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Magical Butter

Discussion in 'Cooking with Cannabis' started by mmenzie, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. blueangel

    blueangel New Member

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    Hi, I was wondering if you ever tied putting your butter and sludge back in and using the 220 setting. I am doing this right now. I made my first batch ever of coconut oil and it was week compared to doing it in the crock pot.

    Hi, I am new here. I was wondering if in the coconut oil you run it 1 hour at 220 and then run it again at 160?

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  2. macbill

    macbill Gregarious Misanthrope

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  3. crazferret

    crazferret Active Member

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    I've not tried that. Let me know how it turns out. I did save my sludge. I froze it and broke it up. I've been adding it to this and that since making the oil. Pretty potent stuff.
     
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  4. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict

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    Our member, @Vitolo feels the same way. I'm wondering if this could be because of doing your decarb in the machine. Many of the Magical Butter United group use the oven for their decarb rather than using the machine. Because of the heat up and cool down times during your cycle, you are not getting a full hour of decarb at 220 degrees. Of course, when you decarb in the oven, you usually only put it in for around 30 minutes so this shouldn't matter. But.... :shrug:
     
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  5. Vitolo

    Vitolo Vaporist

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    My butter is decarbing in liquid state for 12 hours as it is cooking.. with the solid matter losing it's essentials to the butter.
    It is clarified for additional time, which is now just the ingredients without pulp, at appropriate temperatures.
    I do not use any helpers... lecithin etc.
    We each have a style.
    One batch of butter, for me requires 12 hours under heat.
     
  6. psychonaut

    psychonaut Medcreational Member

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    I just ran 2oz of bho blasted trim with 2 1/3 cups of coconut oil at 220F for 90 mins. Hoping there may be a lil something left. Will report back, just took 1 tbsp =)

    Edit - weak =(
     
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  7. luckypucky

    luckypucky Covered in Peepaws

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    I've used my MB2e and it makes awesome butter and oil but the Tincture which I keep trying to perfect is weak.

    I read people talking about a few drops.. It takes a full dropper or more for effects from mine and it doesn't last long.

    I've used ABV mostly..Everclear, Lecthin, glycerin for 8hrs at 160 as they suggest.

    I'm happy with the other methods but I really want the tincture to be strong as it's the best form for travel for me since I have GI issues.. And it helps take the nausea away. I like with tincture I can control my dosage but I do feel like I'm missing something or doing something wrong. I've done 4 batches in my time of having one and I really want to perfect or figure out how to get the tincture method down that is potent.

    Sorry if my problem is an old one. Maybe I should have come in here sooner rather then trying to figure it out myself.. :/

    Decarb I heard is not needed with ABV but with fresh it is.

    What about herb that has been in a tin for years.. Need Decarb still?

    Will only fresh get the best results? (Economically I worry of shelling out and getting weak stuff again :( soo I'm weary)
     
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  8. psychonaut

    psychonaut Medcreational Member

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    I think the only way to get the tinctures really potent would be to use a concentrate. You could get the % of the concentrate and quantity after dilution to figure the potency/ml.

    2 cups tincture recipe with 3gr 80% concentrate would give roughly 2400mg. 5mg/ml
     
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  9. luckypucky

    luckypucky Covered in Peepaws

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    Concentrate? As in BHO Wax? Sorry, Explain?
     
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  10. psychonaut

    psychonaut Medcreational Member

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    Wax, dry sift, rosin, anything along those lines.
     
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  11. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

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    High, how are y'all Or how high are y'all?
    Whichever. Does anyone know a discount code for the MB machine?
     
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  12. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

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  13. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

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  14. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

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    Actually I think it is $25.
     
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  15. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

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    Yep, with code bout same as Amazon
     
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  16. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict

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    The code MBUU will get you $40 off. ;)
     
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  17. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for this code.
    How cool is this?
     
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  18. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict

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    Tell you what... if you are on Facebook, you might want to join the Magical Butter Users United group. It's a closed group, but they take most everyone that tries. Not sure if you need a sponsor or not but if you do I'll be happy to help you out. Hit me up by pm. It's a wealth of information. Magical Butter works closely with them and is active on the page. They also have a page of their own.
     
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  19. wootze

    wootze Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again. Too cool.
     
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  20. HerbieVonVapster

    HerbieVonVapster Well-Known Member

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    Decided to jump on board and order a MBM was looking around on line and came across this hight times experiment.
    http://www.hightimes.com/read/ultimate-cannabutter-experiment-results

    I have never heard of using everclear right after oven decarb? Leaning towards a hour in oven a 220 let it cool couple mins spray with everclear. Decarb again for hour add in MBM then 4 hours at 160.

    I read somewhere the best decarb time was 220 for 110 mins. I figure the hour in oven then another hour in MBM is close to that target.

    Thoughts on this ideal?
     
  21. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict

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    Depends on what you're making. If you are making a tincture that's exactly what you would do.

    The machine itself does not do a good job of decarbing unless you use the low and slow method which takes 3 days. Opinions vary on the 'correct' time for decarb in the oven; they can be anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour depending on the person. I tend to err on the side of caution and don't leave it in for a whole hour. If you read back a couple pages on this thread, you will see other members's opinions on this. Two members I tend to think know their 'stuff' with this machine are @killick and @MrNaturalAZ . Perhaps search this thread for their posts and get some ideas from them.

    Personally, I have started using the low and slow method for extraction.
     
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  22. HerbieVonVapster

    HerbieVonVapster Well-Known Member

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    I guess I was not clear you use coconut oil as your base. After decarb you spray the cannabis with everclear. The Scientific Cannabutter experiment in link explains reasoning for this.
     
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  23. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict

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    Interesting. I can honestly say that I've never seen or heard of using Everclear before now. It would appear they used it instead of lecithin.
     
  24. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    @momofthegoons What was the three day slow method with the MB? I've been using the @MrNaturalAZ method of decarbing and seems to work well. I let mine process in the cooking processing phase for 4 hours. I just start it back up so it can continue to process.

    I don't do Facebook.
     
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  25. momofthegoons

    momofthegoons vapor accessory addict

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    You take 1 - 2 oz. of herb and combine it with 1 lb. of melted butter in the MB machine. You can use coconut oil if you prefer. Set the machine to 160 degrees and run for 8 hrs. Repeat the cycle. Let rest at room temp overnight. Repeat the two cycles at 160 for 8 hours the next two days. After three days, cool, strain and pour 1/2 c. of butter into each section of a muffin tin or in 2 oz. containers and freeze until solid. Store in a ziplock in the fridge or freezer until ready to use.

    This method does not need decarbing prior.
     
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