Of it's called an ego because that's what the form factor is.
What your saying now is that dabbler is now a pulse width modulation?
On the second point, I'm
guessing that it's using PWM since that's the traditional way to regulate the power. How it happens isn't so important compared to the idea that it is changed automatically in response to the temperature (not battery voltage, phase of the moon or time of day). The difference is, I think, the ability to sense the result of the heating (the temperature delivered and adjust) much as a cruse control on a car senses the actual speed and adjusts the throttle in the carburetor to compensate. If, OTOH, the car uses fuel injection so instead of adjusting the carb that's not there it tweaks the fuel injectors that does not change the point that the car uses a speed control scheme. How it works with what it has available to control the power is not as important as the idea it does or does not.
On the first point I don't agree. Again, to look at cars I'm saying that there's a 4WD car with anti spin traction control as part of it's design (Audi??) and you're saying that can't be because Toyotas only dive two wheels (after all they're both passenger cars). AFAIK you're the only guy calling the Dabbler an Ego because it looks like one, I'm sure not.
BTW, has it occurred to you that provided Iris has sufficient resolution in it's A/D converter(s) it could be simply reprogrammed to exploit this same thing?
Iris could do it too. Maybe. No hardware change at all (if the right level stuff is being used), simply a program change.....basically
what VB is claiming is happening with Dabbler. Same stuff inside, different software. Yes, I'm saying I think you could incorporate the feature using any cart that showed this big shift in resistance with temperature......like say
SR71? Of course it would actually have to be possible for you to do it.......
Form factor != internal components
Exactly so, thanks.
OF, no disrespect to you but You clearly left out a BIG part of that post. In between "Likewise" and "You" paragraphs you said this "Once 'spin' on technical terms for marketing advantage (what I call 'hype') raises it's head it's hard to get past, at least for me. No doubt about it, 'controlled temperature' and 'silica and fiber glass free' are sales advantages."
So you left that thread feeling/saying the same thing some of us are questioning here. You may have left "taking him at his word" but you clearly quipped that it was just more marketing hype.
I'm not trying to "look for trouble", contrary to your "Did you read on, or looking for trouble" quip"
and yes, I did read on, hence this post.
Actually I was trying to edit out parts that I didn't think related to your original question, which I took to be 'why did you change your mind?'. I'm not sure I really changed my mind (I'm not sure it's actually being done, only that it could be and I'll trust the guy (take him at his word) until I have reason not to). I prefer to think of it as 'backing off' on the 'how can you say that' point I'd made before?
I'll stand by the spin idea I put up there (you quoted above) but think it's a different topic than your original question? Again once the idea that 'this is all just spin' has been raised (and it was over silica fibers first remember.....),
it's hard to get past. An elephant in the parlor as the saying goes. "Controlled temperature" and "glass free" are two such terms with such potential for abuse abuse I thought.....still do in fact.
I wasn't trying to hide anything, just editing out parts that didn't relate to your question. Some seem to actually think my posts tend to be long enough without repeating stuff I said a year and a half ago....... Strange, no?
I agree with "you left that thread feeling/saying the same thing some of us are questioning here". Close enough. More over I
entered that thread saying as much. I sure don't claim to be the only guy who questions it, maybe the first, but not the only. And I still question it but am willing to give the benefit of the doubt since the fellow gives a reasonable explanation on how he makes that happen. If you say you've climbed Mt. Everest and can 'talk like a rock climber' I'll accept your saying you're one of the 3000 or so that have done it enough to not press for more details.
The reason I asked if you'd read past the post you quoted from (but didn't cite), past the 'but you personally said....' part, is because two and four posts later
the answer to your question was right there......no need to ask otherwise? It was a long way to go back to find the point, from there the answer was pretty easy to find I thought. Still do I guess?
To summarize, I openly questioned the 'temperature controlled' claim, giving my reasons (no obvious temperature sensor) since I knew that with such a sensor temperature control was possible, but not without one. The fellow pointed to a possible scheme to sense temperature I didn't consider since I didn't think he had sufficient resolution to make it work. Frankly, I still am not sure he does (or how well it works, it might regulate to say a 50 or 100 degree wide window....regulation but of questionable use). But he answered to my satisfaction my question there, 'how can you make that claim?'. Having given me a technically possible (IMO, meaning it fits my understanding and experience) answer I choose to back off until I knew more.....and I'm sure not going to call him a liar until that bridge is well crossed. Hopefully some day someone will test it out, much as I try to test claims and performance of the vapes I can (Omicron supplies using AW IMRs, Solo and Ascent temperatures leaping to mind as examples you might know?). It's in my nature to experiment when I can usefully.
Do I question more carefully statements from
makers and salesmen that might just be smoke and mirrors to suck in the innocent? Yeah, you betcha, don't you? "Profiling" perhaps, but I like to think of it in other terms. Guys standing to make a profit from statements made get a second consideration when it comes to claims of superiority over their competitors at a fundamental level as well as claims that their competitors can't possibly be doing what they claim do. I prefer to think of it as 'informed skepticism' or something like that but if 'profiling' fits your pistol better, I can live with that I guess. I'm old school, I don't think pre judging (early tentative decisions based on partial information) is the same as prejudice (refusal to accept ideas you don't already 'know' to be true).....if that makes any sense?
Thanks again for the thoughts. Regards to all.
OF
