Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
My tracking info says the shipment is 3.3lbs, and I am only expecting an EVO, no HT/case, and possibly a CloudBuddy. Cloud a Cloud buddy make an entire 1 pound difference?

@grokit, great suggestion! I have given preference to GFI outlets when they are an option, but never thought of getting an adapter. How about an EVO plugged into one of those, plugged into a single outlet surge protector, plugged into the power source? :lol:

It may be they are using some sort of shipping template with fixed weights for certain size packages.

Don't want to look back through the thread, but I think there were a couple of posts that got theirs and they were EVO and HT @3.2#.
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
all right, how 'bout this?

unless you have a tube or case we will assume you have your evo only
(not that i expect it'll do any good ;))
 
Bob Loblaw,

Live-N-Learn

Higher, Higher, Baby...
Alright peeps I wanted to show you this at least for tonight. This is on 130 -2 [not sure].
Toasty.
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My tips so far. Its definitelyyyy meant to be held on the bottom. The top is hot, and remember I'm a biznayee so any type of warm is scary lol. I have the 2 bands but am too waisted atm to attempt to put them on the EVO. Thats all. Knicks at halftime down 3. I feel way better, the EVO has brought me back to life. Not enough to make a video though lol.
 

Live-N-Learn

Higher, Higher, Baby...
L-N-L, do you have a fan you can train on/near it? It works great on the old units, so I'm hopeful it works well with the EVO.



This made me laugh. :lol:

:peace:

F you wee down 8 now. :(
I have a mini fan, I will try keeping it cool. Thanks.

On another note I combusted at 2pm. It was like a bong hit for real, I wasnt expecting that. I filled the ELB 80% and went ham. Oh man this thing is made for concentrates for sure. I thought it was like the Cloud+, but nuh uh.

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Deadshort480

We're here to fuck shit up.
It is important to know that a GFCI outlet is not made to protect the user, it is there to protect the circuit itself.

Think of it this way, if there is a worst case scenario problem then everything from the unit to the outlet is pretty much fucked while everything that the outlet is tied to back to the panel is protected. The circuit that the outlet is part of is protected by the GFCI.
 

max

Out to lunch
I wasn't talking specifically about the cord you got, but more a making a post to advice those who are less informed, who may get a ridiculously long cord, or just get whatever they can find. Someone looking for something more flexible may get something too small/thin, etc. I only quoted your post, as it was along the same lines as the others, regarding upgrading cables, amazon buys, etc. Sorry if it came across like I was saying what you purchased was inferior...just trying to help others make a similarly informed good buy.
Any current model cord that fits will be fine for the electrical requirements. I'm using a cord that came with a Brother laser printer because it's flat like lamp cord, and therefore a little more flexible.

I guess I should put in my :2c: on the VXLCEVO vs. the Cloud. It's quite an improved athlete.

It's a big hitter- no change there from the Cloud except that I think the vapor/air ratio is a little higher for a richer hit. I offered that opinion to stonemonkey and he said that was the goal. I would often restrict the air intake on the Cloud, but haven't felt the urge yet with the EVO.

It's light on its feet. The weight drop has been posted, and it's significant. The difference between the EVO and the Solo is just under 3 oz. (83g). It's not only easier to use when lowering onto a bubbler, I think it's safer for vape and glass as well. My Mobius Ion (with water) weighs almost twice as much as the EVO, so now there can be a little more 'give' when vape meets glass. The o-ring/gasket that my Cloud doesn't have should also offer some shock absorber protection.

It's fast. You won't really appreciate the quick heat up time unless you've used the Cloud for a while. Long enough for the honeymoon to be over and now you're sick to death of waiting for the wife to get ready to go out.

The removable cord is a nice convenience, especially if your dog decides it's a chew toy. Makes just moving it from one room to another easier.

Last but not least- it's cool. Even if you don't think it's cool as in awesome, the bottom half of the vape is now practically room temp, which is a huge improvement if you're keeping it on long past the auto shutoff.

Whether the improvements are major or minor is a matter of opinion, and can vary depending on how you use it, but if you wanted the Cloud and didn't get one, I think this version was well worth the wait. Long term reliability remains to be seen, but they seem confident in the new internal improvements.
 

grokit

well-worn member
@grokit, great suggestion! I have given preference to GFI outlets when they are an option, but never thought of getting an adapter. How about an EVO plugged into one of those, plugged into a single outlet surge protector, plugged into the power source? :lol:

Can't have enough protection, I always say :freak:

Seriously, I have a whole-house surge protector installed, so I really don't worry about protecting individual appliances. In house wiring, gfi outlets are required anywhere water is involved (laundry, bath, kitchen etc.). So it seems like a no-brainer to me to put gfi protection on the outlet where 110v cloud heaters and glass bubblers mix, unless it's in one of the aforementioned rooms that already have these type of outlets installed in them.

Better safe that fried like an egg I always say!
Actually that's the first time I said that :razz:

It is important to know that a GFCI outlet is not made to protect the user, it is there to protect the circuit itself.

Think of it this way, if there is a worst case scenario problem then everything from the unit to the outlet is pretty much fucked while everything that the outlet is tied to back to the panel is protected. The circuit that the outlet is part of is protected by the GFCI.

I was always taught that the breaker itself protects the circuit, but that gfi outlet protection is to keep the clock-radio in the bathtub scenario from being quite so deadly.
:hmm:
 
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Deadshort480

We're here to fuck shit up.
No sir. If that was the case then the GFCI breaker would not exist. A GFCI outlet could trip in time to not kill a person in a bathtub, but that is not what it was designed for. It was designed to protect the circuit so that an electrical fire does not start.
 

exit

Well-Known Member
Very surprised to hear reports of combusion! i trust all of you but it's combustion not super heavy vapor?
 
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swahvay

Well-Known Member
So I've been lurking for a while. Just wanted to make a note here as I'm actually taking a class in electrical service right now.
I took the info from the cord that the EVO came with and just looked for the same specs on Amazon. It's been used for days and I've found nothing wrong with the cord. There should be zero voltage drop when extending from an 8ft. to a 15ft. cord.
Distance is directly proportional to voltage drop in a conductor (your cable). Basically, more length = more resistance = less voltage coming at any one time.

Anyway, I pretty much always order my cables from Monoprice. Haven't had a problem yet. They have quality wires, in a variety of gauges, lengths, and colors.

And GFCIs (ground fault current interrupters) are always a good idea when dealing with water and electricity. But not always convenient. If you don't use them all the time, I'll just say be very careful. It's something like 6 milliamps that can kill you.

And in regards to the EVO itself, I love the media guys. Every time I see someone else has gotten theirs I'm excited and happy for them and looking at the pics and videos like I haven't already seen it. It's great. Congrats to everybody who's gotten theirs and loves it. Congrats to VXL for rising from the ashes of being back-stabbed and all the problems surrounding that.

I'll get back to lurking now.

It is important to know that a GFCI outlet is not made to protect the user, it is there to protect the circuit itself.

Think of it this way, if there is a worst case scenario problem then everything from the unit to the outlet is pretty much fucked while everything that the outlet is tied to back to the panel is protected. The circuit that the outlet is part of is protected by the GFCI.
No sir. GFCIs protect people. GFPs protect property/equipment. What a GFCI does is basically like this: if it detects a path to ground (which would be you) with at least like 4 milliamps (factory calibrated), it kills the power. To protect you. You'll still FEEL the electrocution (sensation starts at .5 mA) but you won't die at least. And it won't protect you from line-to-line contact.

GFPs (ground fault protectors) are designed to limit damage of property (equipment) in case of fault between live circuitry and ground. These are usually calibrated from 5 to 2k amps. The lower end being more than enough to stop a person's heart.
 
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Deadshort480

We're here to fuck shit up.
No sir. GFCIs protect people. GFPs protect property/equipment. What a GFCI does is basically like this: if it detects a path to ground (which would be you) with at least like 4 milliamps (factory calibrated), it kills the power. To protect you. You'll still FEEL the electrocution (sensation starts at .5 mA) but you won't die at least. And it won't protect you from line-to-line contact.

GFPs are designed to limit damage of property (equipment) in case of fault between live circuitry and ground. These are usually calibrated from 5 to 2k amps. The lower end being more than enough to stop a person's heart.

I guess my apprenticeship and 11 years of being an electrician has taught me nothing. Thank you for the information.

Edit: I should be more clear. A GFCI will protect a user, but it was not what the GFCI was designed to do. I have seen GFCI failures where electronic equipment is completely fried. Hair dryers are a perfect example. I've seen two hair dryers completely melted on to countertops.
 
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swahvay

Well-Known Member
I guess my apprenticeship and 11 years of being an electrician has taught me nothing. Thank you for the information.

Lol. I'm absolutely not saying that it taught you nothing. Saying that perhaps you're mistaken (between GFCIs and GFPs) because I'm taking my class right now and it's fresh in my mind.

Edit: I should be more clear. A GFCI will protect a user, but it was not what the GFCI was designed to do. I have seen GFCI failures where electronic equipment is completely fried. Hair dryers are a perfect example. I've seen two hair dryers completely melted on to countertops.
Well yes, your equipment may get fried because GFCIs ARE designed to protect people. They are NOT designed to protect equipment (though equipment may remain unaffected). GFPs protect equipment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device#Purpose_and_operation
http://home.howstuffworks.com/question117.htm

Edit: informational link
 
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Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Granted its been a few decades since my apprenticeship and more than a few “clouds” have drifted by....

My recollection is that things like GFCIs are in a class of devices once labeled RCD (Resitual-current device). And were designed to detect and measure any imbalance between the energized and the return conductors. If such an imbalance was detected then the RCD disconnects the circuit. A small leakage (less than 30 milliamperes) might not trip a circuit breaker or fuse, but could be sufficient to put your heart into ventricular fibrillation (and most likely death). There are RCDs with differing response intervals and sensitivities, but the most common one is the GFCI which was designed to be used in “wet” locations (bath, kitchen, outdoors) to prevent such electrocutions. So, in essence, their purpose is to prevent harm to people. Circuit breakers and fuses, I believe, were designed to prevent the conditions that encourage fires (over heated wires, etc.).

No matter how one looks at it wherever water and electricity are involved a GFCI controlled circuit is a very good idea.

 

Live-N-Learn

Higher, Higher, Baby...
I need help peeps with EVOs. I dont know if im taking too many hits or what but im getting like coffee at 12-1. any pro tips that want to be shared? Do I need to remove the ELB in between hits? I like 25% elb full, how many hits should i get off that? I cant seem to find that sweet spot where my glass is milk but the flavor is there.
 

Your Highness

Cannasseur
I need help peeps with EVOs. I dont know if im taking too many hits or what but im getting like coffee at 12-1. any pro tips that want to be shared? Do I need to remove the ELB in between hits? I like 25% elb full, how many hits should i get off that? I cant seem to find that sweet spot where my glass is milk but the flavor is there.

Mine is running on the hot side. Try dialing it back to like 10. I'm getting a nice roast at that setting. 12 combusts for me. Haven't tried any concentrates yet but I'm thinking 12 to 1 will be my spot. All of this testing has my eyes super low and heavy.
 

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
I need help peeps with EVOs. I dont know if im taking too many hits or what but im getting like coffee at 12-1. any pro tips that want to be shared? Do I need to remove the ELB in between hits? I like 25% elb full, how many hits should i get off that? I cant seem to find that sweet spot where my glass is milk but the flavor is there.

she runs pretty hot after 6 or 7 minutes of warming up. ive been happy with 1030 after a full warm up. maybe closer to 10. just dial back.
 

GSH

On a Möbius plane
she runs pretty hot after 6 or 7 minutes of warming up. ive been happy with 1030 after a full warm up. maybe closer to 10. just dial back.
This seems a little odd. Many of the vids on Instagram from SM55 showed him using the 3 o'clock setting and getting thick vapor, didn't look like smoke.

I am surprised to hear of people combusting...
 

mmafighterthe25

Well-Known Member
i just had a hiccup with my new evo, turned on 5th time. red light on waited 6 mins red light still, then moved heat dial it when green light but unit not hot. i turned it off tired it again now heated fine
 
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dagr8one

New Member
Ok experienced major combustion well I hope that's all it was tube smoked out like lnl's and elb smoking also.removed elb immediately n unplugged unit elb is burnt on bottom dont care about elb longs my evo is good after it cools ill try again
 
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