1. What does SSTB mean? See our glossary of acronyms.
    Dismiss Notice

The Arizer Air

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by pakalolo, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. ManFlies352

    ManFlies352 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    101
    Unfortunately my Airizer Air seems to be breaking slowly. It started with having the beeping sound completely disappear on startup. Now, it's not showing me the battery life left on the battery before heating up. It still heats up fine and all that, but it seems to be slowly breaking down. Awesome vape so hopefully it doesn't completely shit the bed on me anytime soon :(
     
    OF likes this.
  2. lookhigh

    lookhigh waiting for the click

    Messages:
    1,289
    Location:
    Mystcal land of Eire
    Beeb can be switched on or off, battery may need replacing or contacts cleaned.
     
  3. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,497
    Location:
    Left Coast
    I think I tend to agree this is a good (safe) plan in the general sense? That is if you use one lower in current it's sure to slow the charging rate more than the maker intended. At best, just slower, but more likely to get out of the power management profile he intended? He would not have supplied the higher capacity (more expensive) charger without reason?

    It's plenty safe to use a higher current (but correct voltage) charger, the unit is only going to use as much as it wants/needs in that case. The charging kluge I'm using right now has over 3 Amps available to those who want/can use it for that reason.

    I still think 'too slow' a charge is not good practice. I consider the 1 to 2 hour rate to be a good target compromise? One thing absolutely true is you should not 'trickle charge' Li-ions. In fact, internal charge circuits detect the lowering charge current and stop charging at 10% of maximum possible current. If you have a unit that's designed for 1 Amp charge it's automatically set up to stop at .1 Amp.

    As has been said, the beep is turned off and on easily and is often accidentally changed. Power it up, then hold the up button down for several seconds (not a quick push as you normally would). It should beep indicating it on. Doing the same turns it off and gives you silence as an indicator of that........... Confusing, perhaps, but that's how it works on Solo And Air.

    If the unit gives normal run time (say 3 or 4 sessions) it's not a battery or contact problem (the heater draws much more power, a problem there would crash the Air on heating). You can miss the indication I suppose, but I'm not clear on how this function could disappear. The software either turns the light on the required color, waits a bit, switches to blue and starts flashing or it doesn't 'move on' through the list?

    Anything could happen, but that one's a head scratcher........

    OF
     
  4. Jimiblues

    Jimiblues Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    After owning this for about 2 months I figured I give a little review. First off I want to thank this forum for the information, shout out to OF. When my firefly 1 broke for the 5th time and vapeworld offered me store credit I had the chance to buy the "newest" in vogue vape. But reading all the problems with these new vapes makes me glad I didn't go that route. I'm done with rma service times. Why charge 250 plus when there's problems with batteries overheating, seams in the oven, and devices hissing...no thanks ill stick with arizer. But mainly I was interested in durability and ease of maintenance. Other than one glitch the air works like a tank. I use it all day everyday. And cleaning isn't a chore, I actually look forward to cleaning the stem to get that honey. All in all the arizer has exceeded my expectations of a good reliable vape.
     
  5. MyKeyGee

    MyKeyGee MGT

    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    USA
    My 13 month old Air just, recently, has begun occasionally, Not Heating Up, as well. After switching ON the Top LED would illuminate, first indicating the state of battery charge, and then turn Blue, (as Normal, until I would select a different heat setting), but instead of it remaining steady, it would flash. The Bottom LED would not illuminate, (as it normally, would, and flash, when indicating that it was heating), until I would select, (either Up or Down), a heat selection, then it would illuminate, but remain steady, (not flashing as when normally, heating up), and the Air would not heat up.

    After checking battery, (fully charged), and removing / unscrewing the vented Top section, (not seeing anything else accessible to check out), I gave the Metal 'Bowl Cover' a few good, hard, flicks with my finger, (while switched on), the Air miraculously, began to operate normally; the Top LED was on steady, the Bottom LED began to flash, the Air began heating up and the Bottom LED stopped flashing and remained steady when the set temperature was apparently, reached, (it seemed to heat up as normal).

    So, just, some debris got through the tiny, holes in the bowl and causing a 'short' among the connections to and from the bowl and the circuitry, or is it a loose connection?

    I have experienced the same situation a couple of times since; removing / unscrewing the 'grille' and giving the 'bowl' a flick or two with my finger worked, again ... until today ... I found this Post here on FC: on this page: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-366, "Ah ... The inner self of Arizer Air ...Aka "how to cancel the guarantee."" .. by
    stardustsailor .. I disassembled as much as I could, I couldn't get the 'guts' up and out the top beyond the LEDs on the circuit board, seems there was a hang up at the Switch. .. anyway, I didn't see any, bare wires or the like. I wasn't able to figure out how to remove the steel bowl from the ceramic to see if there were loose wires. The Air, for some reason began to function normally, once again, so I replaced that plastic, like tape around the top of the 'guts' with Teflon tape, as stardustsailor suggested, and put the Air back together and hope for the best. .. so far so good.
     
  6. ManFlies352

    ManFlies352 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    101
    Thanks for your responses on what I thought was my Airizer Air breaking down! Had no idea you could turn the beep on and off. Popped in a new battery, turned the beep back on and everything works perfect. Still running strong :)
     
  7. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,497
    Location:
    Left Coast
    Great, thanks for the good word.

    Please remember your current gratitude when you get the bill.......and remember, tipping is allowed.

    Enjoy your Air, that is why you bought it, right?

    OF
     
  8. theherbpuffer1

    theherbpuffer1 New Member

    Messages:
    2
    I am excited to join the Arizer family! Waiting for my Air in the mail. The only other vape I've tried is the HA H2.2, which I have owned for 4 years. Anxious to have something to compare to. Any beginner advice would be appreciated!
     
  9. CalyxSmokr

    CalyxSmokr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    452
    fine grind. very dry. light pack
     
    OF likes this.
  10. lookhigh

    lookhigh waiting for the click

    Messages:
    1,289
    Location:
    Mystcal land of Eire
    Glad it worked

    Experimentation is the key, so many ways to use this vape. I dont grind and use stock stems and no screens.
     
  11. ManFlies352

    ManFlies352 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    101
    One more question for Air experts. I've had the Air for awhile now and have definitely loved it but my biggest complaint is I ALWAYS get Scooby snacks - nearly every hit - and it's annoying. Is there an upgraded stem people are using to avoid this?
     
    jpdnkstr likes this.
  12. FreddieFresh

    FreddieFresh Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    267
    A domed screen will solve the problem. You can get them on ebay or if you have some 14mm screens you can do it yourself
     
    jpdnkstr and OF like this.
  13. Faolan

    Faolan Active Member

    Messages:
    34
    Adding on to what others said, slow draw, the plastic stem works in 14mm bongs, you can get reclaim from the stems.
     
    OF likes this.
  14. Ghosts

    Ghosts Stoner Turk

    Messages:
    29
    Location:
    UK
    this might of been asked many times but...

    do you guys sip? what temps do you guys use? ive been on white/green for the head high manly
     
  15. Madcap79

    Madcap79 Jack of all trades, master of none.

    Messages:
    2,426
    Location:
    STLish
    Having a little fun with my Air tonight. Bubbler rips! Good times! Cheers!!:cheers:


    Click to play YouTube Video
     
  16. SiDankies

    SiDankies Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    609
    Question. If my battery has a tiny cut in the wrapper is it ok to still use regularly? I found my battery on the floor and off the charger so I assume my cat has something to do with it lol.
     
  17. sickmanfraud

    sickmanfraud Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,026
    I had a battery in similar condition. Then I took that battery put it in 18650 box with a stem and screen. The screen came out of the stem and then caused the battery to arch.

    Bottom line, you can buy re-wrapping supplies on the internet and for a few pennies you can be safe.
     
    OF likes this.
  18. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,497
    Location:
    Left Coast
    I agree completely. It should be OK, at least for now........but consider the downside? "Not worth the risk" IMO.

    Are you in the US? If so PM me and I'll mail you a couple of replacement jackets to play with. A hair dryer is usually enough, careful work with a lighter always does when it comes to shrinking them on.

    PM me and let's get it fixed properly? No need to risk drama.

    I agree, the cat's prolly guilty. Take claw prints and see.

    OF
     
    CarolKing, Faolan, lookhigh and 4 others like this.
  19. TomC1315

    TomC1315 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    110
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/15x-Tobacco...mm-1-4-x1-2-/201702712818?hash=item2ef66b25f2

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Once the bowl gets a little bit of build-up in it, the screens stay in place ... in fact, when I soak the stems in iso, I keep the bowl out of it to maintain the build -up.

    [​IMG]

    With a light pack, the screen stays clean for quite a while.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2017
  20. TwistedGray

    TwistedGray Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    440
    Scoured the web, did some searching here, but couldn't find my answer. I think my battery is finally to the point of no return?

    When I plug it into the charger, I'll get a blinking green light on the lower LED. This is normal of course; however, it will soon change to a red blinking light.

    I cannot find a clear answer to what this means, but I am pretty sure it is not charging.

    Anyone else run into a similar situation? This is after about one year of use (slightly less) on the same battery.
     
    OF likes this.
  21. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,497
    Location:
    Left Coast
    I don't recall this, but perhaps someone else will? One thing I think is safe to assume is flashing red is not good.....

    I assume the base problem is the battery no longer makes vapor? From an owner POV it's one of three parts: Battery, unit or charger. Yes, put the charger on the list.

    Substitution is the best troubleshooting tool generally, and specifically here. Having 'known good' examples of those 3 parts (say from a working set) you can quickly determine which is the issue. Standard drill, but you need the parts for substitution. Or you have to buy them......

    Assuming you have no resources (USB cable, standalone charger, other 18650) the logical first pass is the battery (technically a cell since there's only one, FWIW). But this is probably the least likely unless you've left out a valuable clue: Li-ions generally don't die outright without warning, they get weaker and weaker. It the number of sessions per charge has been degrading, my money's on the 18650. Otherwise it's the logical place to start and IMO it's a good plan to have a backup one (charged to about 75%) anyway for a number of reasons aside from the obvious one in front of us.

    Does it run at all? That is can you 'use while charging' at all?

    Secondly, on the list you're probably wishing you had all along is a USB cable (to eliminate the charger from the suspects). Handy to have and cheap, you might order one now as as well. These work:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQCMRJ6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

    There have been problems with similar ones, the metal isn't long enough and you have to slice a thin 'doughnut' of plastic off like here:
    [​IMG]

    Anyway, the third suspect, the unit itself, is identified by elimination, that one's a tougher nut. You can probably 'get by' on an external charger (?), but that seems lame somehow.

    Warranty is, of course, another route? Not to add to the retrospect regrets list, but if you'd bought it from Randy at PIU (and let him know you had a problem.....) you'd no doubt have the answer in the mail by now.

    Good luck with it, please let us know how it sorts out?

    OF
     
    lookhigh, Jimiblues, nihil and 2 others like this.
  22. newf2d2

    newf2d2 New Member

    Messages:
    3
    Hi all. First let me apologize as I am a complete newb to forums like this.

    Here's my story: I've had my air for 2 years. Using the stock battery and a OEM spare (purchased from their site) about a year ago. From what I've read here I have not been treating them as well as I could. I will often use them until completely drained though I never store them in that state. I have stored fully charged batteries for up to a week. I will sometimes session it a couple of times for its full cycle and then fully charge the battery again. All charging is done with the stock wall charger. I haven't noticed any performance issues and typically get 3 cycles on white and 2 on green before I charge the battery.

    I finally got a Nitecore D2 a couple of days ago. Drained one battery and partially drained the other. Used the D2 yesterday to fully charge both and when I popped one in the Air would not turn on at all. Same for the other battery.The only thing that happens is when I plug it in the top LED will illuminate red, go out and then the bottom one illuminates red and also goes out. I have been in contact with Arizer and I'm troubleshooting as per there instructions. I have left it plugged in for 3 hours and sometimes the bottom light will illuminate green but it still won't power on. The green light will change to yellow and then go out as well.

    I cannot follow Arizer's troubleshooting instructions completely since I don't know anyone else who has an Air so I can't try their battery or their charger.

    Questions: Anybody here encounter similar issues? I tried to search the forums but nothing came back similar to my issue.
    I have validated the Nitecore through their website. I purchased it from Amazon but I don't know if it's the most current model. There are no error messages when I charge the batteries with the D2. Does anyone think that the charger or batteries are the issue? Could the D2 have damaged the batteries so that the connection isn't solid when inserted into the Air?
    Thoughts? and thanks for reading!

    PS I friggin love this thing. Definitely helped me stay off cigs. Had a funny issue in the first year where it wouldn't stay on for a full cycle but it magically fixed itself after I did a couple of resets.

    What a tricky little dicky the Air is. After typing this up I decided to go check on it. Took out the original battery and popped in the second OEM I purchased and it works. Testing now to see if it stays on for a full cycle ;););).
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 18, 2017
    lookhigh, nihil, sickmanfraud and 2 others like this.
  23. Jimiblues

    Jimiblues Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    My guess is that the contacts were slightly dirty? The two red lights come on when the adapter is in and there's no battery in the air. Maybe the air air didn't recognize the battery anymore or it went belly up. I had a similar issue and the air corrected itself. Thank god for the arizer..the only vape that fixes itself lol
     
  24. newf2d2

    newf2d2 New Member

    Messages:
    3
    I did try both batteries last night and had the same 2 red lights experience. It's things like this that make me believe there's a higher power controlling tech; like the gremlins pilots talked about in WW1
     
  25. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,497
    Location:
    Left Coast
    Glad to hear you're on track and (hopefully) will be enjoying your Air again soon.

    You've just discovered the sage 'first question of troubleshooting' which is, of course, "What was the last thing you did before the lights went out?". In this case I suggest it was trying the new charger?

    Anyway, congrats, and welcome to the Forum. Lots of good folks, hope you can stick around and enjoy the company. Just don't let @ataxian near your glass (inside joke, hang around and find out?).

    Regards,

    OF
     
    ataxian likes this.

Support FC, visit our trusted friends and sponsors