I don't care if people get high, stoner or whatever. I wouldn't mind if I could occasionally but can't. What people miss is it is different to want to get stoned and want to get your meds in you. Different devices for different purposes. Somehow that gets lost in this as it isn't a debate. To each there own but don't try to make a medical device a stoner device. Some vapes can do both some can't. This vape was clearly advertised as a medical device. I am not sticking up for this device as I don't have one and didn't order one. It just is what it is. If I wanted to party with people I wouldn't use a vape at all but some of you do and are fine with that. To me a joint lends more to a party or I suppose a huge volcano bag if wanting to use a vape. Hell natural farmers vapor lung will work well too. I believe the original word I used was if you want to "party" ok here is the exact quote and it just sounds bad to me which is why I got my back up. "I'm sure it gets you 'medicated', if you're the kind of person that uses that term. But if I want to get absolutely blitzed, then I don't think I would be a happy customer." This was by josephaltier I felt the wording was degrading to medical users. Which is how this whole thing got started today. People who party for that sole purpose don't understand medical use but most of us medical users did party at some point in our lives and as stated by some members still do sometimes. The difference is our main concern is meds. As Mark stated he was able to get off a lot of the poisons and so was I. I am a paraplegic and not to be gross but to show you reality, if I take vicodine and all those other meds they gave me I can't have a bowel movement. I can't have one now as I don't have bladder function. I won't go into it more and if you really want the gross detail PM me but yes I get mad when "stoner" poo poo medical users which is how that statement came off. I have no intentions of getting "blizted", that is not my intended use. I don't care if that is yours but again this was med with the medical user in mind. What Jcat said is sooooooooooo true...we can't get that way anymore cause of the amount we need to medicate..reading into your post jcat. No I am not divorcing myself either but not liking be put down.