Discontinued The Timber Elite by Vapwood

VoidOfCourse

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... I hate 20questions .. :rant:

But here we go anyways ...

1. fav way to use watts or TC = TC Baby ! love playing with the Elite Cool/med/hot trends at different temps .

2. Load quantity = about .06 to .09.

3. Load prep = wtf is that , no thank you .

4. How many times a day = I lose count , who's asking

5. How many bowls per battery charge = I lose count , sorry . Gets me through the day .

6. Do you stir = does James Bond stir ?

7. Battery swapping = when it gets to about 25% in the screen display I either change it before the load or after/next. If leaving , usually install a fresh cell.

8. Use a condom = sometimes

9. Do you swing = sometimes . With my log mostly if I do :brow:

10. Temp surfing = sometimes

11. Watt Surfage = sometimes

12. Preheat = no , pull the trigger and go !

13. Escribe software usage = NO! I've done all I needed to on the Elite. display screen menu :rockon:

14. Onboard charging = no , I forget its there

15. Polish Job = not the Elite yet

16. Roasting tube preference = walnut , close tie between cherry and maple for second .

17. Do you share your bud = I guess I could

18. Fav wood = walnut, anything dark .

19. How often do you change (or Clean?) screen = never , clean it every full moon for shits and giggles

20. Fav thing about the Elite . Makes life Grand Baby !

Is there a roasting tube draw or something for this ? :lol:

Love you all ! :peace:
Vape on!
Lmao :rofl:
I spent some time on a small project that will be a collaboration. I've hinted about this before, but it's starting to take shape now. Lots of good things coming up.
Exciting news! :rockon:
 
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Bravesst

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20 questions, we have a winner!!!!
As it turns out, only 4 people stepped up to the 20 questions. Instead of picking from a hat, they all got the code (good for six months, single use, no retro).

Grinders
I have, have had, lots and lots of grinders. In the end they've all clogged up, got sticky, wound up being lots of work on the hands (which are already overworked). As you know, I dry my bud, but maybe my light bulb isn't hot enough. Lately, I've haven't been able to reach the dry, dry, level I like. Performance has been great, it just results in hand strain on the mechanical grinder. Off to amazon, and you have lots of choices. Cheap grinders, S&B grinders, portable electric, coffee / spice grinders, and on and on. Get's pricey with the high end weed grinders, so I went with an electric coffee / spice model that has a removable cup and is easy to clean (and only $20). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQHHMYJ/
 

beyond6strings

Just another traveller in the Cannaverse
I've been using this electric one from Amazon for the past couple of months and love it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071ZJHR5P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I can grind up a week's worth of cannabis and CBD flower in just a couple of minutes. I place the ground material in two different storage containers with Boveda packs and I'm good for a week or more.

I use a brush to clean out kief after every use-you'll get a lot with these types of grinders, and because of the way the top piece connects, I go over the connections on both pieces with a dab of coconut oil about once a week and it's smooth as silk. And so easy on the hands. You need to save yours to make vapes and I need to save mine to make music. For those of us on the east coast, weed can get quite sticky June-September. And grinding wet sticky weed is one of the worst things for someone with tendinitis in both hands.

Sounds like both made great choices. Cheers
 

Bravesst

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Greetings Elitists
Some cool grinders mentioned. I'm assuming a good grind will also do a lot for moisture removal (or ease thereof). I store at 62% (boveda packs), by dry POST long term storage. For me, the drier herb vapes more evenly, and a bit more smoothly, but I've come to realize that there are many ways to load a Bud.

Been needing to clean / change screens lately a bit more, and I'm blaming my drying light bulb for not being hot enough in my humid basement. Things in the tube are just a hair less dry. Maybe it's just the high humidity that we get on Long Island in general, especially with all the crazy rain.

Beeswax will hit the June batch tomorrow. Coil materials will continue to be prepped, and maybe even formed. Then it's time for final assembly, as the rest of the pre-assembly just waits their turn. The key to this system working well is for me to not stop building. As soon as these units (June batch) are assembled and shipped, more blanks will be created, and eventually be added to the pre-assembly inventory. Final assemblies will only happen when units sell, and this month I closed the batch out on the 20th, and began working towards final assembly and shipping of just this June batch. For now, it's a viable system. This should put a vape in the customer's hands in anywhere from one to four weeks. So it's about 20 days of adding to the pre-assembly inventory, a week of final finish and assembly, a couple of days of testing, then shipping. That's just about one month.

I hope to get my first unit assembled Monday.
 

MothChewMoth

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Greetings Elitists
Some cool grinders mentioned. I'm assuming a good grind will also do a lot for moisture removal (or ease thereof). I store at 62% (boveda packs), by dry POST long term storage. For me, the drier herb vapes more evenly, and a bit more smoothly, but I've come to realize that there are many ways to load a Bud.

Been needing to clean / change screens lately a bit more, and I'm blaming my drying light bulb for not being hot enough in my humid basement. Things in the tube are just a hair less dry. Maybe it's just the high humidity that we get on Long Island in general, especially with all the crazy rain.

Beeswax will hit the June batch tomorrow. Coil materials will continue to be prepped, and maybe even formed. Then it's time for final assembly, as the rest of the pre-assembly just waits their turn. The key to this system working well is for me to not stop building. As soon as these units (June batch) are assembled and shipped, more blanks will be created, and eventually be added to the pre-assembly inventory. Final assemblies will only happen when units sell, and this month I closed the batch out on the 20th, and began working towards final assembly and shipping of just this June batch. For now, it's a viable system. This should put a vape in the customer's hands in anywhere from one to four weeks. So it's about 20 days of adding to the pre-assembly inventory, a week of final finish and assembly, a couple of days of testing, then shipping. That's just about one month.

I hope to get my first unit assembled Monday.

Thanks for that awesome summary and estimate! I'm BEYOND exited to try this up against my other top tiers. I'm confident it's going to be among my new favorites :rockon:
 
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Good morning people...

My grinder should arrive today. I'm excited to test some finer grinding ability. I'm thinking, in general, grinding has got to make the contents of the tube more condensed, more THC / CBD's in the .08 grams or so that is loaded. Maybe even a bit heavier. My goal would be to get more out of each dose / microdose.

I'm horrible at keeping track of loads per battery. I put a fresh cell in last night, vaped all evening on it, just fired up bowl #1 and I had like 45% cell life. I should easily get two or three more outta that with a good 10% left. Rule of thumb, each load will eat up 10 to 15%. If you pull the battery at 25%, you should still get six or seven loads. If you pull at 10 or 15%, you can go as far as eight.

Up way too early this AM, but all slept out. I'll be in the shop finishing and coil forming for most of the day. It's gonna be a long, somewhat tedious, work day, but I'm all about pacing myself. I'd love to get both jobs behind me and start assembling tomorrow. That's the goal. The end of the month always has a sort of countdown feel to it, as the final steps are taken before a new batch of Elites is making people happy. This is always a good time.
 

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Good Monday Morning!

Lots to do, lots to be happy about. I literally can't wait to get these units built and shipped. I have absolutely nothing else to distract me from my task. Today is all about building. I live to build (and vape a bit).

After a brief round of coil forming...
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Sanding, finishing, and assembling will be my life for the next few days.
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Bravesst

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Long day in the shop. I worked for more hours than usual, but the coils are all done, both Elites and Classics. Not sure why it took a bit longer, maybe just a bit more tweaking at this stage, which means less later. Beeswax next.

Working a bit too much lately. I need to find a balance, and my wife and I are ready to adopt another Boston Terrier. My breeder is doing her best to get us hooked up, but the last litter was just one pup (not that uncommon for Bostons). We drove all the way to Maryland to pick up Reddy, my original Lil' Bud. We are still both broken hearted, but need to raise another little guy (or girl). Life's a bit empty without Reddy. I miss sitting on my couch, Reddy on my lap, vaping away. He was fascinated by the vapor rising, and his big brown eyes would light up when Dad sat down. - yup, I can get choked up just thinking about him.

But life goes on, and I have big plans for the Elite. As I work with this batch, the first thing that jumps out at me is the consistency. I'm very proud of that, as one of the most important wooodworking lessons that I remember forever is *consistency trumps accuracy*. In other words, the ability to do things the same EXACT way over and over is the key to the best possible build. I'm pretty much there.

These units will run through the same software uploads and testing. No reason to change anything, as function is top notch. Each unit will come with TCR value (already set) and cold ohms (set) with the same 8 modes. You just have to load it, put in a battery, and you're ready to go.
 
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Bravesst

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Good morning FC!

I love trolls (and ogres :argh:). When you look at the LB threads, you can see lots of people troll (views vs replies). There really is no better way to get an education than to read through these pages. I routinely try and update my website, but the site is nothing more than a catalog of a few products, showcased, but the real *selling* take place here. And the best way I know to sell is to be open and honest with everything I do. No secrets, no shortcuts in the build process, no inferior parts, no bullshit.

The Elite is a great idea come to life in a relatively short period of time. Handcrafted in small batches, endlessly tweaked and improved, while every aspect of the build is painstakingly controlled for the optimal vaping experience. So how do I get people to realize that an investment in an LB E is a game changer? Press and play!

What's happening with the Elite?
I have a customer who has requested the fire button be flipped to the top. I have to configure differently, swapping the 14 and 18 gauge wires. This may call for a bit of a different internal structural set up, but we'll see how it works out. I may offer it as a special option.

The disc the coil is mounted to got a hair thinner, so I had to make and adjustment. I discovered that a slightly taller coil is easier to mount. To make up for the thinner disc, I had to lengthen coil leads. Very minor change from a user standpoint, but a bonus for me.

The small vent holes for the board are being done away with due to the increased depth of the board compartment and the opening of this compartment up in the bottom cap (all units have this feature from day one). After extensive testing, the board runs really cool.

I haven't tested any narrower ID wood tubes yet, but I'm anxious to try (vs. glass lining). The glass lining makes it super easy to keep tubes spotlessly clean, but I'd be willing to sacrifice that for an even better vaping experience (if that is possible).

We've gone to another slightly different magnet set up. The plate is not getting a 3/16 x 1/10 (vs 1/8). The slight drop in strength was worth the trade off in mass. No real end user change.

I'll keep you guys posted of any future changes, but the Elite design is very locked in right now.
 

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Hot and humid in the city today. Got home and crashed, just too shot to do any quality work. Sometimes you just gotta call it. Tomorrow is another day.

I'm about to make 'em pretty with some beeswax. Then it's one assembly at a time. I always get a little stressed at this point, feeling the heat of an end of month dead line. I've been really good with this lately, working hard, but not feeling pressure. I've learned that creativity suffers under pressure, and I need to create more than anything else.

In the meantime, I'm resting, kinda baked, just being an Elite user. It's nice to be able to use your own vape, and not get caught up on evaluating what's going on. That happens a bit with the testing of a new batch, but once set up, I can vape mindlessly. A loyal customer recently pointed out, one of the greatest things about the Elite is its ability to be used right outta the box (mindless). On demand convection with no need for a 510 connection means you are getting everything you need from the get-go. No need to pair your device with a mod box, worry about settings. Load and go.

I'll get a good rest tonight, because I've got two big work days ahead. Time to build some Elites!
 

Bravesst

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Thanks all, yeah, the maple grain popped. I've got a few like that. I'll make another trip to my local *exotic hardwoods* shop to see if I can snag some more. It's what in all the Waples as well.

Assembly Day One
First I'll need to wire up some boards with screens, mock coils, and test each one. I spent a couple of hours yesterday afternoon prepping the 14 and 18 gauge silver plated copper wire. It's important that all wires are the exact size, for best performance, and uniformity. We want those boards to sing.

Upon assembly, there is some final fitting of the cover plate, bottom cap, even back plate, as it's reassembled into its final form. This gives me one last chance to look everything over. It's a nice system of checks and balances. Look for some final pics soon.
 

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The day started out weird. I wired up a board, tested it and got a blank screen. Changed the screen, tried again, black. Wired board #2, same thing. I rewired both. Same thing. Now I'm 90 minutes in, and have zero to show for it. At this point I need to know what's going on, so I keep going with new boards. The next 12 are perfect. At over $50 each, I contacted the seller and he'll gladly replace with no problem, so it was only a waste of time (which is more valuable than money). I've wired almost 50 of these, and had no other issues with the DNA boards. Like I said, weird. Good news is that I have 12 boards wired up and tested, ready to drop in to any Elite, but with all the wasted time (and frustration), I wound up getting only a couple Elites fully assembled. Was shooting for 5, tomorrow is another day. This is also why I like to have a deep stock of supplies. It seems like all I do is buy parts.

Elite Parts - I'm sure I left stuff out
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Parts is parts...
I did a pretty good job of including just about everything in the pic above, except the five pieces of machined hardwood - main body, bottom cap, back plate, cover plate, and roasting tube that form the housing that we all identify as Lil' Bud.
  1. 20 screws, nuts, washers
  2. 4 magnets
  3. 2 battery terminals
  4. 6 ring connectors
  5. 2 butt connectors
  6. 1 coil (wire mesh, wire)
  7. 1 7/8 wood disc
  8. 1 DNA 75C
  9. 1 screen holder
  10. 4 buttons
  11. 18 gauge wire
  12. 14 gauge wire
  13. solder
  14. stainless steel foil
  15. glass bead spacers
Who can tell me what critical non wood part was left out of the pic?
 

mucsusn

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A passionate wood shop guy who took the time to put this all together (with much inspiration from others, of course) and a fresh battery...
 
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