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The Magic-Flight Box

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. Grim Chiclets

    Grim Chiclets Well-Known Member

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    Is there no way anyone has found to DIY a power adapter without having to make more than a fairly simple circuit? Though I haven't been able to test my box yet, I'm fairly certain that an older battery like the one i have may make the learning curve extremely difficult (read: "fuck this")
    Buying new batteries or a PA is out of the question- I can't even medicate most of the time due to lack of funds
     
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  2. vaporlee

    vaporlee Member

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    Same problem here... Stock batteries suck!
    But 75 dollar for PA... seriously? Just for the accessories?:shrug:Rather spend 15 dollar more and get unfinished Firewood 2.1 :clap: (No need accessories and good to go straight out of the box:tup:) + its easier stronger and also convection!:leaf:
     
  3. Grim Chiclets

    Grim Chiclets Well-Known Member

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    Yeah if I was trying to pimp this thing out, I'd just scrap the whole idea and buy a Vap2.. I'm just looking for an excuse to enjoy my free LB :p
     
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  4. RUDE BOY

    RUDE BOY Space is the Place

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    The stock batteries don't suck IMHO.

    a pair of the stock batteries will give me a good five trenches and I own more then one pair ... so say three pairs get me through most days ... not all that unreasonable is it ?
     
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  5. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    Stock batteries are great!
     
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  6. vaporlee

    vaporlee Member

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    I also had 2 pairs of MF batteries, but after several recharge, the capacity of the battery seems reduced dramatically(within only 2~3 recharges from new), and much weaker to produce vapor compare to when they were new. And of course there is PA but its too expensive for just another accessory for me.

    Tried real hard to like my MFLB, but... I just...
    I will give another go for few more days before I put up on ebay. (had for 5 months:wave:)
    Thanks!

    Maybe it's just my MFLB.. or batteries..
    Maybe I did something wrong.. :doh:
    I am very upset as I couldn't experience same MFLB as you guys ...

    Very sorrowful really...:cry:
     
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  7. Grim Chiclets

    Grim Chiclets Well-Known Member

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    From what I've read, the batteries aren't supposed to be around for more than a year- it's just how they are.. I could be wrong- I'm sure one of the countless vets around can clear up any issues in methods for charging and using the batteries. (I also remember hearing you should try not to charge them longer than the max charge like.. at ALL)
     
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  8. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. "The best battery available for he job".........or they'd no doubt change to that better battery?

    You'd expect nothing less from MF, would you?

    For sure this (or any other) vape is not going to be for everyone. But I too think the humble box is often overlooked/not given a fair chance by owners who (quite naturally) want it to do what they want as opposed to what it was designed to do. A key point, I think, is that while the little guy isn't likely to change many owners do? Many have come back and found new advantage to their everlasting delight.

    IMO it's a great vape, one serious vapist should give due consideration to. The 'fit' can be very nice.

    OF
     
  9. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I used to think my batteries sucked but then I got a new MFLB and realized my old got nowhere near hot as quickly. In order to do my technique I had to wait 4 seconds for vapor to start forming, now I can just use the MFLB as soon as I press the button.

    Would only get about 1 trench per battery from my three year old MFLB with a Powerex 2700. Same battery on a new box provides what RUDE stated.
     
  10. New_World

    New_World Cuck Fombustion

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    vaporlee, give it some time.
    put the launch box away and come back to it later.

    I promise you its technique..........it took me a long time vape correctly.....and no one told me or helped me so I was doing it wrong for a long while.

    I "pulse" the battery on and off and I pay attention to the taste/heat.
    that it was helped me most.
    understading how this vape works also helped me...i read about it online...........then something just clicked after that.

    I see so many people not pulsing their batteries.
    its vaping not combusting....I just think pulsing the batts on this vape is essential IMO.
    ymmv


    thats just my technique.......you might find something that works better for YOU.
    don't give up vaporlee!!
     
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  11. poonman

    poonman Well-Known Member

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    I had the same problems with my 1st mflb .
    The batteries and the charger failed on me soon after purchase .
    But I bought mine at a LHS and who knows how long the batteries sat on the shelf . Let's be honest , their chargers are just less expensive generic units . So I got an Energizer charger and new batts , problem solved .

    You've said the LB is 5 months old . Have you ever cleaned it , your trench
    especially . That WILL impede your success with getting vapors . I'm only
    guessing , you've experienced combustion in your LB . Which will stain
    your trench and should be cleaned .

    To attain big clouds , I always like the ' micro-hits ' method . It works for me

    btw , my earlier posts in this thread are still there . ( I think ) I said EXACTLY the same thing as you did , basically . And since I received
    help from other members to enjoy my LB , I want to return the favor
    or ( Flavor ) .

    This is How Great a company MF are .
    If your trench is faulty and Not allowing you to enjoy you're full vaping experience as intended . They should/will replace it . ime
     
  12. vaporlee

    vaporlee Member

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    I really appreciate your help! It sound more likely to me than just disagree with my experience without any help or guidance like few others..

    I have cleaned my MFLB every month or two with ISO and cotton bud.
    I have also bought second pair of MF battery and Intellicharger i4 (cost me 20 pounds:cry:) for better performance.

    I also have seen from youtube how people use there MFLB.
    I also tried how 'Vape Critic' uses his MFLB, but I can't hold my battery for that long, it obviously combust.(7~8 secs and inhale)

    What I have experienced for 5 months so far, is when I hold battery for more than just 4~5 secs it combust! So what I have figured out was to shake every 3~4 sec to prevent any combustion. And also after several use the battery seems weaker to create any visible vapor(after charging).. Shake every 3 second is very tiring and I just don't feel that the vaporizer at this price should perform by itself or with only little handling. (Like many others)

    I also spoken to MFLB about this and they just sent me another way to not combust..:bang:
    So I know this is the little fight that I have to go through by my self as others are extremely happy about there LB.
    I hate being isolated, so I might just listen to you and try purchase new LB again. (Better work this time..)

    Btw is there any difference between Maple, Cherry and Walnut? (such as taste or smell of the wood):shrug:
     
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  13. $unnyblaq

    $unnyblaq Well-Known Member

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    Epicness is the only real difference :nod:
     
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  14. New_World

    New_World Cuck Fombustion

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    instead of another launch box get something thats easier to use.
    or maybe the MFLB just isn't for you?
    not everyone loves the launch box....I'm fine with that....we all like different things.

    check out the arizer solo.
    also for a home unit maybe a bag unit like the Extreme Q or Volcano.
    those are pretty simple fool proof units so you can stop being frustrated with your vaping experiences for the time being.
    we want to keep you around and save your lungs and health.
     
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  15. vaporlee

    vaporlee Member

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    Have Volcano, Vivape, Vivap2, E-Nano, Firefly, Pax, Indica, Hammer, Wispr 2, MFLB, Firewood 2.1 and 2 Arizer Solos. The problem is LB is only the one who let me down..:doh:

    I Just decide not to give up on LB yesterday, as I also want to feel same with many others. And also I prefer to listen to others advices. So will give another go!:rockon:
     
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  16. New_World

    New_World Cuck Fombustion

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    **pulse the batteries.
    don't push in the batteries whole time you are drawing.
    once your batteries are getting low.......then you can't let off the battery as much.
    if you taste some flavor let off the battery for a second and continue drawing, then press the battery back on.
    I keep doing that and do long draws.

    also try packing a smaller amount in your trench.
    many overfill the trench on the MFLB....and its just not designed for that IMHO.

    just trying to help......i hope I succeeded.
     
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  17. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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  18. poonman

    poonman Well-Known Member

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    You have quite the collection of vapes already .
    From your previous post , I'd gather this much .
    The ' shaking ' is what off-sets your timing .
    I forgot to mention , I Always use mine with their 1 ft whip .
    That allows me to ' shake n bake ' and to ' watch ' the progress of my trench avoiding combustion ....
     
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  19. kittyboy

    kittyboy Well-Known Member

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    I just tried to use a new MFLB and something wrong as batteries will not work. I have the good batteries they suggest and they work in my old (5years) MFLB so I am not sure what the problem is. Maybe not making a good connection on the back wire as I took out the washer that helps disengage battery thinking it was that. Is there a way to make the wire connection tighter at rear of battery??
     
  20. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    Gotta wiggle it and remember where itengages.
     
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  21. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    There is no 'make it tighter' on the back connection, the wire is the stop the battery should rest on without the washer. If it isn't check the wood around the cut for the ring. Look for shiny spots on the wood and battery where it might be binding. Otherwise look at the ring and make sure it's just not too tight (they do loosen up over time).

    Is there a difference mechanically between your batteries?

    OF
     
  22. caves

    caves Living the vape life

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    Just busted out a magnifying glass to inspect a bit of silver showing on one of my rails, and it looks like I have a bit of micro-tearing of the screen going on. It's not a big deal right now, but I'm worried that it might get worse in the future and leave me vape-less while getting it replaced. Do you guys think I should contact MFLB now or when it actually starts causing problems?
     
  23. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    That's your call really. If it truly is damaged, I think Magic Flight would honor the warranty. I guess it depends on how bad the tear is at this point.
     
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  24. KidFated.

    KidFated. Good Things Come To Those Who Chill

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    I agree, I would worry about it other than not using a brush anymore, just blow into it. If it starts to become a problem warranty is always there! :peace:
     
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  25. kittyboy

    kittyboy Well-Known Member

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    I meant the ring on the outside of box not connecting possibly. I am pretty sure with washer removed I am connecting to the main Wire but with no power at all coming through I feel it has to be a connector making the loop etc.
    Is there a way to make the outside connector tight?
    Thanks
     

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