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Davinci by Karma

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by VaporNinja, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Pick away guys.

    The way I look at it is you are all potential customers and it's important to have your questions answered as timely (and correctly) as possible. We set a standard in service for ourselves with our e-cigarettes and want to do the same with our vaporizer (and soon line of vaporizers).
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  2. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    can we see a video of vapor production yet ? :mmmm:
  3. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Here we go guys...

    http://youtu.be/87xhvxNfajw

    2 parts to this video:
    loading the unit
    producing vapor, keep in mind, the point of vaporizing it to avoid vapor, but you guys asked and we've delivered. Keep in mind, I set the unit to a higher temperature to achieve some vapor production and it started combusting :)

    As always, feedback and comments are appreciated.

    We have some factory units hitting next week in time for the big CHAMPS show and I hope to get some footage of them in action.
  4. VaporBoxed

    VaporBoxed Baked

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    Is the Davinci unable to show visible vapor without combusting? Also, Does the spent load look like dark brown bits or is it ash?

    I know i speak for a lot of people when i say were "chasing clouds." We want a vaporizer that can fulfill our vapor production needs.

    Imo im disappointed with this long awaited video. Especially if in those 3 puffs you managed to combust material.

    TIA,

    VB
  5. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Awesome video Davinci and very cool glasses :cool: ! I like the amount of vapor produced ... it seems for now that all is going fine with your vape.. It is totally covering my expectations.. on vapor productions.. Can you share picstures of your remains.. Are they even brown or dark bits of combustion
  6. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    VaporBoxed, it can with some substances.

    Spent load is dark brown bits

    There wasn't much combustion and that was about take number 7 by the time I hit the 3rd puff.

    One of the aspects of our unit is the stealth aspect, which is hard when visible vapor is being produced. I understand if that is something that would turn off a potential customer and would hate to lose them as a result, but I'd rather that than promise something that was undelivered or underdelivered. A lost sale due to not being something the user wanted is always better than lying to or misleading a cutomer.

    Thanks for the feedback.
  7. norcal

    norcal Member

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    can you show proof all materials are safe for high temps and that there is no off gassing or any other toxic fumes being inhaled?

    how come you didnt inhale on the video? and did you use cannabis? i couldnt understand what you said you used in there.
  8. J.R.R.Tokin'

    J.R.R.Tokin' Wych Doctor Manufacturer

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    @norcal. When you say 'show proof' what do you mean?

    Also, I'm sure for legal reasons that they don't want to show pot being used so I believe he said it was a herbal blend called Donkey Kong :lol:
  9. wolf torn

    wolf torn Well-Known Member

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    ya idk pretty wierd video if u ask me


    too much emphasis on stealth compared to does the thing actually vape properly.


    u took very small hits was just very unnatural looking


    the purpose of vaperizing isn't to not see the vapor....all of us here vaperize and see clouds without combusting

    peace and love
  10. GReYAReA

    GReYAReA Amid The Vapors...

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    First, love the look. High expectations, and will definitely order if it works well. Do want to say, though, that there are already stealthier ways to smoke (like e-cig types). Puffing on the antenna of a portable radio/phone isn't really that stealth.

    I think for you guys, it is ALL going to be about the vapor production. There are plenty of hand held vapes that under deliver in this area. This unit will do very well if it delivers a good hit; experience. Otherwise, it is probably going to get lost next to units like the Solo and ThermoVape.

    I think your pre-orders would go up considerably if you posted more (real world applicable) videos. Demo some units at a dispensary. Better yet, send a test unit to one of the longtime FC board vets. FC is THE place to put your unit to the test and get the word out, if you are confident it will deliver and want it taken seriously. Positive reviews here could make your launch... every serious vapehead in the biz looks here first.

    Sitting by in anticipation to see how this unit pans out..
  11. Egzoset

    Egzoset 1SipAToke Vaporist (v3.0)

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    Hi,

    The way this thread has evolved makes me enthousiast about that one. I wish Karma will be able to avoid those pesky "robo fart" issues we've all heard about recently; another occurance like that would kill any of my remaining hopes for a portable vaporizer!... Well, unless there's an MP3 player built-in, that is! Well, maybe...

    ;)

    Publishing a temprature plot capable of confirming the device's performance in terms of regulation would seriously chalenge the competition and crush the rest of the portables, IMHO. Please don't consider this possibility only to please me, i simply suggest you do it for yourself as i believe that would pay on the long run.

    :2c:
  12. SF Giant

    SF Giant Reluctant vape collector

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    That fella in the video seemed to have some misconceptions about vaping, doesnt instill a huge amount of confidence that this thing is gonna be any good
  13. stickstones

    stickstones Wasted Staff Member

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    The videos led me to believe either they don't have much experience with vapor or they are extremely uncomfortable being on film with cannabis (understandable). It looked to me like in this second video the guy was hitting it like a cigar and not inhaling, George Bush style (I watched it without volume due to my 15 year old being next to me).

    The exterior design and price are right, but I don't yet know enough about the innards. Hopefully these guys will turn out to be like the Thermovape guy...great vape with little video experience!
  14. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    I think he is not using mj.. thats why he is not inhaling dudes.. Those herbal blends can give you an awful; headache .. especially if you overcook..
  15. hogleg

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    "your gonna get into combustion when you start temping it up that high" what? why? those were not even clouds and you combusted?
  16. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    I think that he needs to recheck with us on the term combustion.. I think he said that he assumes the dark brown bits in the abv .. for sign of combustion..
  17. SF Giant

    SF Giant Reluctant vape collector

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    That may be the problem, i have had a person or two try to tell me that if there is visible vapor that I am "burning the herb" and that if you are vaporizing correctly you should see nothing :rolleyes: maybe the guy in the video falls into this camp?
  18. VaporNinja

    VaporNinja Majihuana Enthusiast

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    Yup, even vaping at temperature as low as 325 F, you should still be able to see 'blue' vapor.
  19. moodswing

    moodswing low tolerance is underrated

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    HAH! i cant imagine being in that conversation. i wonder if these people even vape :uhh:
  20. fieldred

    fieldred Member

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    Wow that is one entertaining video...was that a wig?
  21. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. Yes, there was some confusion of terms.

    The reason I wasn't full inhaling is I was using herbal incense at a higher than recommended temp and didn't feel like scorching my lungs....that stuff gets pretty harsh.

    Yes, we will having an optimal temping temperature guide packed with the unit when it ships.

    norcal, not all things are safe to vape and somethings only at certain temperatures. There are a lot of things people vape that I wouldn't recommend, but I can't control what people vape or not. I've heard a lot of damaging information about coffee, eucalyptus and straight tobacco.

    Fieldred, not a wig, I was having a bad hair day, haha

    For those who keep asking, I'm not going to vape canibas. I'm not a MMJ user and therefor am not going to break the law :)
  22. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Well .. I guess we will have to wait until this thing gets in the hands of some serious mj USER . .. so we can get real idea of what it is capable of.. :) .. until then all we have is promises and video of vaporizing jungle highs .. :).
  23. CentiZen

    CentiZen Evil Genius in Training Accessory Maker

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    Well with that cleared up I think you will find us very understanding when it comes to lack of MMJ demos.

    However, one thing that I am wondering now is the range of vaporization, since there are many non medical herbs that vaporize at a much much lower temperature than cannabis, does this handheld have any pre-programmed limits as to the temperature it can reach?

    As well, I am interested to know the construction of the power circuits, more specifically the Power Supply Unit. In other handhelds I have owned the manufactures chose to implement a switching power supply at 15kHz which let off a high pitched whining noise that many of my friends (especially females for some reason) could detect and were mildly annoyed by. As well, what are the specifics of the power cell(s) that will be implemented in this vaporizer? Will it be a standard sized cell that could conceivably be replaced by a user with a knowledge of electrical engineering? This is a big one for me because as a Canadian resident our customs can be downright criminal in their confiscation of anything that could be remotely considered usable for cannabis, presence of resin or not.

    Also, I would absolutely love to see more updates on your development blog, the more I know about the internals and working of the unit the more likely I am going to make it my new stealth portable.
  24. hogleg

    hogleg Well-Known Member

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    Well get it in the hands of someone who can then post a user/customer video
  25. Davinci_vaporizer

    Davinci_vaporizer Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    For vaporization ranges, it will vary based on the vaping material. The "default" temp is 375, but it can be adjusted by the user before the secondary power switch is activated. For example, when I vaped the tobacco in the first video, I set the temp lower because 375 is too high.

    This is also why we have an adjustable temperature controller. We want users to be able to vape their favorite substances and be able to adjust the heat accordingly and not just rely on the vaporizer to "know" how high or low it';s supposed to go.

    For the circuitry, I don't have a lot of information on it, but hope to have more to provide.

    We've heard the high pitched noise complaint as well and have had no such feedback with our unit.

    New news: Our first shipment of 10 models hit the door this morning (hand delivered by the owner of our factory) just in time for the CHAMPS tradeshow, which kicks off tomorrow. For those attending, come on out and see the DaVinci in person for yourself. Hoping to get some video today as well :) Opening up a couple tins to see the new unit was like a kid at Christmas. This thing has been through so many revisions and improvements plus with so much focus and effort on this, it's a big relief to see the fruits of our labor come through the door. It makes all of the 10-12 hour days worth the while.

    The owner of the company has been working on this thing for over a year now, so he's especially excited about his baby finally hitting US shores.

    While I realize we can't be everyone's vaporizer of choice and I still have plenty to learn about vaporizers, vape enthusiasts, I'm excited that we're finally approaching official launch day and can share it with the amazing guys I've met through FC (thanks everyone for the emails and phone calls).

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