The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

[condition]

The issue with scratches makes me wonder if they actually test new Mighty with various vaping methods before releasing it. S&B marketed the capsules and knew that many of their customers use them exclusively.

 

[canadianvapelife]

Has anyone ever tried hash on the concentrate pad?

 

[blackstone]

It's good to get different perspectives, I can understand how the bold red text could scare people off.
Could it be possible there's inconsistencies on the coating? Perhaps.
Regardless, words are one thing, here is proof clear as day.
so people can see scratching on day 1 first hand with the capsules.

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I should also note a positive with the Mighty+ is that the heating tech is better, it will heat up faster and provide slightly denser clouds. I found this improvement on the Crafty+ also. compared to OG versions.

Also there has been a new concern (warning) that I want others to try and confirm.
There has been a report that a combination of SUPER BOOST MODE + PASS THROUGH POWER causes the Mighty+ to give a ERR004 message.

It may be that this mode worked well on Crafty+ but was not properly tested by Storz n Bickel in pass through. So far 2 units have been confirmed to have this problem though more investigation is needed to confirm the cause. Can other people with Mighty+ test if when you go to super boost mode 210c and are using passthrough if you get this ERR004 message after extended use?

Sure looks rough. Hard to tell with that focus but that could be still the smudge marks that I mention like the capsule is writing or leaving deposits on the bowl wall, not actual scratches to the finish.
I have an extremely faint line mark in one small part at that height after a month of just capsules but it's not a concern. So maybe something did go wrong in your image.
This here is a poorly taken picture of my slightly grubby, bent Volcano Hybrid upper screen where it contacts ceramic coating and rotates slightly each time.
There are four areas like this on the screen and this is the second screen it happened on over 1 year.
The stainless steel wires are worn flat and have shiny surfaces where they touch the ceramic coated part and there is no wear whatsoever on the coated part.
The ceramic coating surface on the Hybrid is hard enough to eventually abrade stainless steel, is my conclusion.

 

[Cannabiker]

The ceramic coating surface on the Hybrid is hard enough to eventually abrade stainless steel

Sure, but materials with high hardness are usually also very brittle, and they can be damaged by materials with lower hardness. A diamond is harder than a hammer, but it's pretty obvious which will win a smashing contest. If the ceramic coating on the oven is very thin, it could be damaged if you drag something against it hard enough to deform the underlying surface. Since the ceramic is inflexible, it would crack under those conditions, then chip away. While it's hard to tell definitively from the photo, it looks like that's a possibility.

 

[darbarikanada]

Has anyone ever tried hash on the concentrate pad?

I've vaped bubble hash and regular hash in the mighty, but put it under the pad. regular (hard) hash needs to be cut into tiny pieces and (probably) vaped at the highest temperatures. it works great - it's really nice to be able to taste the hash.

 

[canadianvapelife]

I've vaped bubble hash and regular hash in the mighty, but put it under the pad. regular (hard) hash needs to be cut into tiny pieces and (probably) vaped at the highest temperatures. it works great - it's really nice to be able to taste the hash.

I was worried it would fall through the screen and get down into the heater and what not. This isn't an issue?

 

[Petetbay]

I was worried it would fall through the screen and get down into the heater and what not. This isn't an issue?

I use e-cig coil cotton(organic unbleached) cut to fit bowl very thin layer top and bottom keeps small particles contained though bowl sides can get stained. Works well in most vapes and I find is the best way to vape old style hash in a vapcap really keeps it clean.

 

[darbarikanada]

I was worried it would fall through the screen and get down into the heater and what not. This isn't an issue?

my mighty's 6 years old, hasn't failed yet, and I've vaped a fair amount of hash in it. I've never disassembled it, so I can't tell you what's down there.

 

[olysh pops]

Has anyone ever tried hash on the concentrate pad?

You may try this too, from bottom to top : 1/3 pad + 1 CU screen + solid hash layer + 1 CU screen + 1/3 pad - temp 210°C/410°F.

 

[MGG]

Is anyone getting ERR004 with Mighty+
In superbooster mode + pass through charging at same time?

 

[vapviking]

Is anyone getting ERR004 with Mighty+
In superbooster mode + pass through charging at same time?

You asked the same question just a few posts back. Between this and that big RED psa warning, you could easily be called an alarmist. From what I gather, your concerns are based on a small sample of anecdotes.

I don't know for sure, but I think ERR004 is an overheat warning?
Does the device shut down when the message comes up, and allow itself to be powered on after cooling a bit?
Or did you mean super boost charge mode (and not temp boost)?

 

[LesPlenty]

Google says,
The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 004. The Vaporizer is faulty. In this case, disconnect from the mains without delay and get in touch immediately with our Service Center. Do not leave the device unat- tended during operation.
And there is always the manual,

Troubleshooting - Storz & Bickel GMBH Mighty Instructions For Use Manual [Page 14]

Storz & Bickel GMBH Mighty Manual Online: Troubleshooting. Problem MIGHTY cannot be switched on. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 001. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 002. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 003. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 004. If the preceding tips...

www.manualslib.com

 

[vapviking]

Google says,
The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 004. The Vaporizer is faulty. In this case, disconnect from the mains without delay and get in touch immediately with our Service Center. Do not leave the device unat- tended during operation.
And there is always the manual,

Troubleshooting - Storz & Bickel GMBH Mighty Instructions For Use Manual [Page 14]

Storz & Bickel GMBH Mighty Manual Online: Troubleshooting. Problem MIGHTY cannot be switched on. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 001. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 002. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 003. The display of the MIGHTY shows: ERR 004. If the preceding tips...

www.manualslib.com

That would have been too easy, I would rather stumble through life with my shitty memory, apparently...

 

[MGG]

Between this and that big RED psa warning, you could easily be called an alarmist. From what I gather, your concerns are based on a small sample of anecdotes.

Lmao. Okay I'm done here. I'm not an 'alarmist'.
All the information I've shared is real and legitimate experience with the Mighty+.
Of course my concerns are based on a number of small anecdotes, this is early days for a new device, what would persuade you? a peer reviewed study?

Yes I'm aware of the googles ERR004 message, which pertains specifically to the Mighty. However there have been 2 individual Mighty+ devices that have shown a consistent issue with SUPERBOOST + PASSTHROUGH. If I was an alarmist I'd say this is definitively an issue with 'ALL UNITS' but I didn't, I tried to reach out to see if anyone else is experiencing this problem. To help people.

From this and a number of you deeply underplaying the significance of a scratch like that on day 1 on a device that specifically marketed as being more scratch resistant than the original Mighty. Seriously, I don't know what to say.

What do I have to gain from warning people and reaching out? Other than helping them make an educated choice.
Every negative i've said i've made an effort to underline multiple positives the device offers but there are serious real issues with the Mighty+ which seem to indicate that it was rushed to market. With 2 devices being able to consistently replicate the ERR004 message I doubt I will be the last person to come forwards with this information. However it is likely possible that Storz n Bickel could release a firmware update through USB-C.

No dramas or hate, but this is just not worth my time anymore.
Especially if people are going to attempt to downplay or make personal judgements as if I have some kind of agenda to stir up fear.

 

[vapviking]

Lmao. Okay I'm done here. I'm not an 'alarmist'.
All the information I've shared is real and legitimate experience with the Mighty+.
Of course my concerns are based on a number of small anecdotes, this is early days for a new device, what would persuade you? a peer reviewed study?

Yes I'm aware of the googles ERR004 message, which pertains specifically to the Mighty. However there have been 2 individual Mighty+ devices that have shown a consistent issue with SUPERBOOST + PASSTHROUGH. If I was an alarmist I'd say this is definitively an issue with 'ALL UNITS' but I didn't, I tried to reach out to see if anyone else is experiencing this problem. To help people.

From this and a number of you deeply underplaying the significance of a scratch like that on day 1 on a device that specifically marketed as being more scratch resistant than the original Mighty. Seriously, I don't know what to say.

What do I have to gain from warning people and reaching out? Other than helping them make an educated choice.
Every negative i've said i've made an effort to underline multiple positives the device offers but there are serious real issues with the Mighty+ which seem to indicate that it was rushed to market. With 2 devices being able to consistently replicate the ERR004 message I doubt I will be the last person to come forwards with this information. However it is likely possible that Storz n Bickel could release a firmware update through USB-C.

No dramas or hate, but this is just not worth my time anymore.
Especially if people are going to attempt to downplay or make personal judgements as if I have some kind of agenda to stir up fear.

Hey! I didn't mean you needed to stfu...

Sorry, I thought the all-red thing was a bit over the top.
I appreciate your input here and I'm sure others do as well, it all adds to the knowledge base.

And, you've helped me feel smug about purchasing an og earlier this year.

 

[vapviking]

@vapviking Did you (or anybody here) ever figure out if the OG Mighty is eligible for one year extra warranty on registration or not?
That might be another little benefit to the + models? Hopefully the 3 years is not their estimate on the improved housing's lifespan!

I sent an email to support this morning, with the question about 3rd year warranty on my og Mighty. (purchased 2/21, then registered on S&B site)
There's no problem with the unit, just the question about the extension of warranty.

 

[Seantagon]

finally Got my new Mighty delivered today. ive been missing the S&B experience since my 3rd Crafty died several months back. I am so happy with this, it’s the only device my wife really enjoys using with me lol. It really just pores vapor so effortlessly.

 

[RELAX]

Does the Might+ fit in the OG stands people sell/make for the Mighty? Or is anyone making stands for the Mighty+ yet?

 

[Been Vapin]

Just did a deep cleaning on the mighty+ oven, most of the the stuck stuff wiped right out with some isopropyl , used my fingernail to help too, it reminded me a cleaning a SiC nail insert. Replaced the bottom screen with fresh one, it was really nasty, lots of build up. Pretty easy to remove and insert the oven screen, no scratches from it

 

[vapviking]

@blackstone,

I sent an email to support this morning, with the question about 3rd year warranty on my og Mighty. (purchased 2/21, then registered on S&B site)
There's no problem with the unit, just the question about the extension of warranty.

And the reply,

Service (STORZ & BICKEL)

Nov 5, 2021, 23:15 GMT+1

Hello,

Thank you for your message. Unfortunately the MIGHTY does not qualify for the 3 year warranty. Our apologies.
Technical Service
STORZ & BICKEL America, Inc.
1078 60th St Suite A
Oakland, CA 94608


Hey, @Been Vapin, is that photo of the bowl the 'before' or the 'after' picture?

 

[Been Vapin]

@blackstone,

And the reply,

Service (STORZ & BICKEL)

Nov 5, 2021, 23:15 GMT+1

Hello,

Thank you for your message. Unfortunately the MIGHTY does not qualify for the 3 year warranty. Our apologies.
Technical Service
STORZ & BICKEL America, Inc.
1078 60th St Suite A
Oakland, CA 94608


Hey, @Been Vapin, is that photo of the bowl the 'before' or the 'after' picture?

after, forgot to take a before pic, it was pretty bad

just look at that bottom screen pic, encrusted

 

[LesPlenty]

Just did a deep cleaning on the mighty+ oven

That looks like an aluminium oven, I thought the Might+ has a ceramic coated oven.

 

[Been Vapin]

That looks like an aluminium oven, I thought the Might+ has a ceramic coated oven.

Visual Effect from the camera flash, it’s ceramic coated

 

[justcametomind]

Does the Might+ fit in the OG stands people sell/make for the Mighty? Or is anyone making stands for the Mighty+ yet?

It doesn’t but it stands on its own with no need for stands.

 

[blackstone]

@blackstone,

And the reply,

Service (STORZ & BICKEL)

Nov 5, 2021, 23:15 GMT+1

Hello,

Thank you for your message. Unfortunately the MIGHTY does not qualify for the 3 year warranty. Our apologies.
Technical Service
STORZ & BICKEL America, Inc.
1078 60th St Suite A
Oakland, CA 94608


Hey, @Been Vapin, is that photo of the bowl the 'before' or the 'after' picture?

That’s interesting, so an extra year only if you register and with a plus model.
Thanks very much for helping and finding out that information, because it looks like they finally got rid of that "Compare Vaporizers" table of info from their website after all these years. Maybe it got too messy with these new models, Volcano colourways, and extended warranties etc.

I said I would post a picture of my Mighty+ bowl after five weeks of capsule only use,
It looks like it was hardly used but there was quite a bit of use as I've been charging the vape and harvesting reclaim often enough! There is actually a light yellow ring mark already that you can't see here.

Trying to keep the bowl clean was one reason I switched to using capsules only. The only little thing I do sometimes is wipe around the hot bowl edge with a clean dry cotton wool pad to absorb any oils, but I still wish I did that more often. And of course wipe around the CU ridge often too and I have no screen up there.
I used to use iso wipes but I thought the iso might be helping any brown oil residue to seep deeper into grooves, so I tried this occasional hot dry wipe absorbtion method!

Here is a Crafty+ bowl of mine that has about 70 hours capsule only use, so the edge can still eventually get a slight brown ring around the 60 to 100 hour mark.

I believe some of this was due to the odd slip up where a drop of brown oil falls down from the CU and soaks into the groove, but it could be mostly from airborne droplets too I guess!

PS. Maybe it's just me but I'm noticing no timer shut down (w/ haptic notices) yet with Mighty+, like I did with all their previous portables, only a stepping back down to regular temperature after boosts.
This tells me that possibly the draw sensor is now working well and it notices each draw I take to reset the timer, or maybe they got rid of the timer function altogether due to complaints about it, and maybe having better battery life means it doesn't need a power saving timer function so much now?