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Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by magicflight, May 16, 2009.

  1. mystikalghost

    mystikalghost Well-Known Member

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    SHIT SON. 900 degrees look at that fucking milk. They have clearly been working on this thing for a while now. Fuck. I am going to buy this in 2014 I can just tell.
     
  2. axakal

    axakal Well-Known Member

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    is it confirmed? the treated version is a little to gimmicky looking for my taste. i'm also curious, how they made it black. can't imagine it's just simple paint.

     
  3. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    Not directly confirmed yet unless Buildozer was told it was the one. I haven't heard about any other options for it.
     
  4. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    No. Not confirmed at all. Just my guess. Nothing more.

    :peace:
     
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  5. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Edited my post on page 903.

     
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  6. mystikalghost

    mystikalghost Well-Known Member

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    The first time the MFLB really blew me away was when I went in to a restaurant bathroom and took a hit. Of course this thing is load as you go...but still. It just looks sooooooo promising. Price is going to be the make or break for a lot of people...
     
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  7. vii

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    Can you do flowers with the new box? Or is just for concentrate ? 50 -70 trenches for one battery is impressive compare to 2-3 with the old box.
     
  8. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Just full melt concentrates.

    :peace:
     
  9. mystikalghost

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    Posted this on reddit a few times. I think this is a game changer for the portable vape market. 2014 is going to be sooooooooo gooooooooood. :mmmm::mmmm::mmmm::mmmm::mmmm::mmmm::mmmm::mmmm::mmmm:
     
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  10. Vicki

    Vicki The Bionic Woman

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    I also have the beta, but kinda like the steampunk better. :)
     
  11. mystikalghost

    mystikalghost Well-Known Member

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    Man...$170 without the power adapter is expensive. I understand that the selling point is that you don't need the PA...but still.

    Do we even know if the "first gen" MFLB PA works with this thing yet?
     
  12. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    They both work. You need to keep it on the low low end though. Less surface area = faster heating = less energy needed. It worked with the new PA as well. Worked just fine with a battery too, much better than the LB and a concentrate tray, but keep in mind this is meant for full melt concentrates. I haven't tried bubble hash in it or anything with a lot of plant matter.
     
  13. mystikalghost

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    Of course. I wouldn't use this with anything but full melt. I guess the PA isn't even really necessary. While $120 is currently expensive for a concentrate vaporizer...you get a LIFETIME warranty with it. And a whip...which didn't come with the MFLB. Plus that "case" is pretty damn nice also. Black and gold? Shit, look at my profile picture.
     
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  14. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    I found it convenient because like the concentrate trays you can preload it and just leave it with the lid closed. Hard to beat 2-3 seconds to vapor from total cold start.
     
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  15. mystikalghost

    mystikalghost Well-Known Member

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    This is something that I think should be a "necessity" with concentrate vapes...hell even all vapes. It should be easy to load and should stay loaded easily.
     
  16. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    My experience with the beta version has been a rapid resin build-up on the floor and walls of the interior. After only a couple of dabs, resin was already pooling in the little dimple beneath the screen. Since the LB is basically wood, I wrote to Magic-Flight about cleaning advice but I haven't gotten a response yet.

    This was the other concern that I expressed to them. With that screen there's a lot more temptation to poke things in there and I'm worried about damaging the tray. I realize Magic-Flight's legendary warranty will cover me if I break it but I assume that it's sturdier than it looks. I just don't want to test to destruction.
     
  17. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    I have what I think is this unit as well. It came as part of a confidential Beta Test package I didn't have much luck with personally, although the system seemed sound enough.

    That said, I think Pak has once again gone to the heart of the matter. Fouling will, I think, be an issue with some. We have guys putting grams per week through Ceras and Hercules carts, this little guy isn't up to that I think. As the small screen fouls up, there's no obvious way to clean it. For occasional use with high quality concentrates it might be fine, but a few dabs of nasty extracts could make a mess that defies clean up.

    Time will tell, but if this is what I think some guys may have their units in for service a LOT? Some guys treat their gear better than others, some just demand more.

    Edit: I just got the official notice from MF on this, before folks get too wound up it says on the front page "allowing you to vaporize liquid concentrates quicker and easier than before" (emphasis mine). This does not seem promising to those intent on kief, bubble, full melts and the like and may even indicate that shatters are a problem?

    It seems that the fancy 'steam punk' version is the real deal, wood dyed black (which should help hide the deposits). The lens, it seems, is a real (glass) lens, it magnifies?

    Release December 25.

    OF
     
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  18. Breathemetal

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    It's been a while so I busted out the MFLB this morning for my wake n vape!
    The damn VB2 just isn't cutting it anymore...subpar product imo, not powerful enough for me...and I can list more cons than pros...so back to the MFLB where my only con is sometimes its a bit harsh (but thats my own fault as i like high temps)

    Very excited about the MFCB...if only i had access to wax! ugh!
    Yeah yeah make my own...well i cant right now.

    Anyways, looks awesome! Ill definitely snag one up when i get back into waxes...well, when waxes get back into me i should say lol
     
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  19. davesmith

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    I'm personally really not keen on the asthetic design of the CB. Also being in the uk means getting decent LIQUID concentrates means making you own or knowing someone who does.

    Sad to find out the new products not for me. Oh well.
     
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  20. poonman

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    I like the fact that the screen heats up red hot so fast .
    It looks like the screen is adhered on from underneath .
    I want to know with what is it adhered with ? or if it's just snapped/hooked on to the rods ?

    If it's snapped on , it can be easily replaceable by user .
    Therefore bypassing the warranty process .

    I also would probably lined the bottom of the trench with foil , for easier cleaning and maintenance .

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    I assume it's the same kind of welding as the normal LB screen. Only issue is that it's only a little bit so it will be more fragile. I've poked at it some throughout my using it (CO2, reclaim, sap) and it's held so far.

    My only "issue" with it is that it seems that when I vape my CO2 oil the (glass) stem collects reclaim quite fast. It makes sense since that's the first unheated area it touches on the way to you, but I did notice more than usual. It works quite well otherwise. Oddly, I didn't get the buildup issue inside of the box like paka said.
     
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  22. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    The build-up probably is dependent on the concentrate used. I used the same concentrate in my FV and got the same quick build-up.

    This will be called the MD not the CB. Someone is a Frank Herbert fan: they've called it the Muad-Dib (from Modified Dab Box). Liquid concentrates are not easy to get for most of us. That's why the beta test kit included Kava, which is legal and is similar to BHO and CO2 in viscosity and method of vapourizing. By using Kava Magic-Flight could be sure that all beta testers had a suitable concentrate.
     
  23. OF

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    Swell, that's not what I got from it.....I got it as a test of the Kava (which I didn't care for). I never tried hash oil as that wasn't part of the instructions. Too bad. Sometimes you get the memo, sometimes not.

    As a device for vaporizing it was fine IMO. The dose of the Kava was, however, dinky. Totally different than the bulk of oil I foresee ending up in there. We'll be lucky not to have drips falling rather that dots you can't see except in strong light.

    If this is the same, then yes the screen is welded on the rods. I can't really see another way, the massive clips on Palm didn't seem to work all that well. The screen should last well under good conditions, but I bet a lot of them die by toothpick wielded by a user 'under the influence'......

    Time will tell, fun gadget.

    OF
     
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  24. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    Magic-Flight didn't send out any memo, I simply inferred the purpose of the Kava beta test. It struck me as odd that they would market a Kava-only box. Then I asked myself how could they ensure that all their beta testers would have something to test with.

    Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they got the feedback on the Kava and said, "Oh well, that won't fly (excuse pun), wonder what we can do with this thing now..."
     
  25. Buildozer

    Buildozer Well-Known Member

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    One day I accidentally smashed the screen all the way to the bottom of the box, twice, and my box is totally fine still... I'm sure I got lucky but IMO it's pretty flexible, and stronger than it seems.

    I haven't used the box for many concentrates.. But since you can access the mess to wipe it up, I would think it would have less of a fouling issue than a MFLB.. Maybe the reason for the black (paint? dye?) coating is to keep the oil from absorbing into the wood?? Have you been wiping it down, and still having odor issues? I would just use a Q-tip.:shrug: I don't know what else you could do.

    Considering how the screen can get glowing red, you can just do a burn off and carefully brush it off.. I haven't tried, but I would assume that Bubble is a no-no.. And it just sounds ridiculous to try and load Keif in something that tiny that can glow red hot.. I don't really see Shatters being much of an issue, regarding the screen.

    I personally enjoyed the Kava, but I would prefer to drink some.

    I totally forgot this thing was called the Maud-Dib.. that's probably gonna take me a little bit to get used to.
     

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