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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. 1flyfisher

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    What is this a bong attachment? What does it do exactly?

    This is not a cloud blower. MF even says that to do it correctly you won't be getting huge clouds or even any visible vapor. When I pack a fresh trench those first 3 hits are very tasty fresh bud like flavor cloudy vapes. then after that it tapers off almost completely by the 4th and remaining draws. that's how it's been for me. I would not recommend this to someone that wants to blow clouds. Me I could give a fuck about clouds as long as I get medicated.

    I am not exactly familiar with a space case I thought the were good grinders. But your basic 2-3-4 piece grinder with the metal teeth will not get the grind fine enough for the MFLB. My cromium crusher grinds it to perfect joint rolling consistency and what I consider the perfect grind for smoking but not for the LB.
    Pre grind with your space case and then finishing grind with the MF FG. That's what I do. I just pre grind a bunch into a tightvac/pocketvac which is a nice little odor free container for $5.99.

    CHeck Amazon for the finishing grinder. They have the lowest price. I got mine for $25 and last I saw they were now only $22. So worth it. Finishing grinder and power adapter are must haves. You can grind with a plastic pill contaoner and a nickle but the FG is sweet.
     
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  2. KidFated.

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    It's a water pipe adapter for milkin glass and blowin clouds ;)
     
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  3. 1flyfisher

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    Some folks put buds directly into the FG. I tried it. I don't recommend doing that either. I pre grind. I get rid of all the stems. Even after picking out all 99% of all the stems, when I grind with the FG I always get little tiny stem pieces remaining and I do not want to grind them any further and vape them so I always dump a little of the stem bits and pieces into my abv. I am expecting a very potent abv oil. So a little kief and grind ends up in my ABV collection along with some tiny stem bits. Gonna get high high high!!!!!!
     
  4. MichaelAB

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    The MFLB can certainly produce some clouds to blow--especially through water with a PA--if one so desires. But yes, MF didn't design this to be a cloud maker and it's not the best recommendation for someone who wants to chase clouds with every hit.

    The water pipe attachment you see appears to be a female-female adapter, I think, to accommodate two male WP ends.

    That's a nice looking little piece of glass.
     
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  5. 1flyfisher

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    what does milkin glass mean?
    so it makes clouds?
     
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  8. hf

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    Yeah its a female to female adaptor, and I really like the piece. It has a really wide base and is like the perfect size for the mflb, it definitely makes it more of a heavy hitter along with the PA.
     
  9. 1flyfisher

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    What is the best way to charge AA batteries with a car battery?
    I have a 1-hour charger that does 4 batteries. I will need 4 batteries a day. I can't run down my vehicle battery while out in the boonies. I was going to plug the 1-hour charger into a power adapter. That seems quickest and most efficient. Any better ways to do it?
     
  10. poonman

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    Have the car running at the same time .
    You will need a power inverter , I had one that could fit a 3 prong .
    So I can use my shaver too ...
     
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  11. OF

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    The best way is with a high quality charger that runs directly off 12 Volts DC. Using a power adapter to make 120 Volts (and some heat.....the heat is a clue you don't want) is a flat out loser. Not to mention the wall wart itself. Charger speed is not really an issue, efficiency is. You want to use as few Watts as possible putting the required Watts back into the batteries.

    Back in my traveling days, I used to do this sort of stuff using a motorcycle battery which I'd plug into the cigarette lighter jack when on the road to recharge. Never had cranking issues that way. Today I'd probably use a 12 or 20 Ah gel battery, which are common and cheap. If the battery is good in your ride you should be able to pull 15 or 20 Ah out and still be fine unless it's really hard starting?

    OF
     
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  12. 1flyfisher

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    CHarger speed/time is the issue for me. I need my batteries charged in around an hour. I can not run down my car battery. Plus I am in no way going to buy another charger. I already have to buy a power inverter. I already have 2 chargers a high quality 1 hour charger charger and the charger that came with the MFLB; they both work great. Best method includes the cheapest.
     
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  13. OF

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    Suit yourself.

    Next time you ask a question like "What is the best way to charge AA batteries with a car battery?" I'll try to remember not to waste my time answering/trying to help.

    Good luck with it.

    OF
     
  14. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    How do you expect to charge 4 batteries in an hour without running down your car battery or running your engine? You have to get electricity from somewhere, I'm not sure you'll be able to find a cheap method to make that happen. And like OF said (he knows his stuff about electricty), using a 12 volt car jack to produce 120 volts for a standard wall charger is a big waste. You can't get fast, low power, and cheap all at the same time.
     
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  15. 1flyfisher

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    It's 4 AA batteries. I hope my car battery can handle charging four AA batteries. I am going to plug the charger into a power inverter and that will either be enough to charge up a few AA batteries or it won't Idf it isn't then this mflb is usless for camping if you have to buy more expensive shit for it. .I will either be charging batteries with my 1 hour charger or the MFLB will be sitting back at camp and I'll smoke a good ole joint.

    Now you're telling me I have to buy another charger? fuck that i have two already. if the mf charger uis a pos then this thing is useless for camping.

    YEah DOn't answer if you are going to get upset because I didn't agree with you that your answer is best. It isn't best for me . I don't want to spend any more money on this thing. So my solution is better. Sorry. deal with it. ANd if using a power inveter and a charger I already have doesn't work I'll light a bowl.
     
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  16. davesmith

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    Or you could buy a butane vape @1flyfisher ?

    Also lets not get arsey. @OF has a lot of kudos around here but he doesn't tolerate fools. Be grateful for his input whether it's useful for you or not. believe it or not he does know his stuff.

    I'd say why not give it a go and report back to us with charging times etc? As long as your car's running there shouldn't be a problem running down your battery. So maybe an extra jerry can of petrol/diesel will suffice to help charge your battery? Not the best solution but it's better than walking back from the lake lol
     
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  17. poonman

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    Then , just buy more batteries , you will eventually anyways .
    Have them pre-charged before you leave your house .
    I have 8 batteries in rotation with a 4 slot charger .
    You may want to have more batteries for your camping trip .
     
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  18. Dynalowrider

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    First off I'm a retired Master Electrician. I got my Masters licence in 1970. This said so you guys won't think I'm blowing smoke.
    Almost all chargers (not all you have to look), have an input for 12v, even the charger that comes with the LB, (look on the bottom). The MAHA C-9000 has a 12v input.
    As for myself I have a Stanley 300 amp jump start battery, that has a 12v outlet, (cigarette lighter), and a USB outlet. You can charge it by 120v, or 12v, as well as jump start your car. Most people do not realize batteries charge faster on DC than on an AC adapter. Mainly because you don't get pure DC from an AC adapter. You get pulsing DC, (one reason the PA pulses on max when on the AC adapter). To get pure DC from a wall-wart is asking a lot in such a small space. I use my PA on DC. It never pulses on the jsb. I use the jsb to charge my cell phone. It's about a 1/2 to 3/4 hour faster.
    The MFLB is not that complicated. There is less than a dollar in parts in this thing. Ohms law says if you know the voltage and the resistance, then you can calculate how much heat you will get. The spot welding of the screen can be different from box to box, so there is no set way to use them all. Just remember to shake between sips. The herbs need to touch the screen to be heated properly.
    Ok I've said my piece. Be easy on me I'm an old man. I can just turn my deaf ear. ;-}
     
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  19. KidFated.

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    I'm in electrical class right now! :) with my launch box too!
     
  20. Traaaaan

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    Anyone get an etched lid? I am regretting having my lid etched as it obstructs the view of the vapor building up.
     
  21. KidFated.

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    I have a few without and one with. I've learned that no matter how much it bugs me, it still performs the same. I have the flower so I REALLY can't see anything.. My buddy has a Celtic tree and you can see the trench just fine from sides but not front and back
     
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  22. Traaaaan

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    I just picked up the PA and was using it for the first time last night. The etching made visually judging the vapor production at various settings a bit harder than I imagined.
     
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  23. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    I feel like it might be more of an issue when judging how tossed your trench is (making sure any darker stuff is on top). While I've definitely dabbled in looking at the trench when vaping, I go mostly by taste and feel. In my experience by the time vapor starts showing in the trench the box is already super close to combustion. With a smooth consistent draw hardly any vapor shows in the box. What I've found to really help judge vapor production is to hook your box up to a water piece or j hook. Then you can see exactly how much vapor is coming out of the box at any given time, and adjust your technique accordingly. The Orbiter is just about perfect for this :D

    Also, here's my full setup, PA included (finally!). Other accessories not included. :dog:

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. 1flyfisher

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    So what is the cheapest easiest quickest way to charge my batteries from a vehicle. I have a brand new quality battery in my rig. I was going to get this item and use it with the charger I have. I can start my vehicle before and after charging. In the winter I often fire up the vehicle and let it run 15 minutes to heat up the interior. I run the vehicle a few times in the evening to stay warm. I don't want batteries on a fuckin charger for hours or over night. I have a 1 hour charger for the last 10+ yeqars and it works great. I do not want to dump any more money into this. I have spent enough already on this thing. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040U3MI8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AWZ3LXPHZK09
    Will this not work? I bought this damn MFLB thinking this would work.
    I figured another $20 which I am good with.


    Does this power inverter not provide enough energy to charge 4 AA batteries. It has good reviews. dOes this thing not work with battery chargers?
    I am ready to just say fuck it and plan on smoking my pipe while out in the kayak. this pos mflb came with a car adapter. Is that not going to work either?

    I was thinking of this yesterday. I am glad I don't have an etched lid and wouldn't want one. I have to be able to see in there and align my herbs. I have to bang my mflb hard on the table or something to loosen the herbs and shake it real good, otherwise they will stay stuck in the corner cracks. The upper sides of my trench are a bit concave and herbs get stuck up there so I have to jiggle them into place. No way on the etching blocking my view. I also like to see how brown they are. I can pretty much tap the mflb lightly against something or tap it with my fingers but after I do that I like a visual check before my next draw.
     
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  25. kimura

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    lol this guy

    It's like you are threatening to combust if people don't provide a cheap and fast way for you to charge your batteries using your car. By all means, blaze away. Nobody cares

    Here is a golden lesson I learned from years of modding cars for power: fast, cheap, and reliable. Pick two. You just can't have all three.
     

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