Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils
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how is that metallic taste normal??? and if you think im about to load my cart with some pure gold KNOWING that it has metallic taste, you sir are crazy. i dont give a flying f*** if 'other people' are not bothered by the residual metallic taste that doesnt seem to go away... i dont feel the need to 'mask' that taste with my oils... that metallic taste should not be there PERIOD. ive already had a bad spell of nausea because of that taste, and that me makes me weary of this product.
and i believe im using a 2.4 cart (the one that came with the v2). so if this 2.4 is tasting this bad, i dont even want to imagine how metallic the 1.5s taste
@THC can you send me a replacement cart cuz this chemical/metallic taste is not acceptable.
havealight101
Norski
2.4, hmmm. Thats about the only cart that hasn't had taste issues(except for bad batch around Nov). Your not overdriving it w/ a vv mod are ya? The issue of taste has been beaten to death(witch is understandable), there is a lot of info on it through out Thc's threads. But, I would fill out a ticket on D9v.com, they should take care of you.
tharealmclovin
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He means it is normal for a little metal taste because ITS MADE OF F-ING METAL. Load it up get the oil in the right spot and everything will be fine. If THC sends you a new cart its gonna taste the same, once again, ITS MADE OF F-ING METAL.
and you are not supposed to be hitting it dry.
OF
Well-Known Member
It's my understanding that THC will replace any unused carts (no concentrate), I'd make connection with them and send it in if you've a mind to.
However, I'm a little concerned your standards are awfully high. Perhaps too high for this product line? Even the best cart in town might not measure up and if they do send you the best available, sooner or later you're going to need more......
These things are pretty subjective, but if you're honestly getting "a bad spell of nausea" that's way more than most guys report, I just don't think this is the vape for you?
Good points, there's strong objection and rejection of advice going on. I don't think folks are saying what wants to be heard?
OF
havealight101
Norski
Never mind, I guess it sounds like you never put PG in there yet. The flavor you are tasting while dryfire/pull, is Normal, if you do it a few times(like pre-oxing)with cooling time, you'll notice the flavor simmers down. Don't knock it till ya tried it.... Fill'er up and enjoy.
OF
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That seems to be the consensus around on the point, but I don't think it's 'the right answer'? You know what they say, though, "when 3 guys in a row tell you you're drunk, it's time to sit down".
I'm afraid lingering doubts will get in the way of the OP's truly enjoying the machine so many of us find so neat and useful. The getting sick to my stomach part would sure get me to go elsewhere for fun. It happens like that sometimes. Lucky there are lots of options out there.
OF
i tried pre-oxidizing it a few times last night, and although the taste did seem to decrease a little over time, it was still too much. but then i tried it again this morning, and the taste of metal is still strong.
and yes, i do have high standards. i am medical student, soon to be physician. i believe in the medical value of cannabis, especially vaped instead of smoked. i have been a proud owner of my arizer extreme vape for a couple of years now, and i would have no problem recommending that product to anyone, even my future patients. but if this product has an overwhelming chemical/metallic taste, i cannot recommend this to anyone, because i feel apprehensive using it myself.
vaping is supposed to increase the safety profile of cannabis use, but with this chemical/metallic taste, i would argue that it is worse for you than 'smoking' out of a glass piece
and yes, i do have high standards. i am medical student, soon to be physician. i believe in the medical value of cannabis, especially vaped instead of smoked. i have been a proud owner of my arizer extreme vape for a couple of years now, and i would have no problem recommending that product to anyone, even my future patients. but if this product has an overwhelming chemical/metallic taste, i cannot recommend this to anyone, because i feel apprehensive using it myself.
vaping is supposed to increase the safety profile of cannabis use, but with this chemical/metallic taste, i would argue that it is worse for you than 'smoking' out of a glass piece
OF
Well-Known Member
While I agree with you fully on the first part, absent any PROOF of the second I see it as utter nonsense. We're not stupid you know.....
OF
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Couldn't find an answer on the vaporpedia,
but my V2 Omicron is completely not working.
Batteries freshly charged, using 4 different carts, and every single one of them produces 0 vapor and does not get warm at all (so the connection isn't being made whatsoever)
The blue light comes on just fine.
The port on the battery doesn't look dirty, but I've cleaned it with iso & Qtip and still no heat
Can't think of anything else I can do,
any ideas Omi experts?
but my V2 Omicron is completely not working.
Batteries freshly charged, using 4 different carts, and every single one of them produces 0 vapor and does not get warm at all (so the connection isn't being made whatsoever)
The blue light comes on just fine.
The port on the battery doesn't look dirty, but I've cleaned it with iso & Qtip and still no heat
Can't think of anything else I can do,
any ideas Omi experts?
OF
Well-Known Member
No, that subjective (as a Med student I'd have thought you'd know that too?), there is no proof in the conventional sense, only consensus. If you say it makes you nauseous, I'll take you at your word. It doesn't seem to do that to others was the point I made there. Or tried to. The proof I was looking for was to back up the idea that "it is worse for you than 'smoking' out of a glass piece". That we can quantify and test for......
Sorry I wasn't clear enough it seems.
OF
OF
Well-Known Member
The blue light comes on just fine.
The port on the battery doesn't look dirty, but I've cleaned it with iso & Qtip and still no heat
Can't think of anything else I can do,
any ideas Omi experts?
For sure I'm not an expert, but I try to understand things and think them through and would be glad to help if I can. This one's kind of a stumper isn't it? There's always a chance of four bad carts in a row, but that's probably up there with winning the lotto or meeting a polite person on the street these days.
OK, here's kind of a scary test to try. Short it out. I just tried it on mine to be sure, I used my house key down the connector where the cart screws in. Pushing the button gives 3 flashes then out if connections are 'right'. I'm thinking of the problem KT had where the center contact of his socket came adrift?
Can you try that?
TIA
OF
Edit: Sorry you're having trouble, but hang in there we might get it going again and you already know how sweet that would be? OF
havealight101
Norski
"the centercontact ofhis socketcame adrift?"
That was my initial thought. Hard to tell though, I would think.
A careful surgeon with a tweezers might be able to wigle it out a bit?(please don't try w/o confirmation)
That was my initial thought. Hard to tell though, I would think.
A careful surgeon with a tweezers might be able to wigle it out a bit?(please don't try w/o confirmation)
in the world of medicine (and in 'science' in general) you learn that very little is 'proven', and that you learn about side effects by what the patients describe. if patients complain of something causing nausea, you dont have to do any tests to confirm that it causes is nausea. and with the safety profile of 'smoked' cannabis being impeccable, you are pretty much forced to accept that any other method, which causes any side effect, is inherently more harmful to your body.
JoeKickass
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But nausea can be entirely self-induced, I've accidently taken a hit or two of that virgin taste too and it is kind of a gross light-oil flavor. But it's never made me feel sick. And most of the time I just-blunt hit it until it fades so it doesn't go in my lungs anyway...
Maybe the smell just grossed you out?
OF
Well-Known Member
I strongly disagree with the first idea. The very basis of science is repeatable proof by non ambiguous experiment. Peer reviewed research is the standard, "if it's not in your notebook, it never happened". Tough standards for proof, but that's why it's usually a few lifetimes between theory and law.
Report of nausea is real to the patient, but really proves nothing until the cause is isolated. I get sick to my stomach just thinking about a doctor visit, does than make the doctor toxic?
I think I said 'we're not stupid'? That was meant to convey I don't think you'll find anyone on FUCK COMBUSTION that thinks smoking is benign. Except perhaps you? That is, after all, why we are here 'on our own time'?
OF
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Understood everything up until "Pushing the button gives 3 flashes then out if connections are 'right'."
How did KT eventually get it resolved?
PM'd THC so I'll see if he has an official response on the situation.
(definitely not bad carts, I was using all 4 perfectly at a birthday party last night when all of a sudden it stopped heating up)
havealight101
Norski
Alright, dude "smoking cannibas" does a lot more than cause "nausea"(witch it actually does for some), haven't you ever seen "reefer madness", there "scientific" knowledge proves that people kill for it.
Seriously though, maybe OF was right, when he said its not for you, even though its sounds like it hasn't even been filled. Maybe hold on to your unit for the "universe". It just kind of seems you didn't like it before you bought it though. With PG, certainly your co-op had a demo of the unit, if not someone close?
On another note on taste, test cart #2 filled w/ some very nice NYSD, I didn't have to "bunk" any pulls. Instant prime, instant potent good flavor. Will do full report in Persei thread.
OF
Well-Known Member
Sorry to be too cryptic. Short the rascal out with something with one hand (like my house key down the socket, center pin to wall) then push the power button. The light should not come on, but flash 3 times then go out as long as the short is there (the connections to the short circuit are all making contact).
IIRC KT's unit had a hard failure in the center pin of the socket, I believe that's what's behind G running all over town stabbing brick walls and all.... A replacement was needed I think. In his case, the short would not have flashed the light. If the light flashes, you probably have something else going on?
OF
im not sure what you think medicine is about, there is absolutely no such thing as 'repeatable proof by non ambiguous experiments' in clinical medicine... NO SUCH THING. there are practically no LAWS in medicne, everything is 'theory' that is 'SUPPORTED' by research, nothing is ever proven. and i wasnt the only person complaining about that taste making them feel ill. and yes, i do feel that 'smoking' CANNABIS is relatively benign; i have not come across any lung diseases that are caused by smoking cannabis. if you think 'smoke' is 'smoke', regardless of the source, and assume that mj smoke is as bad cigg smoke, then you are very much confused.
JoeKickass
Well-Known Member
When I used to smoke (only mmj) I was always occasionally hacking up brown bits. Nothing with the omicron...
havealight101
Norski
SD, I think KT's escapade was documented in the "revolution" thread. Do a search for Kertong's posts in that thread, hopefully will get you there. IIRC, they pulled the pin out w/tweezers, though I maybe completely wrong. Either way, your under warranty and THC will right you ASAP, but if its just a pin pushed down, there has to be a way to get it up..they make viagra don't they?
Edit, never mind, too late, your in good hands w/OF.
Edit, never mind, too late, your in good hands w/OF.
OF
Well-Known Member
Give me a little credit, please? You were lecturing me on how science works, medicine is part of science so that make sense. What are 'clinical trials' all about? Why do we do long term demographic studies? I was always taught the idea was to search for patterns that repeat? Until the results are no longer ambiguous the study continues, right?
How are vaccines certified?
Others have commented and complained about the taste. You alone have the title of most offended. By far. You're the only one I recall even that close. Please trust me on this, you do stand out?
Again, you're welcome to believe whatever you wish. You can even express it, but I think it's fair to be asked to defend it. Please, identify a single other member who doesn't object to the effects of smoking?
I understand I'm asking a lot of tough questions, that's the idea. I also note you're not answering most of them (all?), but that's an answer in itself, isn't it?
I continue to think you'll be happier with another vape. And hope you do well in your studies......
Good point, Joe. For sure you're not alone. There's a few thousand members here who share that I think, I'm one for sure. That junk has to come out somehow, it's not absorbed......
But in a larger sense I'm not sure our experience is what's being sought. I'm pretty sure it's been dismissed? How do you read it?
OF
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Say what?