Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. VAPORIZER22 Well-Known Member

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    Will these tops be for sale once they become available?
  2. Bodhi Diesel Cannabis Snob

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    Sorry if this has been answered already. Can you use the WF-188 to charge the 14250 batteries with the HVD supplied spacers???

    Thanks in advance.
  3. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    the New tops will not be available for purchase only when you need to send it in for repair's will it be given an upgrade.

    Wf 188 will charge the 14250 at 300mah setting really good, you just might need a few extra spacers.
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  4. Musicalfungus New Member

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    Any ETA one when we can place an order for a colored HVD??? Im dying to vape at 7.4volts but cant afford a Persei
  5. El del New Member

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    I bought a gpen. I dont like it so im looking to use the battery and convert it for omicron parts. Anyone have experience with this?? I'd like any help I can get as i am new to the portable vape situation.
  6. OF Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear about it, but I think you're on the path to recovery. You want a few 2.4 Omicron carts, the loading tool and one of these thread adapters I think:
    http://www.tropicalvapors.com/Adapt...artomizer-Omicron-Super-Nova-Smoore_p_68.html

    There are a few e-cig pens that don't need the adapter, but I think they all come from Atmos? If I'm lying again, NDA or someone will straighten it out for us toot sweet.

    Good luck. BTW go with the thickest, lightest colored concentrate in the dispensary. Super melts (not full melt), clear oil or wax. You want stuff that evaporates cleanly off a piece of foil with a lighter so it won't foul the cart too quickly. Weigh it when you start (empty), put no more than .5 grams in and refill when it gets to about .2 grams of empty weight and you should be in tall cotton.

    OF
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  7. Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    what he said :)
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  8. El del New Member

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    Wen you say 'carts' -- what do you mean? I need links to all compatible pieces i would need, please. I have no clue what to do.

    Ps. At the moment i am using pure gold oil (not sure what category of oil it falls into).
  9. OF Well-Known Member

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    This is easy, just send me all your money. If you need something, I'll send it to you......

    OK you can buy the carts from the maker or my favorite dealer (amongst others...), Planet Vape:
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=1-Extract-Cartridge-2.4-ohm-for-3.7v
    http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizer-extract-cartridge-single.html

    They're a little cheaper by the box of five, be sure you get 2.4 Ohms.

    Delta 9 sells fill tools 3 at a time (?), PV one at a time:
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=Fill-Tool-3pk
    http://www.planetvape.ca/cartridge-fill-tool.html

    You'll also need a lighter and some oil, of course. Fill instructions are here:
    http://www.delta9vapes.com/pdf/Omicron_Fill_Instructions_v3.pdf

    Carts can die without warning (or start leaking...) so it's good to have a few spares around. Each is good for several grams (depends on concentrate quality).

    Don't worry about PV being in Canada, great outfit, fast, cheap shipping, strong supporters of this forum.

    "Come on in, the water's fine".

    OF
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  10. Pipes If I agree, does that make us both wrong?

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    Hey OF, been thinking of taking this plunge myself. Want 3.7 volt 510 thread compatibility.
    I assume pretty much as above however, if the concentrate is not that clean but rather dark ABS ISO wash, would you still go 2.4 ohm or maybe go to 1.5 ohm? Any other thoughts for lower grade oils?
    Thanks,
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  11. El del New Member

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    Thank you. Last question: what mouthpiece do i use?? Can i use my gpen one?
  12. OF Well-Known Member

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    Good question, I tried it in fact. It kinda backfired on me, spit some nasty hot oil into my mouth in fact. I did get some good vapor but it ended up leaking quickly. I drained it back out and put it in a 2.4 and suffered through. It stalled out part way into the second gram so I fed the rest of it to my Revolution. Tasty SD oil but lots of extra junk in it I guess.

    I've had some lower grade oils that worked great and had a couple of 'can't miss' $50 grams recommended by bud tenders crash and burn. One 'taffy' fouled two carts in a few tenths (I couldn't believe it so I wrecked another cart....). Price is no real indication. Light color, firmer nature and (most of all) clean evaporation seem to be the best clues. I've also found high percentage THC concentrates work better (I assume because there's less 'other stuff' in there?).

    Any one you want. They're standard size "drip tips" in the trade. However, Omicron carts come with some very nice soft ones that work very well. I think most of us use them?

    OF
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  13. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    Has this happened to you lately?

    I think the 1701's are almost done and should fix all issues with the current design.
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  14. OF Well-Known Member

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    Has what happened to me lately? I covered several topics......

    If the question is have I repeated the experiment expecting different results, there's a name for that.

    I'm hopeful about future products (usually am), but have to base things on what's available and known? FWIW I'm a little leery that all the ills of low grade concentrates can 'be fixed' with an improved cart? We shall see.

    While I'm OK with the current carts, better would of course be better.

    OF
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  15. THC SCIENTIFIC The Guy Who Created It All.

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    Well since you dont sleep and to the rumors i might be a alien might as well carry this convo on now.

    The leaking and carts dying premature? Is that still going on with you?
  16. OF Well-Known Member

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    As long as I stay away from thin oils (and PG) they do fine for me. I'm a big fan of standard carts (2.4 Ohms) and find they work just fine if you don't push them. Good concentrates and good techniques are the keys I think. More tolerant designs would be nicer, of course, but I personally can live with the current ones.

    FWIW I also wrecked one with some hard shatter I had, I tried 1.5 Ohms instead, that as might be predicted also didn't fare well. While enough heat got vapor finally the leaks were a fright to clean up. I gave up on it.

    OF
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  17. OF Well-Known Member

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    Gentle friends, a new topic if I may? Pre-Oxidizing Carts. The wiki page has this to say on the topic:

    "Pre-Oxidizing Cartridges

    If you draw on the cartridge while dry you wont get the most pleasent odor or taste. It taste somewhat like machine oil. Its likely manufacturing residue and the ni-chrome heater wire oxiding. This smell and flavor typically dissipates quickly once the cartridge is loaded. THC scientific is evolving their cartridge manufacturing process to include some extra wash steps and a step to pre-oxidize the heating element. A user at home can also pre-oxidize the heater with the following procedure.
    • Press Button for 3 seconds with dry cartridge.
    • Allow to cool down for 20 seconds
    • Repeat process 5-10 times
    If you continue to have flavor issues or concerns please open a ticket with THC Scientific."

    I'm of the opinion this is 'old news'. It clearly says to do this every time. I suggest taste issues are largely a thing of the past, this scheme didn't always cure it, and guys are wrecking brand new carts after following these directions (some better than others). I think it should be removed.

    Thoughts anyone? Is it useless/dangerous dry burn or essential ritual? Something between?

    TIA

    OF
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  18. MaxVapor The Professor

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    FWIW I have loaded about 15 carts (which I know is small potatoes compared to many here) all 2.4's and never came across a taste issue. I used to check once for the red glow, but lately I have not even been doing that as it is also recommended not to dry fire them. I have not gotten a bad one yet, but I am a small sample.
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  19. kindbeats Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Unfortunately, I have had a taste issue in all but one cart and the pre-oxidizing method recommended never did a thing to remedy the situation. That's why I'm waiting for the Hercules carts to use my Persei for oil.
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  20. NoName Well-Known Member

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    My experience is also limited to 2.4ohm carts (approx. 20 total). I only pre-oxidized twice due to taste issues, but that was with the first(?) generation carts that had no 'labeling' on the sides (I finally discarded the few remaining unlabeled carts due to the unpleasant flavor and leaking issues). However, I've not had any flavor/leakage problems with labeled 2.4ohm carts (fortunately)-all purchased since this past July.

    As far as my 'cart pre-test', I've limited that to a simple cart resistance check-seems to be working so far. My vote is with OF. I think a cart pre-burn will create more problems in the long run. Just my opinion though.

    NoName
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  21. kindbeats Well-Known Member

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    Looking forward to the Iris and its built in meter. :)
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  22. jpdnkstr Active Member

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    My vote is to remove the pre oxidation information...... not good for cart life, I've had no taste issues since March. I have loaded all resistance carts with the exception of 3 Ohm. FWIW I love 1.5.on 3.7V and 5Ohm on 7.4V......... but please take OF's advice on starting at 2.4Ohm on 3.7v. It took quite awhile to master the higher power configurations.
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  23. A.M. Oil Monster

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    Howdy FC, im new here but not new to vaping;) I have a couple questions regarding the Omicron V2. I originally purchased mine off of Ebay (yup im that dummy lol) and after 2 days of use the top burned out. I was just vaping along when all of a sudden a small tuft of smoke came out of the threaded are on the top and the LED light started to flicker. Well it hasn't worked since. Now me being me, im not one to give up:), I decided to actually research the Omicron V2 and found that they offer the HVD topas an upgrade for my vape. My questions are #1 What do I need to know so I don't destroy the new 5ohm carts I bought with the top? #2 When my BHO is heated it has a similar consistency to water, will the 5ohm cart leak? And can I prevent it? #3 Will the Hammer option be compatible with the HVD top? #4 What will the hits be like compared to my TI nail with dome and the 5ohm cart with 7.4v?

    If these questions have been answered elsewhere I apologize, there are almost 400 pages to search through here lol. Thanks in advance A.M.
  24. Bob Loblaw Astralnaut

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    #1 read the vaporpedia articles for both the persei and omicron.
    #2 it shouldn't, all oil turns to full liquid when heated. what is it like at room temp?
    #3 not in the near future. a plug in option is being worked on and that would be necessary.
    #4 higher volt and ohm doesn't give bigger hit. common misconception. HVD's biggest use is as a stealth option, not really that useful as a mini persei, imho.


    if you don't want to get the warranty upgrade you can just get a new v2.5 top for $10 from D9. that's probably your best bet. good luck!
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  25. VAPORIZER22 Well-Known Member

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    Are the v2.5 tops still for sale Bob? I tried searching for them the other day to order one but could not find them. PV has them listed, but they are out of stock.
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