TUBO evic/dual

[Shit Snacks]

It finally arrived!! Today is a great day. I'm so excited but also overwhelmed .

I know it came with a manual but are there any direction videos online for how to set up/use this things? I can't even figure out how to turn the thing on.. I'm charging it up as we speak. At 100% charged, how long does this thing last?

There was some broken glass unfortunately from one of the stems. Hopefully Funky will reimburse me.

Edit: the long mouthpiece feels pretty loose when I put it in the evic. Is this normal? It almost falls right out. doesn't seem to be the right size.. Also the screen bowl doesn't seem to fit in the mouthpiece. Help is much appreciated!

You'll have to press screens to try to widen them to fit, and all glass has varying sizes so loose shouldn't matter just be careful and enjoy!

 

[DougBentley]

You'll have to press screens to try to widen them to fit, and all glass has varying sizes so loose shouldn't matter just be careful and enjoy!

Any tutorial videos online? Im not sure how to use the screen bowl.. And the stem feels very loose compared to the video on the lamar website.

 

[DougBentley]

Anyone out there? Im really struggling how to use this thing..

I wish there was directions or one video how to load the bowl properly and use it (without the water attachment). Everything keeps falling out of the bowl and the screen basket doesn't even fit in the mouthpiece. I have to stuff it and it seems like its going to break. Also the mouthpiece is super loose. I may have gotten a non working item.

 

[SloJimFizz]

My bent stem does not lock in, it can turn and is loose. I pack the big part of the bowl use the screen as a lid . The screen cap should be a snug fit.
With the gong piece, I put the screen cap in, then load that cause gravity is on my side.

 

[DougBentley]

So you don't use the screen basket just the bowl in the mouthpiece? Thanks for responding btw

 

[SloJimFizz]

I use the screen to hold the weed in.
Some pack the screen cap, tamp it down. Keeps the weed closer to the heat.
Some make a sandwich of two screens with the herb in between the two.
You getting any vape yet?
Tried cruise mode?

 

[DougBentley]

I use the screen to hold the weed in.
Some pack the screen cap, tamp it down. Keeps the weed closer to the heat.
Some make a sandwich of two screens with the herb in between the two.
You getting any vape yet?
Tried cruise mode?

That definitely helps but it still seems crazy to load a bowl like that especially reloading takes a while.

 

[Whissmu]

this vape looks very good! I usually visit this thread because it tempts me a lot to get one but I have a Milaana and my fear is that it is only for me a ¨digital millaana¨.

- I would like to know of some comparison more (I have read some) between the milaana and the tuve

- some weight reason why to choose a tube?

Thank you !!

 

[DougBentley]

I have both the milaana and tubo evic and can give you a good comparison once I figure out this tubo a little more.

 

[Leolo]

Hi,
I'm just about to order the Tubo evic as my first vape and need some advice before i pull the trigger..

First, is the tubo evic a wise choice for a frst vape? So far i have only tried the vulcano and a cheap chinese desktop vape. (the vulcano was nice, but is bulky and out of my budget) I've also been considering the arizer Q since i mainly will use the vape at home, but the option of portability and the cute, sort of handmade design is tipping me towards the tubi. I expect the vape quality of the tubo to as good or almost as good as the arizer Q, is that the case?

I also read that some people have problems in the beginning, but i hope that there is a leraning curve and that operation should be easy once you have become friend with the different settings, is that right?

And finally, what accessories should i buy? i'm not a heavy smoker and my tolerance is pretty low. I expect to use the on demand mode most with pretty small loadings and i do care about smoothness. Would the basket screens help me to makepack smaller bowls? And is the vapor kinder to lungs if utilizing a whip? is 40 cm enough?

If anybody know of any upcoming sales, package deals or promotion codes, I'm all ears.

Thankful for any advice,

best,
Leolo

 

[sickmanfraud]

Hi,
I'm just about to order the Tubo evic as my first vape and need some advice before i pull the trigger..

First, is the tubo evic a wise choice for a frst vape? So far i have only tried the vulcano and a cheap chinese desktop vape. (the vulcano was nice, but is bulky and out of my budget) I've also been considering the arizer Q since i mainly will use the vape at home, but the option of portability and the cute, sort of handmade design is tipping me towards the tubi. I expect the vape quality of the tubo to as good or almost as good as the arizer Q, is that the case?

I also read that some people have problems in the beginning, but i hope that there is a leraning curve and that operation should be easy once you have become friend with the different settings, is that right?

And finally, what accessories should i buy? i'm not a heavy smoker and my tolerance is pretty low. I expect to use the on demand mode most with pretty small loadings and i do care about smoothness. Would the basket screens help me to makepack smaller bowls? And is the vapor kinder to lungs if utilizing a whip? is 40 cm enough?

If anybody know of any upcoming sales, package deals or promotion codes, I'm all ears.

Thankful for any advice,

best,
Leolo

@Leolo welcome to FC. There is a lot of information here, the discovery is part of the fun.

The Tubo is an excellent choice for anyone. It works well, dependable (I think 1 or maybe 2 of the of the first 100 were returned for service) and it is very flexible in the ways it can be used.

here is the link to the website for ordering. http://shop.lamart.ch/index.php?route=common/home

@Whissmu I rarely use/used my Milaana once I got a Tubo. Tubo is superior in every way, IMO.

@SloJimFizz get some Teflon tape. A few winds around the widest part and presto we have a very tight fit.

 

[leveltree]

@Leolo
I have never tested the arizer, because the tubo is my first vape. I had the same question and am very glad to have made the decision to get it.
For smaller dosing I absolutely recommend the basket screens, get a few of them.
The whip definitely cools the vapor but even better works water or the cooler from @DDave.
You will probably use cruise anyway after a while because it's much more convenient than on demand and helps keeping temperature.
If you want more information don't hesitate to send me a pm.
Sounds like you are in a similar situation as me a year ago

 

[BaroneBarra]

Hey everyone,
after being abroad for the holidays, I'm back for some Tubo testing.

You might remember I was having less than stellar experience with it. Inspecting things further, I realized the value of TCR read 185, while I have 230 written on the door.
So I went and change the parameter, and immediately noticed the difference: at 180° I was getting clouds! Great!

Unfortunately, when I stepped up to 220°, combustion occurred. Awful taste, herb turned into a black powder, mesh screen stained. Is that too hot? I believe I read people saying they go even higher than that.
Anyway, I cleaned everything and tried a new bowl at 200°... Didn't combust only because, after the third hit, I realised the taste was off: sure enough, herb was scorched in the middle, and still green on the sides.

What am I doing wrong? Was running too cold and now it's too hot, or it may be my inhaling technique? Should I try a TCR value in between, like 210? This was done via the WPA, with a D020 and the whip.

Also, the problem of the freezing screen (thanks @Gray Area and @little maggie for chiming in!) is still present.

I'm thinking I might restore the firmware and start from scratch.

Cheers!

 

[Leolo]

Sickmanfraud and leveltree, thanks for your kind words and advice!

Nice to hear that the dud ones are exeptions!

I found the shop and have filled the basket several times without pulling the trigger.. Don't wanna order and regret that didn't include some superimportant accessories, but at the same time don't wanna buy a superlong whip i just to find that it's much nicer to just use the longer glass bent mouth piece.

I will definitely ad some basket screens and check out ddaves water cooler! PM advice is a generous offer, Thanks for that!

Another Q, is one battery included is the price? I find it hard to tell from the info on Lamarts eshop..

 

[SloJimFizz]

No battery comes with it @Leolo
Time to shop while you await the Tubo.You can get by with one, but 3 is the magic number for me.
I love the bent stem and use it more than the whip, but the whip is awesome and the gong adaptor is a must.
@sickmanfraud thanks for the tip. Not really worried about a tight fit with the bent stem, just letting @DougBentley he was not alone.

 

[Leolo]

@SloJimFizz

Great info! thanks! Maybe should go for two batteries at least, even if i'm a conservative smoker., sorry vapor.. vaporer ,wait vaporist or wahtever it's called. - if I smoke with a friend or two..

So maybe skip the whip and buy the wpa and by a watercooler instead of the whip?

Have you got any experience with the ddave cooler that level tree suggested? i get that some taste and terpentenes and are lost in water, but guess that the water humidifies the vapor, which should make it more tolerable for the lungs.. I suffer from asthma in periods and easely coughs in those periods.. haven't smoke so much in the last decade and wanna take my old hobby upp in the healthiest way possible..

 

[SloJimFizz]

I'd skip the water cooler and get the whip.
I bought the bent stem and the gong. The whips were a bonus to early orders and was a pleasant surprise to me.
Knowing what I know now, I would order all three of those with my Tubo.The bent, the whip and the gong.

 

[Leolo]

Ok. Million thanks!

I will most probably go for that! Just to be clear, with gong, do you mean the WPA? and if, Is 14 or 18 mm the most common standard? any reason to also buy the shorter stem.. portability, better with whip?

 

[horst]

You might remember I was having less than stellar experience with it. Inspecting things further, I realized the value of TCR read 185, while I have 230 written on the door.
So I went and change the parameter, and immediately noticed the difference: at 180° I was getting clouds! Great!

Unfortunately, when I stepped up to 220°, combustion occurred. Awful taste, herb turned into a black powder, mesh screen stained. Is that too hot?

Not that deep into settings also but one thing I understand, TCR is something different then the value on the door, the value on the door is the calibrated value for the coil value on the tubo display, the one in the middle between Power and Temperature.

You have to understand that the temperature is a calculated value and not a measured value. When @funkyjunky builds a tubo he measures the temperature so that when in Mode TCR 185 M1 together with the COIL value on your door your displayed temperature equals the real temperature as close as possible.

So when you now alter these settings, regardless of changing TCR value or COIL value, you get different temps then the ones displayed on the unit. Thats why you combust at 220 setting, it is now not even close to 220 real celsius because of the changed values.

When you have the feeling that the calibrated values are to low for your feeling, you should start slowly increasing the COIL value rather then any other parameters. So when you have 230 written on your door, try 235, if that doesn't feel enough go to 240 etc...

I have to say that I didn't changed any parameters and am quite happy with the accuracy of the device at it is calibrated by @funkyjunky. Never felt the need to change things.

If you have a second vape you can test your accuracy easily by exchanging loads. Set your tubo to 180 and vape a load in cruise mode until there is no vapor left, stir, repeat until no vapor. Now put that herb in another vape, set it also to 180 and see if any vapor occurs. if yes, your tubo is really calibrated to low and you should try different coil settings. If you don't get any vapor increase to 185 and see if vapor is produced, if not your device is calibrated to hot and you should lower the coil setting if you want apropiate values.

Sure you can mess with the settings anyway, but then you don't vape your herb at 180 as your display suggest, you go much further then that without exactly knowing where your at. If you just want to chase the big clouds go ahead and figure a point close to cumbustion, but one wonderful aspect of vaping is the ability to get exactly what you ask for in specific temp ranges of your herb and using the tubo this way disables that level of control.

hope this makes any sense to you

 

[SloJimFizz]

Yes @Leolo , I mean WPA. I ordered it in 14mm cause that is what size both of my bubblers are, so I always go for 14mm on all my vape stuff.
The whips glass part doubles as a short stem for me. A little hotter than the bent, but tolerable.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the four pack of these stems recommended in this post, which are very similar to the whips glass piece.

Ihttps://www.ddavemods.com/store/p52/Quad_(4)_Preload_Stem_Pack.htmlstems from Ddave work better with both tubo and milaana. They are designed to use the sandwich method:

 

[sickmanfraud]

in my haste to try and help some newer members of the Tubo family I forgot to shout and thank @gimmiemore and @Abysmal Vapor for their assistance in making my Dual work as well as my Evic.

I noticed above that the setting is supposed to be TCR 185 M1. I had M3 on my OG and copied it onto the dual. Can someone tell me the difference between M1 and M3 and which it should be?

Thanks

 

[horst]

I noticed above that the setting is supposed to be TCR 185 M1. I had M3 on my OG and copied it onto the dual. Can someone tell me the difference between M1 and M3 and which it should be?

Thanks

Sorry, didn't want to confuse anybody. the TCR setting can be stored in 3 different settings, from M1 to M3, so you can store specific values in each of the M slots. So as long as your TCR is at 185 you should be fine, regardless of the M number, thats just a memory position.

 

[Gray Area]

Not that deep into settings also but one thing I understand, TCR is something different then the value on the door, the value on the door is the calibrated value for the coil value on the tubo display, the one in the middle between Power and Temperature.

You have to understand that the temperature is a calculated value and not a measured value. When @funkyjunky builds a tubo he measures the temperature so that when in Mode TCR 185 M1 together with the COIL value on your door your displayed temperature equals the real temperature as close as possible.

So when you now alter these settings, regardless of changing TCR value or COIL value, you get different temps then the ones displayed on the unit. Thats why you combust at 220 setting, it is now not even close to 220 real celsius because of the changed values.

When you have the feeling that the calibrated values are to low for your feeling, you should start slowly increasing the COIL value rather then any other parameters. So when you have 230 written on your door, try 235, if that doesn't feel enough go to 240 etc...

I have to say that I didn't changed any parameters and am quite happy with the accuracy of the device at it is calibrated by @funkyjunky. Never felt the need to change things.

If you have a second vape you can test your accuracy easily by exchanging loads. Set your tubo to 180 and vape a load in cruise mode until there is no vapor left, stir, repeat until no vapor. Now put that herb in another vape, set it also to 180 and see if any vapor occurs. if yes, your tubo is really calibrated to low and you should try different coil settings. If you don't get any vapor increase to 185 and see if vapor is produced, if not your device is calibrated to hot and you should lower the coil setting if you want apropiate values.

Sure you can mess with the settings anyway, but then you don't vape your herb at 180 as your display suggest, you go much further then that without exactly knowing where your at. If you just want to chase the big clouds go ahead and figure a point close to cumbustion, but one wonderful aspect of vaping is the ability to get exactly what you ask for in specific temp ranges of your herb and using the tubo this way disables that level of control.

hope this makes any sense to you

This and put much better than the half finished post I've just withnailed

 

[BaroneBarra]

Not that deep into settings also but one thing I understand, TCR is something different then the value on the door, the value on the door is the calibrated value for the coil value on the tubo display, the one in the middle between Power and Temperature.

You have to understand that the temperature is a calculated value and not a measured value. When @funkyjunky builds a tubo he measures the temperature so that when in Mode TCR 185 M1 together with the COIL value on your door your displayed temperature equals the real temperature as close as possible.

So when you now alter these settings, regardless of changing TCR value or COIL value, you get different temps then the ones displayed on the unit. Thats why you combust at 220 setting, it is now not even close to 220 real celsius because of the changed values.

When you have the feeling that the calibrated values are to low for your feeling, you should start slowly increasing the COIL value rather then any other parameters. So when you have 230 written on your door, try 235, if that doesn't feel enough go to 240 etc...

I have to say that I didn't changed any parameters and am quite happy with the accuracy of the device at it is calibrated by @funkyjunky. Never felt the need to change things.

If you have a second vape you can test your accuracy easily by exchanging loads. Set your tubo to 180 and vape a load in cruise mode until there is no vapor left, stir, repeat until no vapor. Now put that herb in another vape, set it also to 180 and see if any vapor occurs. if yes, your tubo is really calibrated to low and you should try different coil settings. If you don't get any vapor increase to 185 and see if vapor is produced, if not your device is calibrated to hot and you should lower the coil setting if you want apropiate values.

Sure you can mess with the settings anyway, but then you don't vape your herb at 180 as your display suggest, you go much further then that without exactly knowing where your at. If you just want to chase the big clouds go ahead and figure a point close to cumbustion, but one wonderful aspect of vaping is the ability to get exactly what you ask for in specific temp ranges of your herb and using the tubo this way disables that level of control.

hope this makes any sense to you

Thank you very much for this!

I was following the instruction of the manual when changing the values:

Looking at the pictures, I was under the impression that the M1 value under TCR was indeed the coil resistance (which corresponds to the value written on the inside of the battery door - 230 in my case)...
Which is also the value that you can change (in 0.002 increments/decrements) if your Tubo runs cool/hot... no?

Tonight I shall test it further.

A somewhat correct temperature is indeed important to me, so I'm grateful for your help.
I don't have any other electronic vape to do a comparison of temps, unfortunately.

 

[horst]

Looking at the pictures, I was under the impression that the M1 value under TCR was indeed the coil resistance (which corresponds to the value written on the inside of the battery door - 230 in my case)...
Which is also the value that you can change (in 0.002 increments/decrements) if your Tubo runs cool/hot... no?

That is indeed somewhat irritating. You are right, the instructions also point you towards TCR, but the menu seems a bit confusing in this case. looking at the five screens in the middle of the manual, the second shows the editable coil resistance which correspondenses to the first screen middle setting. Here you should insert your door setting or increase/decrease to adjust. But the setting on the third screen, with the M positions is the part where you should leave the 185.

I don't know exactly what this third screen TCR setting does, but it seems to be a kind of temperature coefficient setting to adjust the displayed temps to the coil. Others may help here to clarify.

So if you want to start from scratch just put your door value under the coils TCR so that it displays in the middle of the first screen and set the TCR Set M1-M3 to 185. From here you can fine tune to your needs..

One important thing you might think your Tubo is underwhelming: Give it some time to heat up, even after the three click warm up it needs a few pulls to get the glass stem warmed up a little so the real action starts when you can feel that your stem has warmed up, not right from the button press.

good luck and report back