at HL site) and a pfe is only about $22.50 compared to $30.
I bought one (in '18) from TheHerbCafe.com and had a great experience.
What ever their freebie was at the time, they agreed to send me a silicone mp in stead.
Shipping was free (To NY) and no sales tax.
No duty charged because Hoppers are made in US!

Still not for the faint of heart, or as an 'only vape', but if you're already leaning towards it, this is a nice opportunity.
 

Alex3oe

Accessory Maker
As expected, my second hand Hopper stopped working properly. If it ever has...
Lights seem to indicate an sensor error, sometimes lights get and stay blue, but no vape is produced. Have 3 cells to switch and gone through the troubleshooting guides, but with no effort.

Does anyone know, when Hopperlabs will open their RMA again? And I think I'll have to pay the shipping costs?
 
Alex3oe,

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Does anyone know, when Hopperlabs will open their RMA again? And I think I'll have to pay the shipping costs?
1. No. Or, technically, you can get in line, by initiating a request at the warranty portal at the new website.
2. Typically you'll pay to send to them, they pay shipping back to you.

Edit;
Have you blown it out with compressed air? Sometimes it's gunk on the temp sensor.
 

SpaceManWalking

Well-Known Member
As expected, my second hand Hopper stopped working properly. If it ever has...
Lights seem to indicate an sensor error, sometimes lights get and stay blue, but no vape is produced. Have 3 cells to switch and gone through the troubleshooting guides, but with no effort.

Does anyone know, when Hopperlabs will open their RMA again? And I think I'll have to pay the shipping costs?

They have had my Hopper since the beginning of November 2019. They didn't send any kind of update after the fire regarding units that had been in for repair at the time of the fire so I had to reach out to find out what happened to it. They said they still had to check to see what units were damaged in the fire and that it would be a minimum of 60 - 90 days as of mid-February so I don't expect it back until towards the end of this year based on my previous experiences with RMAs. They also mentioned that it'd be nice if I could send them some money for the repair. Getting the repairs completed seems to be at the bottom of their list of priorities.

I did have to pay for the return shipping (they did randomly send a return label for one of my RMAs but I paid shipping every other time).
 
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Alex3oe

Accessory Maker
Wrote a mail to Hopperlabs and got a response very fast. They asked me to login over at thehopper.io cause all RMA is handeled via the new site meanwhile.

Nothing to complain about for me up to now :D
 
Alex3oe,

slozukimc

Well-Known Member
@Hopper Labs

I had forgotten to send my grey Ti back end back to you after I received the one you sent me. Which is working wonderfully, thank you. What is the proper address to send it to? I wasn’t sure if I have the right one(4571 Broadway) after the fire. I was going to ask in the portal but my warranty was closed.

I apologize for the delay!!
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
@Hopper Labs

I had forgotten to send my grey Ti back end back to you after I received the one you sent me. Which is working wonderfully, thank you. What is the proper address to send it to? I wasn’t sure if I have the right one(4571 Broadway) after the fire. I was going to ask in the portal but my warranty was closed.

I apologize for the delay!!
You've got the correct address.
 

Vaporific

All who wander are not lost...
I used my new Ti PFE last night and just a few minutes ago mated to my glass rig. WOW! Simply amazing and something I should do more often. I’ve seldom used any filtration with my Hopper. I had it on 4.2, finished off a lightly used load in 3 medium draws, loaded another chamber with the same Cherry Cookies, and did another couple of draws. And just finished off the chamber while typing this out having breakfast. Simply amazing. Smoother and cooler hits with deeper effect. I couldn’t do this before my RMA. I’m ecstatic I have a Hopper that works so damn well now!

Most ironically perhaps, I’ll have my new Tinymight in hand for the the first time. Going to be a fun weekend :D:peace:
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
I used my new Ti PFE last night and just a few minutes ago mated to my glass rig. WOW! Simply amazing and something I should do more often. I’ve seldom used any filtration with my Hopper. I had it on 4.2, finished off a lightly used load in 3 medium draws, loaded another chamber with the same Cherry Cookies, and did another couple of draws. And just finished off the chamber while typing this out having breakfast. Simply amazing. Smoother and cooler hits with deeper effect. I couldn’t do this before my RMA. I’m ecstatic I have a Hopper that works so damn well now!

Most ironically perhaps, I’ll have my new Tinymight in hand for the the first time. Going to be a fun weekend :D:peace:
Nice.
I'll pass on that my cleaning method for the pfe is very hot tap water, holding the pfe with some small tongs that grip it well.
After a minute or less running water thru I shove some paper towel in and wipe the threads, and if there are some particles on the towel I'll give another quick rinse. Screen always cleans up nice.

(I also had a new vape arrive yesterday just in time to help ride out covid-19, a Milaana 3. I think it may be similar experience to the TMight...takes some dialing-in...)
My plan for protecting against the virus is to keep coating all my soft tissue with vapor. I'm hoarding bud! (don't put this tip on FB or the panic buying might affect the canna markets!)
 
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