Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    The 7.4v allows you to run a 4 or 5 ohm cartridge on the omicron, and also gives you a mini tube to turn your Omicron into a Minicron.
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  2. silvercloud358 Active Member

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    Dr G ,is it correct to 'presume' that herb vaporization will occur via O-Phos utilizing 'Hercules' :-)
  3. jeedee New Member

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  4. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    Sorry ophos can not use Hercules.
  5. jeedee New Member

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    I've tried to order from delta9vapes but it says it wont ship to Canada

    Any other suggestions?
  6. captinchaos Im not that bad...

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    I have an HVD and i have noticed my button goes dim pretty quick. Has anyone else noticed that or is it me?
  7. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    What configuration are you using?
  8. captinchaos Im not that bad...

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  9. captinchaos Im not that bad...

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    3.7 long tube... sorry about that
  10. OF Well-Known Member

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    Sure, try Planet Vape, already in Canada and a strong supporter of D9 products and this forum. They've got a lot of my money already, I'm sure they'd like some of yours to go with it......

    Good luck.

    OF
  11. lockie Member

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    Sorry for asking all these noob questions! I'm guessing that having a higher omh cartridge would make it create more vapor but have a shorter duration of the cartridge life, right? So basically it uses more of the oil efficiently but will not last as long? Whats a Minicron for?
    Thanks for the fast responses by the way! :D
  12. jeedee New Member

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    Yeah already tried planetvape but theyre sold out

    Thanks anyways any other suggestions lol
  13. OF Well-Known Member

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    Not quite. At a give voltage lower resistance (less Ohms) means more current therefore more (not less) power. At 3.7 Volts 1.5 Ohms is much hotter than 2.4. The higher resistances are for use above 3.7 Volts.

    Hotter carts (and higher production) should not really effect cart life. They usually foul out if nothing else gets them after several grams, regardless of rate. Higher rates will of course mean less (bigger) hits per fill.

    Sold out of what? Mouthpieces? They're industry standard '510 drip tips' available from 'all the e-cig vendors':
    http://www.madvapes.com/pv-parts/dripper-tips.html
    http://www.smoktek.com/Drip-Tips_c_21.html
    http://www.avidvaper.com/categories/Drip-Tips/510-|-901-Drip-Tips/

    Or do a google search on 'drip tips'.

    Good luck.

    OF
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  14. jeedee New Member

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    Yeah I was basically looking for mouth pieces lol. Thanks OF!

    One more question, I'm looking for a filling tool with the gap at the bottom like this:

    PlanetVape has them...but no surprise they're out of stock aswell..

    [IMG]

    Thanks!
  15. OF Well-Known Member

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    Lucky guess.... You're welcome at any rate, good luck.

    The loading tool is a custom made part from D9, only D9 dealers are going to have it. But fear not, there's a cheap and easy 'work around'. Go to a big store that sells cake decorating equipment (in Kitchen wares usually, sometimes crafts stores). You want the 'number 10 tip' from Wilton:
    http://www.enasco.com/product/WA14088(F)H

    Under a buck, you can order them of course but shipping will be several times the cost......

    You also need a standard round wood toothpick (easy to steal at the local diner....). Poke the toothpick in the inner tube to plug it and keep stuff out and then use the stem of the toothpick to keep the cake tip centered and use the latter as the funnel. I prefer this guy to the factory unit because it's thin brass (plated) and therefore very responsive to heat changes in loading. This is the way we loaded carts in the dark days before the custom loading tool.

    Best wishes,

    OF
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  16. lockie Member

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    Thanks for the responses!
    I used the Black Friday coupon to get a HVD upgrade and 2 x5 3.0 ohm for 6.0v Extract Cartridges. haha I love this time of year, discounts on everything
    Now time for the Hercules... :)
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  17. CheeseSandwich Member

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    Thats exactly why I want it. I wanted a flower only cart solution. I like the 1.5s and 2.4s for oils anyhow.
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  18. rcflo Active Member

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    Yeah I've noticed it too the past couple months. The LED dims when you push the button with a cart on the unit. Not noticeable at night but during the day, it is. On top of that, i think its a direct relation to the power output of your batteries. The cart is probably getting ample current draw from the cell the whole time (obvi until low battery), it just no longer has that extra fresh charge, LED superglow.

    I've noticed with my AW 14500's, that when freshly charged, the LED dim is nonexistent, compared to a fresh charged 14650 (which shows a tiny bit of dimming off the bat), however the dimming comes around faster on the 14500's due to the slight difference in mAh.

    Also, this does not happen on the stock top, but you can put two and two together and realize why... carts getting regulated 3.7 volts as opposed to pulling everything the batteries got in her with the HVD, leaving the less important LED dim. No effect on cartridge performance.

    So, if anybody could chime in. I would imagine that the LED is regulated in the stock top, but on the same current path as the carts current draw in the HVD, leading to dimming as you pull a heavy load from these small batteries.

    my :2c:
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  19. OF Well-Known Member

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    Actually I think it is really indicating the falling output voltage. I measured the output voltage under load and found that the IMRs 'hold their voltage up' better, which is why the light doesn't dim as much. If you look close you can see it start out brighter and rapidly dim after a brief rest? That and the different performance of IMRs are both good clues even if you don't have a meter and test rig to make actual measurements.

    FWIW real world 'under load' outputs are lower than you might think.

    I think the 'sag' is real.

    OF
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  20. BlueLite New Member

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    Is there a different battery setup that would be better for running 7.4v HVD Omicron? Or are the included little blue ones as good as it gets?

    But don't get me wrong, vapor production is so much faster and more efficient now versus any cart i ever put on anything at 3.7v... this is just my experience though...
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    AFAIK those are the best batts. would love to hear otherwise. they have a tendency to burn out faster and more often than the rest so i stock up. probably have at least 10 in the house.
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  22. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    guys quick session with the 3.7v Hercules 8 minutes run time. But 2 -3 second pulls and it produces clouds. I was able to handle the Hercules without the heat ever bothering me. No BS no magic Just vapor.

    Will vape about .9 before you need to charge the battery, making it the most efficient one going on the market right now and for a while.

    Now i operated the hercules like a new person using it. Rode the button like no tomorrow with very little regulation.

    Also this is the second video the other one is about 7 minutes, so total time on the herc is 15 minutes, and i was still able to hold it. So heat is not an issue.

  23. Krazzykid Active Member

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    Hold on G, before you continue to claim to be the most efficient herb vape going on the market you may want to look into the Thermovape Cera. So far it is being reported to run for over 20 minutes being on the whole time and is still going strong. All from a single 18650 cell. Just saying
  24. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    hold on Krazzy.

    Our claims still stand.

    We are using a Generic IMR rated around 1000mah but is actually closer to 800mah.

    Now when you take into consideration we are doing a 14650 battery vs the 18650 battery in the model you mentioned and the fact that ours is 800mah vs the 2900mah the claim still stands.

    Now when you bring in the Big Boy Persei and mount a 18650 2900mah battery and run the Herc, your talking about almost 4 times the life as compared to the Omicron.

    So taking conservative measurements of lets say .7 per 14650 battery before it needs to be recharged, and multiplying that by lets say 3.7 times, you get about 2.6 grams vaped on a single charge of a 18650 on the Persei. Now if you want to get into details. From what OF stated the bowl on the said model takes about .15 the same size as the previous model and the new model is only 500% better on battery life. That would bring the total number to .75 vaped before a recharge is needed.


    Even our 14650 800mah does about .7 - .9 before it needs to be recharged.

    So yes my math how crazy as it seams is correct. The most efficient. Well if you want to get technical the most efficient none glass portable vaporizer. Since the Bender can do almost 2 - 3 grams on a 700mah battery
  25. OF Well-Known Member

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    Not much of a surprise there, really. Hercules is running like 30 Watts, Cera 12. You'd naturally expect close to three times the run time I'd think?

    The real jaw dropper is the new Vapor Blunt. I didn't have time to check capacity as it takes so very long to exhaust the battery pack (two 18650s). It looks to me like we're talking 10 or 12 sessions of 12 minutes each. Yes, two hours? Even at a modest 1/8 gram a bowl and going full sessions that well over a gram per charge.

    Past some point (probably different for each guy) enough battery is enough and carrying around more makes no sense. I also think being able to swap in a charged battery is a huge plus when lots of sessions are the call. You have to stop to put more goods in it, might as well change the battery at the same 'pit stop' from time to time.

    OF

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