Lo

Combustion free since '09
It takes a few heat cycles to get to 'the zone' in my opinion. Also helps if your material is well ground and dry'ish. Don't overload the bowl and if you don't see visible vapor in 5 or 6 minutes then you might have an issue. I always see vapor but not straight away upon lighting.

Good luck and welcome to the forum!!
 
Lo,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
Just an FYI.... I emailed O&B about my SS mouthpieces breaking (2 in one week). I received a reply this morning :D

Fingers crossed this latest change will put this problem behind us!!

Quote from O & B email:
We have recently made some changes to the production process of the mouthpiece and are reasonably sure that this will solve any remaining issues.
 
Lo,

slickg

Well-Known Member
Hmm,

Used it quite a few times with various fill levels, although I feel the effects somewhat just no vapour. A few of you also say it gets almost too hot to hold after a few cycles I havnt really experienced that at all just feels a bit warm after a like 4 cycles.

First few times I thought there were huge vapour clouds when vaping outside but soon realised most of that was just the hot air in a cold environment :rolleyes:
 
slickg,

jimbo

winterize
I haven't gotten very much vapor wise, but i get really buzzed! it could just be the herb... i'm going to try some Blueberry on the weekend maybe see more vapor than....
 
jimbo,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
I don't get the too hot to hold thing... Near the vents it gets quite warm but it never feels hot to hold to me...guess it's a matter of how you hold it.

I wouldn't call the vapor clouds huge that I get from the Io. I get vapor that is quite visible. It's not the same clouds I get with my PD for instance but visible vapor. The visibility is subject to lighting conditions the way I see it....lower light I can see the vapor better than bright areas.

Is this your first vape?? I ask because coming from smoking over 25 years the first few times I tried to vape I kind of laughed it off. It is quite different and may take some getting used to. You mentioned feeling the effect, do you taste the tastiness as well?? It might be working just fine and you aren't acclimated with it enough yet.

Has your herb lost it's green color for a brown'ish color when done vaping?? Another way to judge whether it's getting to temp.

Give it a fair shake and see what you think. There is warranty service available if yours isn't working properly but a lot of us took a little time to get to know the Iolite. Once I got to know mine well, I bought another :D
 
Lo,

tdavie

Unconscious Objector
slickg said:
Hiya guys new to the forum. I picked up an iolite after reading most of the reviews on here.

So far im not too sure its working as its supposed to. It heats up so the orange light goes out, after that it cycles but im just not getting any visible vapor. Do most of you get a lot of visible vapor?
No, I don't get a lot of visible vapor except under certain circumstances (directly under a light, or the following)

1) Turn Iolite gas on and ignite, first heat cycle (hit it)
2) 2nd heat cycle (hit it)
3) 3rd heat cycle (hit it). This is where I start to get 'more' visible vapor. Even then it is not lots, but it is getting the job done. Are getting an effect, or just not seeing visible vapor?>

Tom
 
tdavie,

slickg

Well-Known Member
Yep new to vaping. Yeah I think its probably a case of getting used to it. To be fair I do feel the effects but just no visible vapor. Those first 2 hits are :o , just the flavour in it :D

Saw that vid on youtube where there was loads of vapour when he was using tobacco so just thought there should be that much vapour

Im probably comparing it to combustion. I have noticed that the effects after using the iolite is quite different to smoking it, hard to describe but its like a more precise clean buzz if that makes any sense. Although smoking it does seem to have a stronger and longer lasting effect than the iolite, but I guess thats countered by the benefits of vaping.
 
slickg,

ioright

Cloud Connoisseur
Has anyone tried to contact O&B lately? I haven't gotten a response in almost two weeks, and I am fed up with broken mouthpieces.
 
ioright,

slickg

Well-Known Member
sent them an email about 2 hours ago and had a reply in 5 mins

you sent to support@my-iolite.com?
 
slickg,

Derf

Well-Known Member
hey all,
just two tips:
1) SHAKE IT!... after your vapor thins out a bit, try shaking your iolite a bit (especially if the bowl isn't 100% full). It increases the amount of vapor you get out of your herb. I think the reason is that the herb forms air channels through the bowl, and the hot air travels in certain paths through the herb, so shaking the iolite re-distributes the herb and allows more air to travel through all parts of the herb, making sure that all of it reaches the optimal temperature for vaporization of as much THC as possible.

2) remove your stems when you turn the iolite off. A lot of people are having trouble with their stems breaking. I think a large factor in this is that the threaded metal sleeve the straw twists into contracts at a different rate than the plastic threads on the straw. The differences in contraction rates cause the metal sleeve to grip and perhaps compress the plastic theads on the straw and break them off. As to the metal threaded straws, I also recommend removing them when you are done with the iolite. There are some people who have reported the metal threads breaking out of the plastic straw, and so I say treat the metal threaded straws with the same deference as the plastic threaded straws.
 
Derf,

chucku

Charles Urbane
slickg said:
Hmm,

Used it quite a few times with various fill levels, although I feel the effects somewhat just no vapour. A few of you also say it gets almost too hot to hold after a few cycles I havnt really experienced that at all just feels a bit warm after a like 4 cycles.

First few times I thought there were huge vapour clouds when vaping outside but soon realised most of that was just the hot air in a cold environment :rolleyes:
Do not forget to draw very lightly. If you are not getting satisfactory results draw more lightly. I also use about a foot of silicone tubing on my mouthpiece. It cools the vapor and there is one less thing to break.
 
chucku,

VaporNinja

Well-Known Member
I just purchased a IR thermometer, aiming at the heating pin, it only reads 350 F. I was expecting it to get up to at least 375 like it claimed. Should I send it back for service?:(
 
VaporNinja,

VaporNinja

Well-Known Member
My IR thermometer doesn't have a laser pointer, but aiming at the metal bowl, highest it goes is up to is 350 F. Anyone else experienced this?
 
VaporNinja,

tdavie

Unconscious Objector
@Derf. Thanks for the suggestion of shaking the Iolite between hits. Hadn't thought of that. 0.2 grams has lasted about 4 hours.

Tom

[Until I remembered to hold on to the ignition chamber it has gone flying across the room on occasion]
 
tdavie,

rbrown13

from the land of milk and honey (Oil that is...)
VaporNinja said:
My IR thermometer doesn't have a laser pointer, but aiming at the metal bowl, highest it goes is up to is 350 F. Anyone else experienced this?
The highest I've seen was 316f with a laser thermometer and it didn't matter if it was the bottom of the bowl or the tip of the pin the outcome was the same.
 
rbrown13,

Vaportrail

Well-Known Member
After trying a butane powered jet flame portable with lackluster results, we obtained the Magic Flight Launch Box when it emerged from Beta testing into production.

What a great unit!

It quickly became our vape of choice.

We also got a larger and faster charger with a car charging accessory plus a bunch of 2700 mA NiMh batteries on eBay along with some battery cases and we were set.

The relatively minor hassle of battery management is far easier (and less expensive) than dealing with butane, especially considering that the LB works flawlessly outdoors in a breeze while the butane models are pretty much useless in a wind.

Online we found the charger for less than $20 and bundles of rechargeable 1.2 volt AA batteries ranging from 2000 up to 2900 mA in bundles of any size for less than a buck apiece, mostly from Asian distributors with a few U.S. sellers.

Although some have groused about the LB's requirement for battery power, we have found it no more of an irritant than dealing with other electronic devices we commonly use including our cameras, computers, cell phones, etc.

The LB's ease of use, rapid warmup time, small size and great vaporization quality makes it our vape of choice while the others now gather dust.

We just can't find anything negative about the Launch Box.

The only improvement we suggest is a spring loaded On/Off power button which would allow the battery to remain fully inserted for on-demand power only when needed during draws rather than insertion and reinsertion of the battery.
 
Vaportrail,

Vaportrail

Well-Known Member
lo said:
5. Please do not use a nearly empty can of butane fuel as this may cause problems with the functioning of the iolite.
Thanks for posting that!! I had personally come to the conclusion that 'end of can's' are not good even with the good stuff like Colibri. My Iolites seem to act up at the end of the can and we batted this theory around back in this thread. Good to know the official updated instructions!! Thanks!!
The quality of butane is determined by the amount of refining.

While Ronson branded butane and other similar butanes generally work fine in ordinary lighters, they do not work well in jet flame lighters which require higher quality, more refined fuel.

Vector brand fuel, which is quintuple refined and readily available in the U.S. either in restaurant supply stores such as Smart and Final or on the internet, is the best fuel for your jet flame-powered portable vaporizer.
 
Vaportrail,

jimbo

winterize
i've been using Nibo butane, its triple refined... works great and its the only
stuff at my local smoke shop... wondering if anybody has used it before and
how it worked out for them, don't want to mess up my Io...
 
jimbo,

Vaportrail

Well-Known Member
".....About your choice of butane; Newport is probably the best brand you can get in Europe/World as most other brands of high quality butane; Colibri, London, Sarome are rebadged Newport."



The quality of butane is determined by the amount of refining."

While Ronson branded butane and other similar butanes generally work fine in ordinary lighters, they do not work well in jet flame lighters which require higher quality, more refined fuel.

Vector brand fuel, which is quintuple refined and readily available in the U.S. either in restaurant supply stores such as Smart and Final or on the internet, is the best fuel for your jet flame-powered portable vaporizer.
 
Vaportrail,

AgentofChaos

Serial Vapist
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I recently purchased an Iolite last week and I had a question. While the herb is in the bowl heating, is vapor escaping? I feel like I need to keep a finger over the mouthpiece in between hits for fear of wasted vapor.

Thanks for your help
 
AgentofChaos,

Derf

Well-Known Member
Vaportrail said:
After trying a butane powered jet flame portable with lackluster results, we obtained the Magic Flight Launch Box when it emerged from Beta testing into production.

What a great unit!

It quickly became our vape of choice.

We also got a larger and faster charger with a car charging accessory plus a bunch of 2700 mA NiMh batteries on eBay along with some battery cases and we were set.

The relatively minor hassle of battery management is far easier (and less expensive) than dealing with butane, especially considering that the LB works flawlessly outdoors in a breeze while the butane models are pretty much useless in a wind.

Online we found the charger for less than $20 and bundles of rechargeable 1.2 volt AA batteries ranging from 2000 up to 2900 mA in bundles of any size for less than a buck apiece, mostly from Asian distributors with a few U.S. sellers.

Although some have groused about the LB's requirement for battery power, we have found it no more of an irritant than dealing with other electronic devices we commonly use including our cameras, computers, cell phones, etc.

The LB's ease of use, rapid warmup time, small size and great vaporization quality makes it our vape of choice while the others now gather dust.

We just can't find anything negative about the Launch Box.

The only improvement we suggest is a spring loaded On/Off power button which would allow the battery to remain fully inserted for on-demand power only when needed during draws rather than insertion and reinsertion of the battery.
This product endorsement, while admirable, is in the wrong forum. I suggest you consider posting it in the MFLB forum since it has absolutely nothing to do with the IOlite. Further, the size of the MFLB, the downtime required to charge the batteries, as well as their associated extra space and weight, the requirement for electricity to charge the batteries, and all the extra accessories to operate it do little to sway me in my opinion on the benefits of it over the IOlite. Additionally, I do not agree with your statement about wind fouling the butane power required for the use of the IOlite. Butane powered lighters are reported to work better in high wind conditions than conventional lighter-fluid based lighters like zippo, but that is neither here nor there, as it has nothing to do with operation of the catalytic heater in the iolite.

AgentofChaos said:
While the herb is in the bowl heating, is vapor escaping? I feel like I need to keep a finger over the mouthpiece in between hits for fear of wasted vapor.
The oil glands that contain the cannabinoids and THC are heated via conduction of heat (through the walls and central pin) to near vaporization for much of the herb in your chamber, which is partly why it is suggested to wait 3-4 cycles before inhaling. There may be some oil that is vaporized if it is in direct contact with the metal walls or central pin, but the bulk of the herb in the chamber is not vaporizing. It isn't until you move air through the herb by inhaling that heat via convection is able to really raise the temperature throughout the bowl to vaporize much of the THC. After you finish inhaling, there may be some vaporized THC still in the chamber or stem, but without any additional air currents it is not escaping from the IOlite. So no, you do not need to keep your finger over the mouthpiece.
Should you decide to turn off the Iolite, the temperature will drop in the chamber, and all un-vaporized oil will be safely preserved until your next activity with the IOlite.
 
Derf,

Derf

Well-Known Member
Vaportrail said:
".....About your choice of butane; Newport is probably the best brand you can get in Europe/World as most other brands of high quality butane; Colibri, London, Sarome are rebadged Newport."

The quality of butane is determined by the amount of refining."

While Ronson branded butane and other similar butanes generally work fine in ordinary lighters, they do not work well in jet flame lighters which require higher quality, more refined fuel.

Vector brand fuel, which is quintuple refined and readily available in the U.S. either in restaurant supply stores such as Smart and Final or on the internet, is the best fuel for your jet flame-powered portable vaporizer.
I also have found Vector brand (local and online) quintuplus and it is very good. I can also recommend DOBO brand - it is also 5X refined.
 
Derf,

Derf

Well-Known Member
VaporNinja said:
I just purchased a IR thermometer, aiming at the heating pin, it only reads 350 F. I was expecting it to get up to at least 375 like it claimed. Should I send it back for service?:(
Several things may be skewing your reading.
From : http://www.allqa.com/IR.htm

When measuring shiny surfaces, such as aluminum and stainless steel, the reflectivity of the surface will skew the reading of an IR thermometer unless you accommodate for it. Either coat surfaces such as griddles or cooking pans with a non-stick cooking spray before you take your reading, or place a small piece of masking tape on the metal surface and measure the taped area.

Factors That Affect the Accuracy of Readings

1) Field-of-view. Make sure that the target is larger than the spot size the unit is measuring. The smaller the target, the closer you should be to it. When accuracy is critical make sure that the target is at least twice as large as the spot size.

2) Distance to spot ratio. The optical system of an infrared thermometer collects the infrared energy from a circular measurement spot and focuses it on the detector. Optical resolution is defined by the ratio of the distance from instrument to the object compared to the size of the spot being measured (D:S ratio). The larger the ratio number the better the instrument's resolution, and the smaller the the spot size that can be measured. The laser sighting included in some instruments only helps to aim at the measured spot.

A recent innovation in infrared optics is the addition of a Close Focus feature, which provides accurate measurement of small target areas without including unwanted background temperatures.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_thermometer

Specifications of portable handheld sensors available to the home user will include ratings of temperature accuracy (usually 2C/4F) and other parameters. The distance-to-spot ratio (D:S) is the ratio of the distance to the object and the diameter of the temperature measurement area. For instance if the D:S ratio is 12:1, measurement of an object 12 inches away will average the temperature over a 1-inch diameter area. The sensor may have an adjustable emissivity setting, which can be set to measure the temperature of reflective (shiny) and non-reflective surfaces. A non-adjustable thermometer can be used to measure the temperature of a shiny surface by applying a non-shiny paint or tape to the surface.


Basically, to get the most accurate reading you need i) an adjustable IR thermometer set to measure reflective surfaces, ii) to set your IR thermometer to measure a shiny surface, iii) to have a large D:S ratio, iv) to position the IR meter very close to the bowl. Ideally you would also like to have the herb chamber ON the iolite, since heat is dissipating more rapidly with the chamber off, which would be equivalent to waiting for your oven to get to 300 degrees with the door open.
 
Derf,

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
Just when I think I need a new toy, someone reminds me of the tremendous learning curves some toys possess.
 
macbill,
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