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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    Well sure, if you want to harvest lots of honey the glass stem is the better option, but I find the dart stem more comfortable to use in general. I also like the taste of wood, and as with the MFLB, it benefits from being anti-bacterial. When you put it on the end of the Orbiter's draw whip it makes it feel super fancy :lol:, and again I find the shape preferable to the acrylic stub it comes with. Also, the Orbiter only really tends to get a lot of buildup in the whip that plugs in to the box, so the draw whip stays pretty clean. You're not going to be collecting much honey at the mouthpiece, that's for sure.
     
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  2. 1flyfisher

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    Holy SHit I love the Power Adapter. I got it yesterday. SO much better than screwing with the batteries. I highly recommend you get one. It's pretty cheap right now $53.99 to your door.
    The finishing grinder is $22.95 right now on Amazon if you need one. I can say mine works great and it gives you the perfect grind every time.

    Also what is honey?
     
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  3. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    Something that bees make? :shrug: Seriously, other than that, I'm clueless.
     
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  4. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    Glad you're liking the PA!
    By honey I mean the yellowish-brown buildup of condensed vapor you see on the inside of a well-used stem or vaporizer. It's not gross like resin from combustion, but more or less pure condensed vapor goodness. There are plenty of creative uses for it (like making stoney hot chocolate :brow:).
     
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  5. 1flyfisher

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    and how do you get it out of the glass stem?
     
  6. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Some make their hot chocolate straight from there. Others dissolve the condensate in ISO or Ethanol and evaporate the solvent off. Some poke a small piece of bud through and carefully vape that.

    OF
     
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  7. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    Some people use iso and then let it evaporate on a plate and scrape off what's left (only do this with a glass stem, as iso will damage acrylic). Other people will push a tiny bit of herb through so it's covered in honey and smoke it. If you heat up whole milk on the stove (fat required!) and stir the stem in it until the THC in the stem binds to the fat in the milk, you'll have a nice "edible" of sorts. The effectiveness in all of these situations is dependent on how much honey is built up, how potent and what strain your herbs are, what temperature you vape at, and many other variables. Typically it's recommended to wait until there's fairly significant build up (can't see through it from the side). You can post a picture of your stem when you think it's time to harvest and people will help you out.

    Also just saw OF's post when I was about to post this. :doh: He's a little more succinct :lol:
     
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  8. 1flyfisher

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    DO you mean to just use it as a straw with hot chocolate or coffee and let the hot liquid dissolve it?
     
  9. VapeForTheTaste

    VapeForTheTaste New Member

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    The method I've used is rip the corner off a baggie, take the cotton off both ends of a cotton swab, put the cotton in the baggie corner, push through the stem onto wax paper, no goo container, etc.
     
  10. KidFated.

    KidFated. Watch your pawking metaws.

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    I do the same, minus the bag corner part. I assume you have a reason for it..
     
  11. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Either will work, both are done. But not with coffee. At least not without lots of real cream. Lots. You need rich hot chocolate (don't even think about non or low fat milk.....). Whole milk will usually cut it, better with cream or 'half and half' as well. The THC has to bond to the fat to get into your system.

    Coffee and non dairy creamer is like putting artificial sweetener in the humming bird feeder.

    OF
     
  12. VapeForTheTaste

    VapeForTheTaste New Member

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    I just don't use cotton. I might if I used concentrates more, but I usually just save up a few globs of reclaim and take dabs here and there.
     
  13. 1flyfisher

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    What setting do you guys run your pa at? I am using 50% and just leaving it there for the most part but I use both the power button and the dial as well as my draw to control the temp. Sometimes I dial it up to 75% during a draw.
     
  14. mplx

    mplx Active Member

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    That`s the right temp setting for me. Just below 50%. I vape all my herbs on this setting till they are brown. When the LB gets older and the screen dirtier, i might need to turn up the power a little. When i vape hash in a tray i set it higher, at ~60% and the lasts draws even at 80%

    75% at a rather new LB with just herbs would be too high for me.
     
  15. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Comparing notes is good, I think, but remember boxes are individuals (as are their owners.....). I own several MFLBs and they don't all perform the same at the same setting on the PA.

    OF
     
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  16. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    That's funny, I used to do the same thing when I first started to use the PA! Although I haven't owned one (at least not until tomorrow :D), I've borrowed a friend's for a couple months. There's also been a whole lot of handling the PA side of things while a newer vaporist drew from my Orbiter. I was able to give many a newb large tasty vapor hits while requiring very little briefing. Teach someone how fast to draw by showing them the bubbles, then juice up the box for a big rip.

    After a while I gave up on working the dial during a draw. It just means I need an extra hand to operate my whole rig and there are times it can be pretty inconvenient.

    I tend to leave the dial at a set place and alter the temperature by pulsing the button and varying my draw speed. With the Orbiter, I engage the PA until it just starts to produce thicker vapor, then I release the button until it cools down again, while drawing faster to cool things down. Repeat as many times as needed during the hit. I will touch the dial if the current setting fails to produce vapor, simply nudging it up 5-10% to increase the temp just a little.

    My old box liked a setting of 60-65%, while my new box is more in the 35-40% range, depending on dryness of herb.

    Do a whole bunch of experimenting!
     
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  17. 1flyfisher

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    I've been playing with it a bit but I don't plan on using the dial to adjust temp very often, it is set it and for get it. . I now have it set at a tad below 50%. It seems to be working pretty good right there. I also turn it up if need be which from time to time I do at the end of a trench. It is so much better at home than constantly swapping and charging batteries. I like the battery option for out and about and while on the lakes and in the wilderness. THe batteries work but not as nice as the charger. THe power adapter gives consistent energy and heat and doesn't wear down like the bateries. the batteries make the Mflb much more touchy. I think the power adapter makes this thing much easier and more enjoyable to use. FOr batteries, I cAN CARRY 4 with me in a pocket while flyfishing, that should be ok for all day use for about 4 trenches. I have a 1hour charger and will plug that into the car to charge my batteries for daily use while camping. My 1 hour charger works great and has been charging dozens of AA for my depth finder. As long as I don't run down my auto battery. I figure an hour will be ok. I am looking forward to trying out the auto adapter. Between charging the AA batteries and using the power adapter I hope I don't kill my car battery out in the boonies in the middle of winter and get stuck. LOL.
     
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  18. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    You can clean the acrylic tube carefully.. and you can use Iso if you take precaution.
    When done, you can vape the cotton from the q-tip used.
     
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  19. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    Point taken. Your method definitely looks much safer than dipping the stem in iso (I've seen an acrylic stem crack and fall apart after being submersed in iso). Making sure you squeeze the q-tip to get rid of most of the iso seems like an ideal plan. Might have to clean out my acrylic stem sometime :D
     
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  20. llamaman001

    llamaman001 Well-Known Member

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    lol Maybe my acrylic is stronger than yalls? I have only 3 stems that Ive had for over a year now and clean them about once a month by throwing them in a bottle with ISO and shaking like there is no tomorrow and they bang around all over the place. All 3 still look brand new when they come out....
     
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  21. MileHighLife

    MileHighLife Whiskey Tango

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    It's the length of time that they are in the iso that ruins them. I have done quick soaks and they turned out fine but one time I accidentally left an acrylic stem soaking for a day and by the time I realized it the thing was cracked like crazy and looked all dried out and cloudy.
     
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  22. 1flyfisher

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    I threw mine in a bowl submerged in 50% ISO. It is like $7.95 to buy a new one if it breaks.

    So basically the best way to extract the honey is to soak the stem in iso and then just evaporate the remaining iso off and then scrape up the goo and smoke it up?
     
  23. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't think so.

    The ISO is clearly attacking the plastic, making stuff I really don't think you want to be breathing vapors of? A glass stem is OK of course.

    IMO not a very good idea at all. Stick to stuff that doesn't attack the plastic.

    OF
     
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  24. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    :tup::tup: Same method, Same results Here.
     
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  25. 1flyfisher

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    What plastic? I thought it is a glass stem and Magic Flight/video says to soak the glass stem in Iso to clean it.
     

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