Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud
- Thread starter VapeXhale
- Start date
- Status
scientist22
Vapor bong addict
SM I preordered a while back but I'm switching email accounts could I get you to update your records?
****Alright, thank you for the tip
****Alright, thank you for the tip
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
gatcony said:
You can actually edit your other post next time rather then double posting. makes it easier for everyone.
You will not know exact temp with the VXC, but this vape excels in consistency. Simply start low and dial in to your perfect temp in the Cloud. This should only take a session or two. Once you find it, you can keep it there for all other similar herb material, unless switching to concentrates ect. You dont have the need to increase temp during the end of a session like about any other variable temp vape, because you can vaporize the load all the way through will one stir max.
max
Out to lunch
We usually make it clear that we're guessing by qualifying with 'I think', or 'IMO'. Since it seems that the major wrinkles have now been ironed out, my guess is that your guess is way off the mark. The "well in to" part is right. Just change 2012 to 2011.gatcony said:
Thank you. We do discourage back to back posts here.IAmKrazy2 said:
I think that most people find that the more they get into vaporizing, the less they care about the exact temp they're getting. And many of the vapes with digital numbers on display are among the most inaccurate for actual vaping temp.
Vapemania-original
New Member
Good to see the Cloud may be available by the end of the year.
It looks like a great product.
Given the price ($449), it's cheaper than a Volcano!
Although it's still more expensive than an SSV, EQ, Aromed, log vapes, DBV, HA etc.
So it looks like the product needs to be better than these tried and tested vaporisers, if people are going to fork out their money.
If it is, then I'm saving up!
It's a shame the device is to be used with glassware.
Although, I know a lot of people like that.
But if the glass needs cleaning, or I damage it, then I can't use the device with a cheap replacement whip or stem.
But it looks good.
Gonna wait for the lucky folks who pre-ordered their Cloud to post in.
It looks like a great product.
Given the price ($449), it's cheaper than a Volcano!
Although it's still more expensive than an SSV, EQ, Aromed, log vapes, DBV, HA etc.
So it looks like the product needs to be better than these tried and tested vaporisers, if people are going to fork out their money.
If it is, then I'm saving up!
It's a shame the device is to be used with glassware.
Although, I know a lot of people like that.
But if the glass needs cleaning, or I damage it, then I can't use the device with a cheap replacement whip or stem.
But it looks good.
Gonna wait for the lucky folks who pre-ordered their Cloud to post in.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
Vapemania said:
If youre not looking for a vape to use with glass, it might not be the vape for you. But from a design, technology, and pure functional standpoint none of the vape you mentioned can even hold a candle to the VXC,
It best not to break all your glass, but an 18mm J-hook or 18mm whip with a female adapter would mate perfectly to the cloud, giving you some more traditional whip style options for delivery methods. Not sure, but after the testing i did i think i would prefer an empty HT to a standard whip, but if VXC came out with a whip for the device, id probally buy it like anything else they come up with.
max
Out to lunch
Not necessarily. It doesn't have to perform better in all cases, the buyer just has to like it better. And the Cloud is designed as a vape for the connoisseur. I don't think they expect to be in the mix for someone who's budget minded and looking for quality at the $200 price level.
Again, that's the market the vape is aimed at-those who like glass and water filtration.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Vapemania said:
I'm not a glass guy by any means, but using the Cloud changed my mind. The all-glass, water-filtered, ice-cooled hits this thing produces outpace anything else I have tried for taste and smoothness.
Vapemania-original
New Member
max said:
If the performance of the vaporiser is not better, but a buyer 'just likes it better', then I imagine there will not be many buyers.
If the VXC is $450 then I expect the glassware is $225 and the vaporiser is $225.
So it looks like the vaporiser is actually on the $200 price level, doesn't it?
Or is my calculation inaccurate?
Water filtration is only necessary for combustion users.
This is because when the cannabis is burnt with a flame, the released smoke is too hot to be inhaled.
It needs cooling by water.
Also, the carcinogens and tar makes the taste unwholesome. This needs to be filtered out by water too.
With a vaporiser, cooling and filtration is not needed. Therefore glassware is not needed.
This is because the vapour is not too hot and there are no carcinogens or tar.
Furthermore, scientific studies have proved that water filtration of vaped cannabis will actually retain some of the cannabinoids. This will reduce efficiency.
So I can't understand why the VXC is aimed at glassware users.
I just imagined that the vape from the VXC was so hot, that it needs cooling with glassware.
Only problem with that is, it is inefficient and adds cost.
A way round it, would be to reduce the temp so the vape is not so hot. Or you could even release the vape into a bag, so it cools in the bag.
For me, a vaporiser is not a status symbol, social activity or even something nice to look at.
It is a unit which simply gets me high.
If the unit gets me high reliably and efficiently, then I will value it.
If the unit is affordable, then I will buy it.
I will certainly not write a song about it describing how wonderful it is.
I am more likely to write a song about getting high and say how wonderful that is.
I'm sure connoisseurs like Marley, Dylan an Black Sabbath will agree with me on this.
hereatlast
Well-Known Member
Vapemania said:
This is way off IMO. Just because the initial package will consist of two pieces doesn't mean that the price is distributed as such...to me, that's like saying that if you buy a whip-vape for $200 that the whip-set must be $100 and the vape itself must be worth $100. I don't really understand where you've gotten the above numbers or let alone how it qualifies as a 'calculation'?
Vapemania said:
This is just simply not true. Even combustion users don't have to use water filtration.
Vapemania said:
This is opinion and not fact. I'm sure you can see that on this site (and this thread for that matter) there is a pretty substantial community that enjoys water-filtered vapors. More than nine times out of ten that I vape I'm vaping with a bong or bubbler, this is a personal preference I know I won't be turning back from. The water can scrub out particulates, moisturize and cool the vapor before inhalation. There are plenty of advantages and preferences for this type of set-up, please don't demean them with opinion stated as fact.
Vapemania said:
While I can't speak to the actual product, it does seem that part of VXL's mission statement was to produce a vaporizer that facilitates use with water-filtration that excels at both low-temperature settings and the higher lung-busters that some users prefer. To say that water filtration is only necessary for higher temperatures confuses me, where do you get this opinion? My preference is lower-temperature (tastier!) vapors filtered through water, that formula works for me and the water-filtration is a permanent part of my and many other's vaporizing habits.
Briefly, I think its worth looking into the benefits of water-filtered vapors before posting such one-sided opinions like that. If the scientific explanation of scrubbing particulates and moisturizing the vapors doesn't suffice for you I'm sure that many, many users (in this thread or otherwise) will provide some great anecdotal evidence for their preference to use water-filtration. All I know is, I'm not selling my water-tools anytime soon and I think I see a Cloud on the horizon.
(EDITED for completion)
stickstones
Vapor concierge
vapemania...you sound like someone with more knowledge than experience. I don't think you know what you are talking about in this situation. I didn't see the need or use for glass and water filtration for vapor either, until I tried the Cloud and experienced it first hand. Have you ever attampted taking a water-filtered, ice-cooled vapor hit?
Vapemania-original
New Member
stickstones said:
No, I haven't used the VXC.
If it is as good as you say, then I would agree that the VXC is legit.
I imagine there are some people who really like an SSV or EQ.
Similarly, there will be people who prefer to spend more money and introduce glassware to get a satisfying hit.
I don't have a problem with that.
Just as long as we all understand that we have spent more money and introduced glassware.
Of course, some people may have acquired a VXC without spending a lot of money.
In which case, the thick hits from a VXC will be particularly satisfying.
Also, for all my other fans reading this post, I am not writing fact.
It is all entirely opinion.
The reason it looks like fact is because of my style of writing.
I cannot dance. But I do have style.
max
Out to lunch
Better performance is kind of subjective. It certainly performs better than the other models you mention in the area of heat retention, for example. And you can't hold a whip vape in your hand and hit it, while getting water filtration and having the other hand free. But it's quite possible that someone could prefer one of the others you mention, especially if price is a consideration. Again, it's a vape for the connoisseur, and incorporates features of some of the best vapes around, all in one unit. A lot of people are going to like it, and there are already many buyers, even without a single production unit shipped yet.
So hits are better if the price is less? Maybe you could expand on that somewhat cryptic statement/opinion.
some of us like vapor in water pipes not because it's too hot or the tar etc. I personally want this vape because with my "dry" vape the vapor is too dry. I cough much more from vaporizing than combustion solely because of the dryness. I would probably even try warm water with the unit (when it's my turn to get it) to make it even more moist. 
- Status